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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431
    #1

    Thinking of promoting Wowgirls - how are the rebills?

    Since it's a revshare program it would be nice to know how it rebills. Anybody have numbers?
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    • Pseudonymous
      Photographer/Owner
      • Apr 2006
      • 2661
      #2
      First 5-6 days i chose to promote them... sent them 35 sales

      Of those 35, 3 have rebilled.

      I was just about to contact their support and ask what is going on

      I have a members area pass and the content looks good and the girls look good and it updates pretty frequently but probably not as much as most big multi girl sites. Looks like it updates once a day
      Last edited by Pseudonymous; 07-26-2012, 01:36 AM.
      Previous owner of SoloRevenue
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        • Mutt
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Sep 2002
          • 34431
          #3
          Originally posted by Pseudonymous
          First 5-6 days i chose to promote them... sent them 35 sales

          Of those 35, 3 have rebilled.

          I was just about to contact their support and ask what is going on

          I have a members area pass and the content looks good and the girls look good and it updates pretty frequently but probably not as much as most big multi girl sites. Looks like it updates once a day
          but how many of those 35 sales are still in their first billing period and still could rebill?
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            • lucas131
              ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
              • Aug 2004
              • 11475
              #4
              my rebills sucks there too, and i have been also contacted by email asking me how are the rebills, if its not anyone of you, it looks like more people are not so happy with rebills there

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                • Pseudonymous
                  Photographer/Owner
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2661
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Mutt
                  but how many of those 35 sales are still in their first billing period and still could rebill?
                  All. I stopped pushing them after finding those numbers absurd.

                  Those numbers just dont add up IMO. Even with the worst content, i've seen better ratios. So something rubs me the wrong way.

                  Considering the quality of their content and models, the only explanation is that this content has been used before on their other sites/networks or just non exclusive but i dont believe either of these to be true.

                  Im not sure to be honest, maybe they can fill me in.
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                  Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com

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                    • Pseudonymous
                      Photographer/Owner
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2661
                      #6
                      Originally posted by lucas131
                      my rebills sucks there too, and i have been also contacted by email asking me how are the rebills, if its not anyone of you, it looks like more people are not so happy with rebills there
                      That was me. However i only really noticed when it was brought to my attention actually. So there are others most definitely
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                        • lucas131
                          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 11475
                          #7
                          oh ok, and as i said, maybe it have something to do with this?

                          wowgirls.com
                          younglegalporn.com

                          not sure, but the content really looks very similar ...

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                            • alf6300
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 765
                              #8
                              Just looked at their join page http://wowgirls.com/join.html

                              It lets you choose between recurring and non-recurring. BUT there's no mention of any discount for recurring.

                              When you proceed to the CCBill actual form, you are just shown the option you have chosen in the prejoin (and you can't change it unless you go back to the previous page)

                              So my hunch would be: most people just choose "non recurring" in the prejoin. They are never told, in their flow, that there's a discount for recurring.

                              To me it looks like one of those tiny blunders that can cost very dearly to a business.
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                                • Pseudonymous
                                  Photographer/Owner
                                  • Apr 2006
                                  • 2661
                                  #9
                                  Oh yeah I see what youre talking about, thats very strange of them to offer both and not really mention the discount! Big mistake.

                                  Secondly, youre right, some of my sales are non recurring, about half. Still horrible rebill ratio though

                                  So now theres two flaws, a bad rebill ratio and them giving two options without the mention of a discount for the recurring option.

                                  Hopefully they address these issues and we can all make more money.
                                  Previous owner of SoloRevenue
                                  Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com

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                                    • anexsia
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2010
                                      • 5735
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Pseudonymous
                                      Oh yeah I see what youre talking about, thats very strange of them to offer both and not really mention the discount! Big mistake.

                                      Secondly, youre right, some of my sales are non recurring, about half. Still horrible rebill ratio though

                                      So now theres two flaws, a bad rebill ratio and them giving two options without the mention of a discount for the recurring option.

                                      Hopefully they address these issues and we can all make more money.
                                      Sorry to bring this off topic but I see that the Hailey Leigh page says coming August 1st...is that when it will be available to promote through Solo Revenue?

