America should ban Guns!
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Grats, 11 posts and you are already going on ignore. It's clear you are one of those retards who are even more retarded than the average retard here. I'm talking Paul Markham, Johnny Clips level of retardism.
Goodbye
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Hey dutch boy.. Guns laws in Mexico.. How is that working out? Guess the cartels are done now.
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LOL might as well Ban Humans....Comment
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Ever wonder why you talk to Americans all day instead of people who live in the
frigid cave you call home?
Ultimately the internet was built with guns.
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Given that most arguments used in this thread are of a utilitarian nature, I'll take the time to explain the deontological position.
Gandhi, as a lawyer, understood the concept of selfownership. This is the idea that every human being owns his own body. To have a property right in something means that you have the exclusive authority to determine how that resource is used. That means you have the right to use that resource and it also means you have the right to determine who else can or cannot use it. To have a property right means you have the right to enforce that property right. If that weren't the case, the law of the jungle where the strong can force their will on the weak would apply.
Example: a woman can refuse to have sex with a man because she owns her own body. She has the exclusive authority to determine how that resource, in this case her body, is used. If the man tries to rape her, she has the right to defend herself. She has the right to use violence to defend herself.
Gandhi understood that denying people the right to bear arms or in other words denying people the right to use their own property to enforce their property rights was essentially the same as denying people had the right to selfownership.Last edited by u-Bob; 07-21-2012, 07:33 AM.Comment
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Your reply tells me that you don't. If you understood it, you would not find it retarded.Most Europeans do. Actually many Europeans know more about American history than Americans. Not sure where you get the idea that we don't understand the gun culture.
All we are saying that it's completely retarded. Then again most people don't really care about retarded Americans. We just laugh at them
So you are uninformed, arrogant, and you flip out about it at every opportunity.
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One short of a troll jackpot. Damn.
Gun laws don't work. The crooks can always get them. It's the people that are the problem. Take away guns from the population, criminals still have them. Take away every gun on earth and people will just stab and beat each other to death. I hate to say it, but humans are still a very immature life form, and all of the violence in our media is not helping matters.
That said, I wonder what the murder rate is in Bhutan?Comment
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Ok, make guns illegal. Now what?
* No criminals turn theirs in.
* A small percentage of law abiding citizens turn theirs in.
* A very large percentage of law abiding citizens become criminals over night when they don't turn theirs in. Do you go door to door searching? That will end well.
America is a violence based country, movies, video games, history ... full of people on depressants and other intoxicants. And the amount of wack jobs will rise as the economy tanks. As the media makes celebrities of these idiots expect to see more looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
There are more guns in the US than citizens and they are here to stay. Pack you own or learn to duck real quick.
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who said anything about social status? you were comparing countries.
Buy all the guns you want, personally I don't give a fuck, just find it amusing when suddenly comparing favorably to the likes of Zimbabwe, Mexico or the Philippines is a validation of the US's policies.Comment
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I'm a lot more concerned that someone texting or talking on their cell phone while driving will kill me than I am about getting shot. And you should be too. Let's outlaw them first. And smoking. And drinking. And fast food. And sugar. And ............
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probably close to zero - only happy people there
http://www.grossnationalhappiness.com/articles/
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Haven't read all the posts but just want to say something quickly to the Europeans. When you say 'Americans this' or 'Americans that', please note that much of NYC feels the same about middle America as you guys do so don't lump us in with them. I'm not asking that you write out 'Americans except for those who live in NYC yada yada' every time you say something about Americans. So long as you think it, that's fine. Oh, and guns are illegal here and our mayor heads up a national anti-gun campaign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayors_...t_Illegal_Guns

