Get Your Content Digitally Fingerprinted for FREE!

[kristin]

We recently launched DMCA Force and part of our overall goal with this system is to get as much content digitally fingerprinted while getting the advertiser dollars flowing back to the Copyright holders.

Right now we are offering to create digital fingerprints for FREE!

Why would this be good for an exclusive content producer and what happens when you fingerprint correctly?

1) Your existing content on the largest tubes is removed. (Manwin entities, xvideos, YouJizz, etc. Don't forget that aggragator sites pull from these large tubes, not much fun to aggregate only three minute vids. )

2) Future uploads on those tubes are prevented from going live - seamlessly!

3) On the tube sites that participate in Vobile's mediawise, your videos are reduced to three minutes and advertising is sold within the video in which you are sent a check for each month.

Examples - note in the listing it says PVLocker, this is just for our products. It would be your brand, your chosen URL, etc. if you decide to fingerprint.

136 & increasing Acid Rain videos found AND truncated on xVideos,
487+ videos on Xhamster from fingerprints for PinkVisual, Smash Pictures, Silver Sinema and Acid Rain
and lastly 538 infringements saved on Slutload.

Okay, now for the doubters ...

Pink Visual knows that it's not fair that we pay for exclusive content and then have to pay to monitor it. Unfortunately this is the Internet world we live in today and the only thing we can do is try and clean it up, together as an industry.

Yes, we know our titles are still on some tube sites since there is a minority of content that has not been fingerprinted. You can see from the examples above that there is a large success rate.

Due to litigation, some tubes are legally bound to either remove or truncate and monetize and the tube can choose which method to take.

Tubes Participating:
Complete Removal - Legally Bound: Pornhub, Extreme Tube, KeezMovies, Spankwire, Tube8, YouPorn, Pornyo, Stileproject, Pornhost, Boysfood, Pornrabbit, Badjojo, Freeporn, Freeviewmovies

Truncate & Monetizing - Legally Bound: Slutload

Truncate & Monetizing - XVideos, XnXX, TNAFlix, Empflix, XHamster, Madthumbs, YouJizz, Jizzonline, Movieguys, Onlyjizz, Jizzbo, Hardsextube, and more ...

How awesome would it be to go to a tube and have all three minute clips? So take the next step in protecting your content and hit either myself or Allison up and we'll get you rolling.

[sandman!]

nice solution you have here

[DamianJ]

Great move gingerbot!

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

FREE is good (as long as I make money off it)...

Creative approach to the problem!



ADG

[grumpy]

great solution only if the tubes will cooperate

[Allison]

Originally Posted by grumpy

great solution only if the tubes will cooperate

There's no "only if". From Kristin's original post see below. It's only getting the content owners to actually send an email and we do all the legwork to get their content fingerprinted.

"Due to litigation, some tubes are legally bound to either remove or truncate and monetize and the tube can choose which method to take.

Tubes Participating:
Complete Removal - Legally Bound: Pornhub, Extreme Tube, KeezMovies, Spankwire, Tube8, YouPorn, Pornyo, Stileproject, Pornhost, Boysfood, Pornrabbit, Badjojo, Freeporn, Freeviewmovies

Truncate & Monetizing - Legally Bound: Slutload

Truncate & Monetizing - XVideos, XnXX, TNAFlix, Empflix, XHamster, Madthumbs, YouJizz, Jizzonline, Movieguys, Onlyjizz, Jizzbo, Hardsextube, and more ..."

[Mutt]

it looks like many of the biggest tubes are co-operating with them.

what if there are some tubes we want to have videos which are longer than 3 minutes?

for me tubes are only my enemy because of the traffic they suck up from other sources converting surfers who have paid for porn before into freeloaders. so i hope Brazzers, RK, Bangbros, NaughtyAmerica etc get with the program and use whatever tools available to fight piracy. It's my belief NaughtyAmerica is pro-piracy, not saying they are pirates themselves or support pirates - just that they seem to be satisfied that they can make money from the current situation so do little to stop it.

file sharing sites and the forums and blogs who supply them are my enemy. what's in DMCA Force to battle the file sharing pirates?

[AVN Roy]

Looks like a nice approach to battle piracy and monetize your content off the tubes.

[Allison]

Originally Posted by Mutt

it looks like many of the biggest tubes are co-operating with them.

what if there are some tubes we want to have videos which are longer than 3 minutes?

file sharing sites and the forums and blogs who supply them are my enemy. what's in DMCA Force to battle the file sharing pirates?

If content owners license to a tube or go through their sponsored program where they are registering for a channel or whatever, they can upload stuff longer than 3 minutes and not have it caught by the filter. Also, we set up the rules, so if a studio wants the rule to be cut down to 4 minutes, we could accommodate that.

DMCA Force, also spiders the piracy sites, sends takedowns, and sends search removal requests. Beyond that, some file hosts like Depositfiles.com and FileServe.com also use digital fingerprint filtering and our fingerprints we create can be applied there as well, but there is a small one time fee for that specific set up which goes to the technical provider. With the right pressure, I anticipate most of the file hosts will also be using filtering.

Piracy has to be fought at multiple angles to be effective and another angle is of course pressure and continuing to increase the pressure on all the parties who play a role (hosts, advertisers, payment procesors, registrars, etc) as well as ensuring copyright holders's opinions are represented through comments and letters on laws related to piracy and as well as making it easier for companies to report activities to the authorities. And of course for those wanting to litigate, we are making that process easier and less expensive by providing certain services that can reduce costs and provide information.

