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OldJeff · 07-20-2012, 02:12 PM

But wanted to drop this thought out there for conversation.

What sells better, the best product, or the best marketing approach ?

Scott McD · 07-20-2012, 02:26 PM

Should be product, but most times it's how you sell it...

NaughtyRob · 07-20-2012, 02:27 PM

Gotta be the product but in some cases the product sucks and people have amazing marketing.

ShoeBox · 07-20-2012, 02:31 PM

The Approach for sure

kazymjir · 07-20-2012, 02:34 PM

Convicting people to buy is a key.
With a good marketing you can make more money on shit product than on great product with shit marketing.

grumpy · 07-20-2012, 03:38 PM

marketing, marketing and marketing and sometimes some luck.

brassmonkey · 07-20-2012, 03:43 PM

if a product is good it will sell itself. word of mouth is the best

MaDalton · 07-20-2012, 03:56 PM

this thread is worthless without Paul ;)

Mutt · 07-20-2012, 04:06 PM

both are equal, a great marketing approach can sell almost anything and a great product will become successful without a great marketing approach - i can't think of a truly great product that has failed. the best is having both - a great product and a great marketing approach, which was Steve Jobs' genius.

grumpy · 07-20-2012, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

both are equal, a great marketing approach can sell almost anything and a great product will become successful without a great marketing approach - i can't think of a truly great product that has failed. the best is having both - a great product and a great marketing approach, which was Steve Jobs' genius.

different products, different markets, different strategies

RR / TheHun quality, quality, marketing

NIKE / Apple quality, marketing, marketing

food/ soap marketing, marketing, marketing

Spunky · 07-20-2012, 10:14 PM

Great product,huge advertising budget..lots of luck
What was for dinner?

ottopottomouse · 07-21-2012, 02:31 AM

With bad marketing nobody would ever know the best product existed. Good marketing can sell the most shitty stuff imaginable.

OldJeff · 07-21-2012, 02:45 AM

Spunky : Dinner was Parpadel (sp) with Filet Mignon

I think Marketing wins hands down.

Microsoft has never produced the best software products, ever.

Apple Lives on marketing that is is cool to have their products, and only losers do not.

Budweiser sells skunk piss by the millions of gallons in a world where there are sooooooooo many better products.

NIKE - functionally no better than almost any other brand - ALL marketing hype, Air Jordans, Lebron here is 100 million, will you wear my shoes ?

Even more so than most other business we are in marketing, site one has hot girls with big tits sucking a dick, so does site two to 10 million. Everything being sold is available for free, it is just a matter of convincing them it is something they cannot get for free.

scottybuzz · 07-21-2012, 03:09 AM

what about google search engine? no marketing at all.

OldJeff · 07-21-2012, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

what about google search engine? no marketing at all.

From the share holders report

2011 - 12.1% of revenue spent on Sales and MARKETING total revenue 37.9 billion - That is 4.6 Billion dollars spent Marketing themselves.

ottopottomouse · 07-21-2012, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

what about google search engine? no marketing at all.

There's been newspaper adverts here and billboards for google that I can remember seeing in London.

alf6300 · 07-21-2012, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

i can't think of a truly great product that has failed.

1...2...3.... BetaMax!

Relentless · 07-21-2012, 06:33 AM

Marketing for initial sales. Product quality for recurring business and growth.

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