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  • 2012
    So Fucking What
    • Jul 2006
    • 17189

    #16
    my pussy hurts
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    • xNetworx
      So Fucking What
      • Jan 2004
      • 14445

      #17
      Very unprofessional but not surprising

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      • jimmycooper
        Confirmed User
        • May 2010
        • 4016

        #18
        Originally posted by RazorSharpe
        Ayla, I've been on GFY since 2001 and have just over 1100 posts, I'm hardly someone looking to start any drama. This email though just rubbed me the wrong way! Total disrespect for a potential customer!

        I just can't begin to think why someone would want to come across this way?
        Insecurity. Plain and simple.

        With that being said, and note that I've only hired designers for mainstream projects, it seems the nutty ones do tend to do the best work. But only a genuine nutty, not a forced nutty. Not too contrived. This one is contrived.

        I also can even appreciate it when a designer has a confidence level bordering on delusional. But only provided they have the portfolio to at least somewhat back it up. This one doesn't come close.

        Attitude is not problem to deal with whatsoever. Cunts, on the other hand, can be a bit of hassle. Even those of which are contrived.
        Last edited by jimmycooper; 07-11-2012, 12:52 PM.

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        • Ayla_SquareTurtle
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2005
          • 3550

          #19
          Originally posted by RazorSharpe
          Ayla, I've been on GFY since 2001 and have just over 1100 posts, I'm hardly someone looking to start any drama. This email though just rubbed me the wrong way! Total disrespect for a potential customer!

          I just can't begin to think why someone would want to come across this way?
          Not sure how you took my post, but to clarify, I was only referring to the fact that this board was covered with posts about this designer just weeks ago, and, "here we go" again. Please do carry on.
          gone. long gone.

          aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

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          • Naughty
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2001
            • 6487

            #20
            I knew my time would come, i've been quiet for years about her;-)

            Few years back we needed a new logo, so we spoke with some people. We gave her a chance, here's what happened:

            - She drew a draft, we did not like it. We asked for changes after the FIRST draft, she asked for more money, obviously we did not agree and chose to not take her work and let her keep the 50%.

            We did thousands of banners and other designs for many many big clients here, we always went for 100% satisfaction, or take our losses. That is what a draft is for, right?

            She went mad, calling us names and threathen us. After that she followed me for a short while here, replying in each thread we were cheaters and did not pay, whgereas I was under the impression we were very kind to let her keep 50% for a draft.

            I knew she was bad news, but since we're not here a lot I thought she might be the 'new generation' so i kept quiet. Now i see i was right about her, i hope she does not get any more jobs through GFY, if you're wise, you stay away.

            We then hired from the more established bunch, which obviously went fine.

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            • Deej
              I make pixels work
              • Jun 2005
              • 24386

              #21
              Originally posted by RazorSharpe
              I never said she didn't have a right to handle it that way. I am questioning WHY handle it that way? I don't know anything about her issue with Zuzana or anyone else; I am a customer looking to get work done. If you don't want to work with me, why not tell me so politely? Why give me attitude when I was kind enough to offer you my business?

              So no, on second thoughts, I don't think she has any fucking right to treat her potential customers that way. That's just wrong!
              dude. im not sticking up for what she said or did. and yes treating people like that is a bad thing. its poor ethics. but, her doing that has given you a bad taste... what could be any more fitting for that reaction? none.

              so... yes she has a right to treat you like that and equally you have the right to not use her service and you also have the right to post about it here, letting others see how you were treated.

              Why am I the only one that can see black and white around here? not gray.