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                                        • Pseudonymous
                                          Photographer/Owner
                                          • Apr 2006
                                          • 2661
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by anexsia
                                          Sorry to bring this off topic but I see that the Hailey Leigh page says coming August 1st...is that when it will be available to promote through Solo Revenue?
                                          Whoops, thanks, i will update that, sadly its 2 weeks behind. Had something set me back a couple weeks. Only reason it will take 2 weeks, has to be approved by Visa/Mastercard still. Also thinking of switching my affiliate tools software, want to start offering flash banners.
                                          Previous owner of SoloRevenue
                                          Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com

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                                            • anexsia
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2010
                                              • 5735
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Pseudonymous
                                              Whoops, thanks, i will update that, sadly its 2 weeks behind. Had something set me back a couple weeks. Only reason it will take 2 weeks, has to be approved by Visa/Mastercard still. Also thinking of switching my affiliate tools software, want to start offering flash banners.
                                              Cool, thanks

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                                                • Roald
                                                  SecretFriends.com
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 27910
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Pseudonymous
                                                  All. I stopped pushing them after finding those numbers absurd.

                                                  Those numbers just dont add up IMO. Even with the worst content, i've seen better ratios. So something rubs me the wrong way.

                                                  Considering the quality of their content and models, the only explanation is that this content has been used before on their other sites/networks or just non exclusive but i dont believe either of these to be true.

                                                  Im not sure to be honest, maybe they can fill me in.
                                                  Correct me if im wrong but if all are still in their first billing period and can still rebill then how are the numbers off? Or am I reading this wrong?


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                                                    • Pseudonymous
                                                      Photographer/Owner
                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                      • 2661
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Roald
                                                      Correct me if im wrong but if all are still in their first billing period and can still rebill then how are the numbers off? Or am I reading this wrong?
                                                      I meant none, not 'all'

                                                      haha it's the middle of the night here
                                                      Previous owner of SoloRevenue
                                                      Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com

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                                                        • lucas131
                                                          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 11475
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                          but how many of those 35 sales are still in their first billing period and still could rebill?


                                                          lol

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                                                            • anexsia
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2010
                                                              • 5735
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by lucas131


                                                              lol
                                                              I know right, this gif is funny as hell

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                                                                • Roald
                                                                  SecretFriends.com
                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                  • 27910
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Pseudonymous
                                                                  I meant none, not 'all'

                                                                  haha it's the middle of the night here
                                                                  Lol ok


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                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 52942
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                      oh ok, and as i said, maybe it have something to do with this?

                                                                      wowgirls.com
                                                                      younglegalporn.com

                                                                      not sure, but the content really looks very similar ...
                                                                      Same tour, new content sometimes and new domain. Rinse and repeat.



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                                                                        • alf6300
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Sep 2007
                                                                          • 765
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                          Same tour, new content sometimes and new domain. Rinse and repeat.
                                                                          Personally I like the 'tour', it looks much less pornish and tourish than most stuff around. I wouldn't mind as a surfer if the tour concept is used on more than one site - as long as obviously the content is not the same.
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                                                                            • Pseudonymous
                                                                              Photographer/Owner
                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                              • 2661
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I was contacted by diesel, apparently rebills were fine and that only 8 sales were recurring!! Theres no way to go into stats and get an accurate number of which ones were recurring and which weren't so i just gave a rough estimation. turned out that not having the price difference on the page where they select recurring vs non recurring really makes a huge difference. because out of that many sales, only a handful selected recurring, for obvious reasons.

                                                                              he'll be changing that and hopefully more people select recurring

                                                                              This change should help them alot considering the length of success of a site highly depends on rebilling customers.
                                                                              Previous owner of SoloRevenue
                                                                              Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com

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                                                                                • alf6300
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Sep 2007
                                                                                  • 765
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Pseudonymous
                                                                                  I was contacted by diesel, apparently rebills were fine and that only 8 sales were recurring!! Theres no way to go into stats and get an accurate number of which ones were recurring and which weren't so i just gave a rough estimation. turned out that not having the price difference on the page where they select recurring vs non recurring really makes a huge difference. because out of that many sales, only a handful selected recurring, for obvious reasons.

                                                                                  he'll be changing that and hopefully more people select recurring

                                                                                  This change should help them alot considering the length of success of a site highly depends on rebilling customers.
                                                                                  Awesome, happy to be helpful, I'll ask them for a gift for my birthday, and you should ask for one too
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                                                                                    • lucas131
                                                                                      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                      • 11475
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by alf6300
                                                                                      Awesome, happy to be helpful, I'll ask them for a gift for my birthday, and you should ask for one too
                                                                                      i want this girl for my birthday



                                                                                      please

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                                                                                        • diesel
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 1097
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Thank you guys for bringing it up. Nothing makes my day nicer than talking about our lovely products )

                                                                                          The content of Wow Girls is exclusive and absolutely amazing. There is no any problem with rebills and we have outstanding reviews across all review sites and a lot of positive members. Just to show few from thebestporn.com

                                                                                          http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=71347
                                                                                          http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=72899
                                                                                          http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=71849
                                                                                          http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=72038

                                                                                          We have also added our popular and exclusive live shows just a week ago and it's a free add on.