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Exactly my point.probably close to zero - only happy people there
http://www.grossnationalhappiness.com/articles/
someday i gotta visit
Much of America is on anti-depressants, obese, poisoned, stressed, stuck in dead in jobs, and are more or less unhappy cattle. I'm not surprised at all when someone snaps and kills people. I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more often.Comment
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Gun owners can enjoy guns cause guns can maintain peace in many ways and they might like the gun cause it is nice to have. It is a symbol, and you can shoot empty bottles
It are the idiots who are not having a grip on themselves that should be without gun. But how to filter this?Comment
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This is exactly the line of thought the U.S. was founded on. Every man is his own man, and he has exclusive rights to self ownership. Hence, why we have the 2nd Amendment. People outside this country just don't understand it because their countries weren't founded in the same way.Given that most arguments used in this thread are of a utilitarian nature, I'll take the time to explain the deontological position.
Gandhi, as a lawyer, understood the concept of selfownership. This is the idea that every human being owns his own body. To have a property right in something means that you have the exclusive authority to determine how that resource is used. That means you have the right to use that resource and it also means you have the right to determine who else can or cannot use it. To have a property right means you have the right to enforce that property right. If that weren't the case, the law of the jungle where the strong can force their will on the weak would apply.
Example: a woman can refuse to have sex with a man because she owns her own body. She has the exclusive authority to determine how that resource, in this case her body, is used. If the man tries to rape her, she has the right to defend herself. She has the right to use violence to defend herself.
Gandhi understood that denying people the right to bear arms or in other words denying people the right to use their own property to enforce their property rights was essentially the same as denying people had the right to selfownership.
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this is mildly amusing for us "Europeans"Haven't read all the posts but just want to say something quickly to the Europeans. When you say 'Americans this' or 'Americans that', please note that much of NYC feels the same about middle America as you guys do so don't lump us in with them. I'm not asking that you write out 'Americans except for those who live in NYC yada yada' every time you say something about Americans. So long as you think it, that's fine. Oh, and guns are illegal here and our mayor heads up a national anti-gun campaign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayors_...t_Illegal_Guns
at least America is one country, we're used to being lumped together with 50 other countries and nationalities.Comment
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Shy of a ban on assault rifles, which may have reduced the number of shots fired in the theater, it is unlikely any laws would have prevented this.
He bought all of his guns and ammo legally, he didn't have a criminal record, he wasn't considered mentally unstable before this incident, etc.
You can't protect society against every lunatic. People are unstable, and no one is a crazy murderer, until they are a crazy murderer.
What if instead of using a gun he waited until a crowd of people assembled outside the theater, and then mowed them all down with a vehicle instead... do you ban vehicles?
Crazy people are crazy. You can't create laws that prevent or protect us from random insanity.Last edited by BFT3K; 07-21-2012, 09:31 AM.Comment
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LOL,Ah yes, gun ranges. Second only to Trappist Monasteries for peace and tranquillity.
Mom kills son, then self at shooting range
Missouri Couple Found Dead in Alleged Shooting Range Murder-Suicide
Man found dead at shooting range
Florida man commits suicide at gun range, wife found dead at home
Man found shot in the head at shooting range
Wow you think this is the same? NO If you can not see the difference, just well never mind.Comment
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Very good post, but just so you know the word assault has nothing to do with anything. It is still semi automatic. I can click off just as many rounds with a hand gun and a special extended mag of 30 to 40 rounds. Same with shotguns and so on.Shy of a ban on assault rifles, which may have reduced the number of shots fired in the theater, it is unlikely any laws would have prevented this.
He bought all of his guns and ammo legally, he didn't have a criminal record, he wasn't considered mentally unfit, etc.
You can't protect society against every lunatic. People are unstable, and no one is a crazy murderer, until they are a crazy murderer.
What if instead of using a gun he waited until a crowd of people assembled outside the theater and mowed them all down with a vehicle instead... do you ban vehicles?
Crazy people are crazy. You can't create laws that prevent or protect us from random insanity.Comment
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What kind of idiot wants to punish all the people that own guns legally because of a psycho that used his illegally?
"There's no such thing as a good gun. There's no such thing as a bad gun. A gun in the hands of a bad man is a very dangerous thing. A gun in the hands of a good person is no danger to anyone except the bad guys."
-Charlton Heston
And for you idiots that would put down Charlton Heston, fuck off, he marched with MLKCarbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity”
- Sigmund FreudCarbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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And for all you posters that chime in from other countries against the US guns laws. I'm sorry your government doesn't trust you with guns!Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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You are comparing the US to Mexico?Originally posted by JohnnyClipsMexico has strict gun laws- how's that working out?

