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  • RazorSharpe
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2001
    • 2238

    #61
    Originally posted by notjoe
    Don't feel bad. She wanted to charge me $1/minute for the pleasure of trying to explain my project to her
    At least you managed to get a quote of a $1/minute. I didn't even get that far!!
    Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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    • lucas131
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      • Aug 2004
      • 11475

      #62
      and this is how people who have talent ended at mcdonalds, cause they have shit in their blocked brains. but anna is not the first and not the last one i met i bet

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      • MaDalton
        I am Amazing Content!
        • Feb 2004
        • 39861

        #63
        Originally posted by Voodoo
        That depends. Development & Design work is not like buying a cheeseburger. When you hire a developer, this is a temporary partnership to have someone else build YOUR ideas into reality, more often than not, because it's something that you don't have the skills necessary to do yourself, or simply don't have the time. Treating that person like you are "King" would be a mistake.

        That would be like hiring an architect for your house, then treating them like a taxi driver. Probably not a good idea, and definitely an unprofessional attitude.

        "when the job and the results are not done correctly"

        I have to ask... Are you providing detailed requirements up front, or are you pushing an waterfall / scope-creep project on someone, then expecting them to be psychic? Once they deliver the bound-to-be-wrong project, you get to wave your "King Stick" at them and tell them how they messed up. Good one.

        i can only speak about myself - and i usually prepare stuff for my programmer very well. And he understands the way i prepare it and usually builds it that way. But I am the one who pays and if he forgets something or fails to test the code before he puts it live and screws something up, i have the right to be unhappy.

        Like my clients have the right to be unhappy when we screw something up they paid for. then it's my obligation to fix things instead of argueing or getting cocky.

        Feel free to ask any of my clients if they're happy with my service, i would dare to say you will get a very positive feedback.

        And the same attitude that i have towards my clients who pay me, i have towards the people I pay. Nothing more and nothing less.
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        • alias
          aliasx
          • Apr 2001
          • 19010

          #64
          Another GW success story.
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          • RazorSharpe
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2001
            • 2238

            #65
            Originally posted by MaDalton
            i can only speak about myself - and i usually prepare stuff for my programmer very well. And he understands the way i prepare it and usually builds it that way. But I am the one who pays and if he forgets something or fails to test the code before he puts it live and screws something up, i have the right to be unhappy.

            Like my clients have the right to be unhappy when we screw something up they paid for. then it's my obligation to fix things instead of argueing or getting cocky.

            Feel free to ask any of my clients if they're happy with my service, i would dare to say you will get a very positive feedback.

            And the same attitude that i have towards my clients who pay me, i have towards the people I pay. Nothing more and nothing less.
            I can vouch for being a happy customer of yours

            I do get what some people are trying to say. That respect goes both ways and that both parties in a transaction need to be liable for the conduct. I also agree that just because I am paying for something, does not give me any right to be a total and utter cock to the person who is selling.

            At no point in my conversation with this lady did I say anything to insult her. After she replied to me, these are the emails that followed:

            Code:
            Hi Anna,
            
            As a customer who is looking for a designer, I think it is my prerogative to give you an idea of what I like and dislike so YOU as the designer can get a better idea of what I am looking for.
            
            I find it highly insulting that you would come back to me with a reply like this.  You're punishing me because I happen to like the colours on the site of one of your competitors?  Don't you think that is a little petty?
            Her reply:
            Code:
            It is also my prerogative who i work for. Your second example link contains keywords that make me shudder....
            
            And i wasnt being petty. If you like the work of another designer then it seems reasonable to hire them and not someone else.
            At this stage, I'd written her off and replied:
            Code:
            I realise it is also your prerogative to decline work but your reply to me was plain unprofessional. The domain name you have a problem with is a site from a respected sponsor deiselaction which is the only reason I sent it to you.  I am not in the habit of sending illegal links to people.
            
            Please don't bother replying to this email as I am no longer interested in anything you have to say.
            She had to get the last word in; her reply:

            Code:
            Ditto
            And before anyone asks, all these emails were traded BEFORE I posted about this on here.

            I find it unimaginable that a person would conduct themselves like this with prospective buyers.
            Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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            • Freaky_Akula
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2005
              • 3670

              #66
              She is nuts. Ignore her.

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              • ShoeBox
                So Fucking Banned
                • May 2012
                • 2056

                #67
                Yo Razor read this article http://paffg.com/blog/ask-a-graphic-...gimme-website/ , then think to yourself and laugh

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                • CaptainHowdy
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 94725

                  #68
                  She is nuts, I love her.

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                  • RebelR
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 1998

                    #69
                    I find that most.. (not all) creative types, Artists and Programmers, aren't much good at the people side of business. It just goes with the territory and takes a certain type of person to do the job. That having been said, what G-W replied would have most people who don't own their own business fired. She can do whatever she wants since it is her business, but she should expect some backlash for it, and should perhaps hire someone who is good at being a mediator between her and the client.
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                    • lazycash
                      Troll Patrol
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 15214

                      #70
                      Anna and Alienq should team up and become a design superpower, Amp can handle their public relations.
                      "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                      Its crazy..."

                      VenusBlogger

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                      • BaldBishop
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 2115

                        #71
                        She clearly is her own worst enemy.

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                        • rocky1234
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 273

                          #72
                          Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                          I never said she didn't have a right to handle it that way. I am questioning WHY handle it that way? I don't know anything about her issue with Zuzana or anyone else; I am a customer looking to get work done. If you don't want to work with me, why not tell me so politely? Why give me attitude when I was kind enough to offer you my business?

                          So no, on second thoughts, I don't think she has any fucking right to treat her potential customers that way. That's just wrong!
                          I'm with you 100% on this. You're the one with the money and you don't need to be dissed. Spend your money where you get treated with the proper respect and gratitude.

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                          • RazorSharpe
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 2238

                            #73
                            Originally posted by ShoeBox
                            Yo Razor read this article http://paffg.com/blog/ask-a-graphic-...gimme-website/ , then think to yourself and laugh
                            Tell us about your design experience and what you offer to clients

                            The most satisfying ?design experience? for both parties can be achieved when I know exactly what the client needs/is expecting and the client knows exactly what information I need to make the best of their content and to make the site sell. I don?t claim to be the expert in every niche, so every design process starts with a lot of questions! I often ask the client to give me keywords (such as grungy, sleek, fresh) ? a quick and efficient way to give me an impression about the image in the clients head. I also appreciate screenshots/links to existing websites with a specific style/elements/details they?ve seen and liked
                            If that article is for real, then I'm really confused -
                            Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                            • RazorSharpe
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 2238

                              #74
                              Originally posted by lazycash
                              Anna and Alienq should team up and become a design superpower, Amp can handle their public relations.
                              LOL - Now THAT would be an epic design firm!!!
                              Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                              • jimmycooper
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2010
                                • 4016

                                #75
                                Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                LOL - Now THAT would be an epic design firm!!!
                                In all seriousness, if you really want to do something unique, one option is to find a mainstream designer who has a style that you really like. Then try to pair him/her with an adult designer who has experience in making the type of site you want.

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