                                                                                          However, there is indeed a problem with % of rec and non rec sales and I am glad this post came up, I am taking care of it right now. We were blind by success of sales during beta testing and didnt notice the shift of sales to non recurring memberships. This issue will be fixed and tested during the weekend. Thanks again!

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                                                                                            • diesel
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 1097
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                              Same tour, new content sometimes and new domain. Rinse and repeat.
                                                                                              This is entertaining. I love your avatar.

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                                                                                                • diesel
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 1097
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by alf6300
                                                                                                  Personally I like the 'tour', it looks much less pornish and tourish than most stuff around. I wouldn't mind as a surfer if the tour concept is used on more than one site - as long as obviously the content is not the same.
                                                                                                  You got it right. We also created a lot of tools and monitoring systems around this tour which gives us a lot of information how to improve it and we release new version of it every few months. What you see on WowGirls is the latest generation of tour which is a monster in terms of sales.

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                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by alf6300
                                                                                                      Personally I like the 'tour', it looks much less pornish and tourish than most stuff around. I wouldn't mind as a surfer if the tour concept is used on more than one site - as long as obviously the content is not the same.
                                                                                                      So do I. Never said anything was wrong and doing it this way might make previous members feel more confident. Might make a few suspect they have seen the content and getting the non recurring to test it. Just a theory.



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                                                                                                        • alf6300
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Sep 2007
                                                                                                          • 765
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                          i want this girl for my birthday



                                                                                                          please
                                                                                                          when is your birthday?
                                                                                                          --

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                                                                                                            • Yanks_Todd
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                                              • 2493
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Pseudonymous
                                                                                                              I was contacted by diesel, apparently rebills were fine and that only 8 sales were recurring!! Theres no way to go into stats and get an accurate number of which ones were recurring and which weren't so i just gave a rough estimation. turned out that not having the price difference on the page where they select recurring vs non recurring really makes a huge difference. because out of that many sales, only a handful selected recurring, for obvious reasons.

                                                                                                              he'll be changing that and hopefully more people select recurring

                                                                                                              This change should help them alot considering the length of success of a site highly depends on rebilling customers.
                                                                                                              Hey Dude, shoot me an email or ICQ. Love to chat
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                                                                                                                • adultmobile
                                                                                                                  No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                  • 5345
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by diesel
                                                                                                                  You got it right. We also created a lot of tools and monitoring systems around this tour which gives us a lot of information how to improve it and we release new version of it every few months. What you see on WowGirls is the latest generation of tour which is a monster in terms of sales.
                                                                                                                  wowgirls younglegalporn 18onlygirls -> very good. some old diesel stuff recycled here and there but was good stuff before anyway

                                                                                                                  Just a note beeg got 8 mins "previews":

                                                                                                                  http://beeg.com/3862777
                                                                                                                  http://beeg.com/4372084
                                                                                                                  http://beeg.com/8972165
                                                                                                                  http://beeg.com/5192148
                                                                                                                  http://beeg.com/7787061
                                                                                                                  http://beeg.com/7224874

                                                                                                                  Quite longer than the 16-20 seconds clips in wowgirls tour - but a 20 seconds clip in a tube it make no sense anyway...

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                                                                                                                    • diesel
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                      • 1097
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by adultmobile
                                                                                                                      wowgirls younglegalporn 18onlygirls -> very good. some old diesel stuff recycled here and there but was good stuff before anyway

                                                                                                                      Just a note beeg got 8 mins "previews":

                                                                                                                      http://beeg.com/3862777
                                                                                                                      http://beeg.com/4372084
                                                                                                                      http://beeg.com/8972165
                                                                                                                      http://beeg.com/5192148
                                                                                                                      http://beeg.com/7787061
                                                                                                                      http://beeg.com/7224874

                                                                                                                      Quite longer than the 16-20 seconds clips in wowgirls tour - but a 20 seconds clip in a tube it make no sense anyway...
                                                                                                                      Hey, thank you!

                                                                                                                      I am not a fan of long trailers on tours. Users come ready to join.

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                                                                                                                        • fuzebox
                                                                                                                          making it rain
                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                          • 22351
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I would never have a non-recurring billing option. Recurring memberships are our lifeblood

                                                                                                                          Even my 90 days rebill.

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                                                                                                                            • lucas131
                                                                                                                              ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 11475
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by alf6300
                                                                                                                              when is your birthday?
                                                                                                                              anytime

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