TheSquealer

Because they just can't shut the fuck up and keep their heads down.

Success for most of these people stems from the fact that they have little to no concern with the law or consequences as every action is centered around the selfish idea of "I want..", rather than asking as an intelligent person would "what might the cost be.. what are the risks". That's what narcissism is. "i want ..." with no real ability to comprehend anything (consequences, feelings/needs of others, how it would impact others etc) beyond that.

Right or wrong, trying to attack and shame the people that just turned your life inside out isn't going to end well. Poorly executed warrants, doesn't change that fact that he can eventually be charged and stand trial for crimes. Criminal copyright infringement and contributory infringement obviously do not fall under "freedom of speech" or "freedom" or "a free society". In fact, "freedom" was defined by the forefathers (Adams?) as the protection of personal property.

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BIGTYMER

I think he's getting scared.

_Richard_

a panic room? lol

blackmonsters

Comparing his struggle to the civil rights struggle is only making him look foolish and
bound to create backlash.

Especially since the rights involded in the case are not his but of the copyright owners.

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Some kids.

Lint

Nah, I'm pretty sure he is enjoying all the attention.

SilentKnight

This asshat needs to take out a loan and go buy himself a clue.

gideongallery

innovators take risk

the sheep follow and copy what has been done before and brag about how successful they were for simply implementing other peoples ideas.





And that because you totally don't understand the point of this.

The current case is botched, because of the procedural violations.

They may be able to make an arguement against him in the future, but before they go forward they will have to prove that it is not just another botched case .

He has made it harder for them to get a conviction the next time because they have to jump thru even more hoops to justify their position


1. copyright takes away property rights and replaces them with licencing rights.

2. vcr, printing press, cable television, mp3 players, etc, etc, were all called copyright infringement and were ultimately validated as perfectly legal

3. many countries don't have contributory infringement.

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DWB

"What about free speech" lol

Honestly, what a tub of shit this guy is. Best we can hope for is for him to die of a "heart attack" like Breitbart did, and the more he tries to buck the system is one step closer to that glorious day.

kane

I have a feeling if MLK saw this video he would put aside his belief in non-violence and punch Kim in the face.

SmutHammer

They should all be considered terrorists and be shot where they stand.

Gozarian

Fuck you gideon

DWB

Email his boss. The info is on the board.

TheSquealer

I think arguments like that are usually the last refuge of selfish, self serving assholes. Not everytime. But most of the time. Just like in the US where you get busted and then try to make it a Constitutional issue (free speech etc) because that's how a marginally intelligent, self absorbed, narcissistic idiot, who's clearly in the wrong and fighting a losing battle tries to make it "everyone's fight" and get everyone's attention.

Personally, when I see people trying to package and sell their personal issue as "everyone's fight", I see it as an overt admission that they are going to lose and now know it.

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FreeHugeMovies

This video has nothing to do with the charges.

Free Speech has nothing to do with stealing LOL

gideongallery

Do not post people's personal information, or attack peoples personal lives or families, stick to the issues and the bullshit. ANY WHOIS information is considered public information, it is not considered personal information. So don't bitch at us if you put your home address as your personal info on WHOIS.

False accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.

Insinuations Meant to Do Harm Any insinuations made in an attempt to do harm to a person (personal attack) or business, shall be grounds for immediate banning.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=950962

harrassing my former employer, with false accusation that i am pro piracy (rather then the truth that i am pro fair use) breaks all three rules and you know it.

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SmutHammer

So anyone who has pirated content on their website or supports piracy openly should be banned from gfy?

I'm all for it

TheSquealer

Why do you get attacked? Because no one likes you. No one agrees with you. Your message continually falls on deaf ears and you don't care but to keep droning on and on in defense of piracy to a crowd who believes their single biggest problem is piracy. You posting here at all is like being a vegetarian droning on and on about vegetarians to the National Beef Association as if anyone is ever going to care about what you are saying.

There is no possible way in hell that you are just some guy with a general interest in individual rights posting on gfy for no other apparent reason. I don't believe you are in the business and my opinion is that you MUST be getting paid to continually post on here about piracy.

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gideongallery

Again for the 139 time i am pro fair use not pro piracy


most of the shit your claiming is piracy is actually fair use.

many independent artist used mega uploads affiliate program to pay them when they used the "try it if you like donate to me" business model

dan bull made over 7k from megaupload before it got shut down doing exactly that

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SmutHammer

There is no "fair use" when you are making money off of others copywritten work.

Edit: or share without permission

gideongallery

you can ignore it

you can insult me here


you could actually post proof (rather then your interpretation of what i mean)


mega upload complied with dcma take down notices, The pointing to the files/removing only the offending pointers (url) still complied with the dmca remove access option.

As you pointed out government didn't actually have a right to go after them. (poorly executed warrants, jurisdictional problem, filing of criminal complaint problems, etc)

so your now blatantly misrepresenting me pointing out that fact as pro piracy is exactly the type of misrepresentation i am talking.

