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Pay your fucking bills or STFU; pretty simple.
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That's American freedom.
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$836 dollars, damn there must have not been to many bidders.
I'm sympathetic for the elderly who live on a fixed income. If some gov aid/social worker would have taken some time to get involved, they could have found a way to help her out |
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Am I right in thinking that you hated this guy before any of this? i.e. this isn't what you'd do to any random neighbor |
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Fast forward in life and you're 80 years old. You're alone. You keep up on your bills but somehow you made a mistake OR you simply didn't have enough money to pay your SEWAGE bill, due to whatever reason, and you lost your house of 49 years over it. 40 years of being responsible, 40 eyars of doimng everything right, then one slip of $400 causes you to lose everything. Sorry man, that is just not right. And it can happen to anyone, at any time. There should be restrictions to what can be done in situations like this. It's not like she didn't pay her mortgage payment for several months or a year. She didn't pay her sewer bill. |
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You basically NEVER own your home and property. The govt. can always take it from you for not paying property taxes. So if you are an elderly person living on a fixed income and can't pay your property tax...doesn't matter if you paid off your mortgage 20 years ago and have lived in "your" home all your life. The govt. is going to TAKE it. :( |
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I didn't know the renter until after he had moved in and was running a business from the garage. The new renter is nice. Works from home but has zero impact on the community, and I never hear a peep from him. He's just a bit messy. Quote:
I have a business license, am not breaking any zoning laws, and I have zero impact on the community by working at home. The prior renter was completely different. At 7am they opened up the garage door and ran it like a commercial business - turned on the radio, had six to eight employees show up, filling up my street with their cars, they had breakfast together, woke us up every morning, and then blocked up the street while they hitched up trailers to small pick up trucks and loaded up up with gear. I never complained about any of this, even though my landscaper could never park his truck and trailer in front of my house, and also that at least once or twice a week I was blocked in and unable to leave my house because of their trucks being loaded. Everyone else on the street was furious about this, being as they are the first house on the street and you must pass his house to get in or out. The new neighbor works from home, makes a trip down to customs once a week in his big truck to pick up his product, which he then sells online through his website. He's a bit messy, but renters always are. I never hear a peep out of him. I'm pissed at the homeowner because I like my house and take a small amount of pride in my yard. I used to walk out and it looked nice - trees and bushes. Now I walk outside my house and I see gravel and weeds and wooden pallets and his truck. I used to like my front yard. Now it's ugly. And what pisses me off the most is that this guy was there for less than a year. This is my "forever home", and for the next twenty years I'll be looking at his electric meter instead of bushes and trees. |
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Can anyone guess how many bankers responsible for recent finical crisis lost their homes?
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Provision should be made for elerly people on a fixed income who are in danger of losing their homes over a city/county/state bill IMHO. Such as pay $5 a month.
I mean hell, foodstamp/EBT benefits are $200 a month on a very low income. So to say we'll just take your house when you clearly can't make one relatively small payment is overly harsh. That's assuming there's no more backstory which there probably is. Also, I don't see why people can't see Rochards very legitimate gripe. Just imagine your neighbor parking with his tire on the property line and stepping out onto your yard when he leaves his truck. Now imagine that he's torn out YOUR landscaping and lied on his work permit about what he's going to do. Shit, it's a totally legit complaint! |
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Maybe they did this with ALL of those examples too, but it doesn't mention it if so. |
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It's made to seem like they got a bill, didn't pay it, and got kicked out.
I'm sure there's more backstory there. They pretty much always want the money more than they want to take on a property. |
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A $500 sewer bill is probably a year, quite possibly more depending on where she lives. We have a year right there. Then we have liens that need to be applied, that takes time. Then we have all of the other legal crap that would have needed to take place, that takes more time. Then we have the auction, that takes more time. |
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The reason we have property tax is to pay for schools. Since the people that have kids can't be expected, for some reason, to pay for their own offsprings education property owners are stuck with the bill.
I pay over $1,000 a month to educate the children of others. Also this isn't a hidden tax. Anyone purchasing real estate knows there is a yearly tax on it. Not paying would make those that do pay have to cover their shortage. How is that fair? . |
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Basically I'm just trying to say that these places WANT their money, they don't actively seek to kick old people from their homes over $400. The old lady probably didn't know what the heck was going on or who can guess. As far as my utility and phone, what I said is totally accurate but obviously they're specific to those companies and my own state. So I don't think we've disagreed on anything so far. |
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That is like losing your home because you are late on your internet bill, even if you are a few months behind. Not paying a utility bill should not lead to the loss of your home. What happens when you don't pay other utilities? They turn them off. They don't take your home. Well, I guess they do now. Sorry, we know you are old and can't make ends meet right now due to inflation or whatever reason you want to give us that your government legitimately caused, but you're three months late on your phone bill, so we're taking your home. Today it's $400 behind on a sewer bill. Maybe when you're 80 years old it will be $40 behind on your electric bill. Maybe by the time your son is 80, they will just imprison people for such crimes. This shit is a slippery slope. |
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It doesn't work like that. If you fail to pay your bill, the service gets disconnected. Keep in mind that they don't disconnect you until your three or four months later. Then they move on to the next step, which is collections. Then - and at this point it's been nearly a year since the first late notice - they move on to legal filings, and sue you in court. That's another six month process. At this point the original $400 now includes interest, late fees, additional costs for collection attempts, and now attorney fees. In the mean time you have your local city government, which provides us with sewage. In my case it's sewage, garbage, and water - All for $80 a month. My local city government is going broke, laying off police officers, firemen, closing down fire stations and police offices, and slashed the medical benefits of the very people who provide me with my sewage, water, and garbage. But in your world it's not important for this person not to pay for their service and then cost the local city government even more expenses... And then you bitch about how the city is providing less. |
maybe cities should set up a work program so some can work off some of their city bills. I'm always seeing local stories of people complaining that the city is allowing lots to become overgrown and filled with trash
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Beyond all that, to actually agree with someone losing a home over a $400 bill is horrible and makes you the dick you've already made yourself out to be in this thread. :321GFY |
At a time when 1 in 7 Americans is receiving food stamps the idea that someone can lose their home over $400. is kind of absurd. There are way to many organizations, church charities, etc to allow this to happen. The old lady must have been ignoring a shit load of communications asking for a resolution of the problem.
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I think you guys are getting sidetracked from the original post.
Yes, millions of people game the system. That's what happens when you have a govt. handout (or any kind of handout)...people will take full advantage of it. But my feeling is that when this country was founded there were certain ideals. One of them was a man's right to live his life unencumbered by the govt. Of course the govt. has slowly over time written laws to change that. Hell, they even ammended the constitution in 1913 (the sixteenth ammendment) to give themselves the right to tax us on our income!!! NEVER owning your own land and property (because of property tax) is one of those things that to me is outrageous My belief is that if Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were somehow brought to the present in some time machine...they would start hanging politicians from the nearest tree. |
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