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              • RazorSharpe
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2001
                • 2238

                #22
                Originally posted by baddog
                Most likely she is skittish about dealing with anyone from GFY; or she has more work than she knows what to do with. Another possibility is pricing. Is Zuzana significantly cheaper?
                I honestly have no idea what Zuzana charges, not do I know what Anna charges. Obviously price will play some part in my decision process but it won't play the ONLY part.
                Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                • RazorSharpe
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 2238

                  #23
                  Originally posted by papill0n
                  why would you even consider her ?

                  as you can see from her reaction she is a stuck up little bitch with a horrible attitude.


                  i wouldnt work with that slag is she was the last designer online
                  I saw the threads mate, even laughed about it with someone on icq. However, business is business and I like to form my own opinions of people and had never interacted with her before. As it turns out, I won't be interacting with her ever again!
                  Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                  • ZeroHero
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 15336

                    #24
                    this days ppl like you should send a message on [email protected]

                    cheers

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                    • papill0n
                      Unregistered Abuser
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 15547

                      #25
                      Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                      I saw the threads mate, even laughed about it with someone on icq. However, business is business and I like to form my own opinions of people and had never interacted with her before. As it turns out, I won't be interacting with her ever again!
                      and that is fair enough too. i also like to form opinions based on my own personal experience wherever possible

                      its good you were able to establish this before any money changed hands

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                      • RazorSharpe
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 2238

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle
                        Not sure how you took my post, but to clarify, I was only referring to the fact that this board was covered with posts about this designer just weeks ago, and, "here we go" again. Please do carry on.
                        You're right Ayla, I did take it the wrong way, I apologise. Friends?

                        Originally posted by Deej
                        dude. im not sticking up for what she said or did. and yes treating people like that is a bad thing. its poor ethics. but, her doing that has given you a bad taste... what could be any more fitting for that reaction? none.

                        so... yes she has a right to treat you like that and equally you have the right to not use her service and you also have the right to post about it here, letting others see how you were treated.

                        Why am I the only one that can see black and white around here? not gray.
                        Deej, honestly, I don't know you except for seeing you post on here, and from what I've seen you seem like a decent guy. I do have to ask though; why do you think she has a right to treat me or ANY other potential client with blatant disrespect straight off the bat? If this is what people think is "ok", then it's no wonder the world is going so drastically wrong.

                        INSPITE of everything I have read about her on the boards over the last month or so, I went to her offering her my business, because no matter what her issues were or are with other people, I thought they would be far removed from any business dealings she had with me since I was never involved in any of that drama.

                        I'm sorry, but you can see this as black and white is you like, but to me and anyone else who is being REAL, it is blatant disrespect for a client. I honestly can't believe she replied like that and have never had anyone reply like that in all the years I have been in business.
                        Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                        • Sly
                          Let's do some business!
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 31375

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ed Hammer
                          If anyone you are paying gives you the slightest attitude, fire them. It's that simple.

                          If they have an attitude before you hire them, move on to the next person.
                          If you follow that rule with creative people, you are going to be paying for a lot of garbage. :-)

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                          • RazorSharpe
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 2238

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Rebel D
                            if you need a designer i know the best around
                            Dev, how you doing mate? Hitting you up on ICQ now.
                            Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                            • donkevlar
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 4325

                              #29
                              No designs for you. Nexxxtttt!!!!
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                              • Deej
                                I make pixels work
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 24386

                                #30
                                Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                You're right Ayla, I did take it the wrong way, I apologise. Friends?



                                Deej, honestly, I don't know you except for seeing you post on here, and from what I've seen you seem like a decent guy. I do have to ask though; why do you think she has a right to treat me or ANY other potential client with blatant disrespect straight off the bat? If this is what people think is "ok", then it's no wonder the world is going so drastically wrong.

                                INSPITE of everything I have read about her on the boards over the last month or so, I went to her offering her my business, because no matter what her issues were or are with other people, I thought they would be far removed from any business dealings she had with me since I was never involved in any of that drama.

                                I'm sorry, but you can see this as black and white is you like, but to me and anyone else who is being REAL, it is blatant disrespect for a client. I honestly can't believe she replied like that and have never had anyone reply like that in all the years I have been in business.
                                and I agree with you 100%...

                                If she wants to ruin her integrity and reputation by replying like that and running off more potential business... then by all means she can do that.

                                I get it, youre offended by the response. You did what you had to. Present it to your colleagues to see.

                                I was more or less just pointing out her flaw and her distaste for her competition. I am in no way sticking up for her response. Simply saying she can crash and burn all she wants. no skin off your teeth... right?

                                Im on your side bro

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