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gideongallery

vcr sold for 1k each (timeshifting)

diamond rio sold for $32 (format shifting)


both made money from the "unauthorized" use of copy written work

and both fair uses were ultimately established by the courts

If that was actually the rule neither of those things would have happened,.


the courts explicitly prove you wrong.

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DWB

Mr. Jacques, if you would have posted one more I would have had a TROLL JACKPOT!!!


Both of you nailed it. Great posts.

SmutHammer

Look up the meaning of fair use. using copywritten movies doesn't help technology evolve.

gideongallery

tell that to dan bull who was using megaupload to give away his songs for free.

he lost 7k a year because his right to distribute his content was taken away with the shut down.



if government argued that they should take away the right of all you guys to sell porn

because the fact that reality kings shot a 15 year old girl for cum fiesta proves this industry is not doing enough to screen for cp.

http://newswire.xbiz.com/view.php?id=132741



You would scream censorship too.



that content was up for more than a month according to the court filing many of the people here promoted that cp content (without knowing it)

and rk had at least 2 promo during that period.

if the rules you want for validating copyright holders permission was applied to validating cp most of gfy would be in jail right now.

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gideongallery

look up the fair use section of the copyright act

nothing in that section says fair use need to help technology evolve to be valid.

and what you just said doesn't change the fact that your allowed to make money from fair use.

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SmutHammer

All I want is for the website owners to be responsible for what is on their websites. user uploaded, dmca etc. are all bullshit.

gideongallery

and how much money did you make promoting nasty dollars/reality king during the time they had 15 year old cp on it.

your not in jail for promoting that cp, so obviously you didn't go to the police and confess demanding you get locked up.

if you have a right to argue your not guilty because of a lack of EXPLICIT knowledge

why should someone else not have the same right.

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The words of a bitch.

SmutHammer

I didn't promote any of them, I'm not an affiliate. I guess you could just find a way to argue circles on just about anything huh? oh, and affiliates link the content to the producer, so again it is in the website owners hands.

gideongallery

but in the case of cp the crime is promoting it not hosting it

taking traffic, or giving traffic would be the server action that needs to be punished.

If you took traffic from nasty dollars/reality king /any of their traffic sites during that period you profited from that kiddie porn

if you gave traffic during that period

the html link would be on YOUR site.

The affiliate link you gave them would have come from your site.

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?When crimes occur through the mail, you don?t shut the post office down,? Steve Wozniak

A statement made recently no doubt.

TheSquealer

Done and done.

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gideongallery

yup and about this case in particular

http://gizmodo.com/5921059/woz-slams...im-dotcom-case

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topnotch, standup guy

Hmmm... you never struck me as the pro piracy type.

I guess maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to notice up until now.

Oh well it's a nice day, why don't you buy a bag of peanuts and go feed some more upload monkeys.

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yet you were sympathizing with the upload monkeys and their paymasters on wjunction. "thank the assholes over on gfy", i believe you said.

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TheSquealer

I think he doesn't like me. But then again, he believes the government took advantage of the 9/11 WTC attacks to spontaneously launch a missile at the Pentagon with the intent of hiding some book keeping irregularities, so i'm ok with it.

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gideongallery

never posted wjunction

but i do support the artists like dan bull and david banner who USED sites like mega upload to get paid while using the "try it for free and if you like it donate model"

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Struggle4Bucks

What exactly are you saying? That mega upload should be kept online because 0,0001 procent of the people that upload to Mega Upload are independent artists like Dan Bull? We should forget about the other 99,9999 procent of copyright infringements? We should cry for him and his 7k? Don`t tell me to feel sorry for him LOL Why don`t you feel sorry for me and all the other producers who are getting fucked by MU... His rights to distribute his content were absolutely not taken away by the shutdown of MU... There are a lot of other places where he can distribute his content.

If I would have a coffeeshop in Amterdam and sell hash and weed... that would be perfectly fine and goverment won`t have a problem with me... If I also should start to sell coke... then they will kick my door in and shut the place down!!! In other words... yeah... bad luck for Dan Bull... but the site where he did upload his content to are criminals that had to be shut down...

And what are you saying? ... that because of the fact goverment did not shut down the porn industry after shooting and promoting that 15 year old girl, MU should also not been shut down right now?

I really hope they shut down all these filesharing bullshit sites... A whole generation allready grew up with the idea that music, movies, software, etc is free... Their parents and teachers and goverment finally should tell them: hey, didn`t someone tell you? It isn`t for free... you have to pay for it, because there were some very friendly people who d stick their noses out, invested a lot of money with no change of succes, to make a product in the hope to entertain you fucking spoiled crybabies!