As previously pointed out, the US is wealthier and more populous. Stop making sense.WARNING: Stay Away From Marlboroack aka aka Brandon Ackerman
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Ok, when i say Americans i mean American gun nutsHaven't read all the posts but just want to say something quickly to the Europeans. When you say 'Americans this' or 'Americans that', please note that much of NYC feels the same about middle America as you guys do so don't lump us in with them. I'm not asking that you write out 'Americans except for those who live in NYC yada yada' every time you say something about Americans. So long as you think it, that's fine. Oh, and guns are illegal here and our mayor heads up a national anti-gun campaign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayors_...t_Illegal_Guns
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Anti-Depressants - Yes. Primarily Upper East Side females. Good to know for when you're in the mood for that occasional Klonopin.
Obese - Not in Manhattan. Except for the tourists.
Poisoned - I don't what this means but I'll just go ahead and say probably yes. What kind of poison?
Stressed - Yes, but generally the good type of stress that fuels ambition.
Stuck In Dead End Jobs - Sure, but the qualified are not without option. It's no different than Paris, London, etc.
Just be thankful that you're not from Central America, South America, or Spain in which case you would be 'Mexican'! lol That's like referring to all Europeans as 'Pollocks'.
Totally unrelated.
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What you don't understand is that America would still be part of the British empire
being taxed without representation as a 3rd world colony if American citizens didn't
have guns to rise up and overthrow the British.
America was founded with guns, we can't go back to some shit that never existed.
You have always been stripped of your individual power in Europe where you were ruled by kings based on their blood line.
You are conditioned to be subservient weaklings.
Hitler would have ran you people over if it were not for Russia and America.
But you fail to see how America became powerful enough to save you.
You remained under the power of your overlords yet you can't figure out why.


If it were not for Russia and America? You Americans joined about 3 years into the battle! Only because the Germans were up and down your water ways blowing up your ships did you decide to join in fully.Comment
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You don't have as many black there as we do here. Your very fortunate in that regard.Comment
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No valid philosophical argument?
"HURR DURR THINK OF THE CHILDRENS!"
and never mind the fact that you can't actually find the number of people that are killed by police each year...
http://www.lvrj.com/news/deadly-forc...134256308.html
So yes, lets all disarm and submit, becasue that will make a better future for our economic slaves... er children.Last edited by - Jesus Christ -; 07-21-2012, 03:26 PM.
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Damn that's a lot of retarded bullshit you just said, you do know that legal gun owners aren't action movie stars, right? The guy threw tear gas, had a vest and there were tons of people running for their lives and it was dark. You think they all could have shot him? You live in a fantasy world.That's been tried and this is a perfect example of the result.
There were about 250 people in the theatre. 2.7% of Colorado residents are licensed to carry, so there were about 7 people licensed and trained who could have put a stop to the attack, if not for the fact that Colorado banned guns in movie theatres. As he walked up the aisle, he turned his back on seven law abiding citizens who had to leave their pistols in their cars, so a half a dozen of the deaths are a direct result of the ban.
The psycho stopped to RELOAD. As he did, seven licensed, trained citizens watched in horror, their pistols out in there cars because of the theatre ban. If you supported bans, their blood is on your hands.
Colorado banned guns in movie theatres and schools. They then had mass shootings in ... movie theatres and schools.
There has never, in the history of the world, been a mass shooting at a gun range, where everybody is able to protect themselves and those around them.ICQ 635641271 [email protected]Comment
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Government is the problem, not the solution.
People are idiots if they think the government is capable of "saving" them from anything.
Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.Comment
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He also has an IQ of 186 which is Top 3 in the world. Allegedly.Damn that's a lot of retarded bullshit you just said, you do know that legal gun owners aren't action movie stars, right? The guy threw tear gas, had a vest and there were tons of people running for their lives and it was dark. You think they all could have shot him? You live in a fantasy world.

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I'm going to be straight honest with you.Originally posted by XYZTrafficAgree or disagree?
Also I am sick of those few Americans that keep saying they are entitled to own a gun, this is 2012 not 1939!
You arent American, you dont live here, you arent running shit here, and we dont really give a fuck about your opinion on anything.
And thats being nice about it.
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This is 2012 not 1939?Originally posted by XYZTrafficAgree or disagree?
Also I am sick of those few Americans that keep saying they are entitled to own a gun, this is 2012 not 1939!
History always repeats itself you fool, there is always a possibility of tyranny overtaking this great nation, and the 2nd Amendment was put there specifically to give the American people a fighting chance against something like that.
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)
"The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 [June 8, 1789])
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States" (Noah Webster in 'An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution')
"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee)
"...to disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380)Comment
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Pearl Harbor
Do those words mean anything to you?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor
Originally posted by wikiThe attack came as a profound shock to the American people and led directly to the American entry into World War II in both the Pacific and European theaters. The following day (December 8), the United States declared war on Japan. Domestic support for isolationism, which had been strong,[14] disappeared. Clandestine support of Britain (for example the Neutrality Patrol) was replaced by active alliance. Subsequent operations by the U.S. prompted Germany and Italy to declare war on the U.S. on December 11, which was reciprocated by the U.S. the same day.Comment



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