If this shit goes on and on there will be less and less good and fresh produced content (movies, music, etc) for all the spoiled crybabies in the world and it will be exactly these spoiled crybabies that will be crying about it the most. If this shit can`t be stopped... then I hope their mothers cunt will the first and the last cunt they will ever see!!! They can all go fuck themselfs and suck on their mothers tits.... "Mama... can you please show me your tits? I can`t find any tits on the internet! ahh... come on.... mammie?"

DTK

ok maybe it was some other board, but you damned well know you said that.

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[QUOTE=?When crimes occur through the mail, you don?t shut the post office down,? Steve Wozniak
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There`s also an error in your footer statement...
If the post office actually is the one that is committing the crime... hell yeah! Then you simply shut
down the post office!!!!!!

AllAboutCams

This guy has got to be kidding its hardly innovation by stealing someone else work.

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I love how he portrays himself as some type of charitable guy trying to change the internet, when in the end he did everything he did for $$.

This is a guy who made tens / hundreds of millons of dollars and obviously lived high on the hog with a fleet of cars and license plates like "Hacker" and "Mafia." Now when he's in trouble and it suits him, he makes it out like he is a modern day civil rights movement.

What a fucking clown. Hey Kim Dotcom - you know why your site was incredibly popular, and it wasn't because people wanted to share legitimate content they owned.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE

It's an analogy to the internet thick one.

Struggle4Bucks

It`s: trying to justify criminal behavoir with Babylonian confusion of tongues...

What he is trying to say is:

When crimes occur through Uploading Individuals , you don?t shut Mega Upload down

gideongallery

70% of all files on mega upload were downloaded 1 time or less. That 70% using it exclusively as backup.

so your pulling numbers out of you ass again


you have a method to deal with your losses it called the DMCA takedown/ or if you have proof they broke the safe harbor provision a lawsuit.


mega upload is the equavalent to the radio for artist like dan bull, not only does it pay him a small amount but people who like his stuff will donate as well so your cutting him off at the knees by shutting them down


really tell you what give me one example that does exactly the same thing as megaupload




your talking about completely rewriting the laws to MAKE mega upload guilty

if you want the laws to be re-written that way then hell yes the entire porn industry should be wiped out

If the first amendment rights of artist like Dan Bull can be taken away because you don't like the current laws (DMCA safe harbor provision)

that the religious right should have the same right to wipe you out to protect the children.

The reasonable position that you can't be held responsible for the actions of others (fake id of the model vs uploading actions of the infringer) should apply to EVERYONE or NO ONE

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gideongallery

btw i love how you use an example where the store itself commits the crime to argue for sanctions against an entity that does not upload infringing content themselves.

an actually analog would be closing down a weed shop because a customer sells coke in the bathroom.

Which btw i think is bullshit argument too

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Others photos? How fucking retarded are you? He "remembered" who I was when I posted MY pics of being on a shoot with him. He was lying about everything from the start which is how it got to that point.

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Struggle4Bucks

- you are pulling numbers out of your ass yourself... and what do you mean: "again"? Please read my
other posts and tell me where did you find me pulling numbers out of my ass before...

-DMCA the law that facilitates crime! It would be better when Filesharing sites were forced to check uploaded content before actually posting it...

-mega upload is the equavalent to getting robbed for producers! If people like Dan Bull are getting hurt by the shut down... that`s too bad for them... they really should be complaining at MU itself... not at the FBI...

- Am I talking about "exactly the same thing"? Please tell me... where did I do that! Please don`t try to put words in my mouth that I didn`t say only to try to strengthen your weak story! Let him post on youtube or where ever the fuck... I don`t care where... I don`t run his business... I`m not his manager!
If you love him so much why don`t you tell him what to do...

- your talking about completely rewriting the laws to MAKE mega upload guilty Yes... let`s fill all holes in law and make mega upload very guilty!

if you want the laws to be re-written that way then hell yes the entire porn industry should be wiped out Complete bullshit! Based on nothing...

If the first amendment rights of artist like Dan Bull can be taken away because you don't like the current laws (DMCA safe harbor provision) It`s not a first amandment law that Dan Bull has the right to upload content to Mega Upload. If Mega Upload decided to stop their business because they wanted to do something else, then the first amendment would stop them doing that only because Dan Bull wants to upload his shit to MegaUpoad?

that the religious right should have the same right to wipe you out to protect the children.
Why should the religious right wipe me out to protect the children...????Like I do anything wrong to children? I`m an ADULT producer! Are you accusing me of something I don`t know? Please inform me!

The reasonable position that you can't be held responsible for the actions of others (fake id of the model vs uploading actions of the infringer) should apply to EVERYONE or NO ONE[/QUOTE]You are talking like this shit happens on a daily basis and that all producers are confronted with these issues. It`s very rare and I don`t know other cases. So if you state that the whole porn industry will be shutdown because fake id``s are popping up on a daily basis at all producers... then you are not taking yourself serious! On the other hand... Mega Upload knows exactly that copyrighted materials are uploaded to the site every day on a very large scale... so the "reasonable position" simply does not aplly on that situation!