Anyhow, that's the whole sch-peal, but let's just start with the easiest thing, getting more content fingerprinted!!! (Feel free to contact about the rest)

[L-Pink]

sweet

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[miss_bellabellini]

I'm very interested. Sent you an email Kristin

[raymor]

Is there an API or open standard for others to crate watermarks compatible with your system? For example if a CMS or Throttlebox wanted to integrate.

[xenigo]

"Due to litigation, some tubes are legally bound..."

Can you elaborate on this litigation? I don't know why litigation would require some to remove and some to cut down the length of the content... Aren't content owners the only ones who dictate the licensing terms?

[19teenporn]

Fucking awesome. Best of luck with the project!

[Allison]

Originally Posted by xenigo

"Due to litigation, some tubes are legally bound..."

Can you elaborate on this litigation? I don't know why litigation would require some to remove and some to cut down the length of the content... Aren't content owners the only ones who dictate the licensing terms?

Litigation occurred between PinkVisual and various tubes. As a portion of the settlement agreements, the tubes agreed to use digital fingerprint filtering as a way to help prevent infringement on user generated content. They had the right to decide which program (truncate or remove).

Despite the fact that this was litigation only between PinkVisual and another party, all of those tubes agreed to apply the filtering on any fingerprints in the database, which means all other content owners. Content owners can decide to go beyond the 3 minutes.

The truncate program was negotiated by the FSC as a way to make filtering technology more affordable since it typically costs tens of thousands of dollars a month. As you can see from the results of both increased legal pressure, and making the technology more accessible, more tubes have volunteered to participate and have successfully been using the technology for several months.

So given current realities, the choices for a content owner are:
1) Do nothing, let the content stay up and keep going up, maybe send some DMCA's
2) Participate in fingerprinting, get content removed or at a minimum truncated to 3 minutes seamlessly at the moment of upload and on all existing content that's on the tubes. Generate some advertising revenue off truncated videos.
3) Litigate and make their own agreements or establish case law.


This technology has been around and effective for a while. The adult content owners are significantly behind on their implementation of this technology while it has been a standard for the major mainstream studios for quite a while.

[Allison]

Originally Posted by raymor

Is there an API or open standard for others to crate watermarks compatible with your system? For example if a CMS or Throttlebox wanted to integrate.

To clarify, it's not watermarks, it's fingerprints. A fingerprint of the video is a small file separate from the video itself and not put back into the video. The small fingerprint file is like an actual fingerprint, following the visual and audio waves of a video and mapping them out and accounting for "tricks" like people who attempt to reverse videos.

This technology is Vobile Inc's technology and we have created custom integrations for each content owner that wants fingerprints based on Vobile's API. If a CMS wanted to integrate it so it would automatically happen, that can be done, and we'd be happy to help if necessary or otherwise just put the CMS directly in touch with Vobile.

What we're doing is bridging the technical gap between content owner and Vobile where the content owner does not have to perform any of the technical processes to create the fingerprints which seems to have been an obstacle from my discussions with many of them.

Feel free to hit me up if you have a CMS in mind and want to work with us or get a point of contact at Vobile.

[Mutt]

very impressive

[raymor]

Originally Posted by Allison

To clarify, it's not watermarks, it's fingerprints. A fingerprint of the video is a small file separate from the video itself and not put back into the video. The small fingerprint file is like an actual fingerprint, following the visual and audio waves of a video and mapping them out and accounting for "tricks" like people who attempt to reverse videos.

This technology is Vobile Inc's technology and we have created custom integrations for each content owner that wants fingerprints based on Vobile's API. If a CMS wanted to integrate it so it would automatically happen, that can be done, and we'd be happy to help if necessary or otherwise just put the CMS directly in touch with Vobile.

What we're doing is bridging the technical gap between content owner and Vobile where the content owner does not have to perform any of the technical processes to create the fingerprints which seems to have been an obstacle from my discussions with many of them.

Feel free to hit me up if you have a CMS in mind and want to work with us or get a point of contact at Vobile.

Very interesting. I've read through your site and related sites and it looks like a good system. Content owners can be paid by several tube sites and I'm sure more will be added. We'll definitely want to do some integration in the future, possibly with Throttlebox, which stops site ripping, or Piratebox when that's ready. I just have to remember your name or URL six months from now when it's time to do that. ;)

[DWB]

Sounds promising. A few questions...

1) You said it is currently free. Everyone loves free. But will it always be free? If not, when will it turn to a paid system, and what will the rates be?

2) How does this differ from the fingerprinting system FSC, yourself and Manwin worked on before? Or is this just that company evolved or renamed?

3) Is the FSC or Manwin involved in DMCA Force in ANY manner?


Great name BTW.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Allison

Despite the fact that this was litigation only between PinkVisual and another party, all of those tubes agreed to apply the filtering on any fingerprints in the database, which means all other content owners. Content owners can decide to go beyond the 3 minutes.

How does that not violate safe harbor for them? That is saying they, Manwin, will delete select videos based on a technology and a law suit that says they must.

[DWB]

Forgot one...

4) If someone is using the tubes for traffic and has specially made clips for it, how do we not delete those? We would want the full scenes, should they show up there, to be deleted or truncated, but not the clips we actually submit.

Thanks.

[ChrisYAZ]

This really is the best option out there for any tube site owners who want to work in harmony with sponsors and content owners. The guys at Vobile are always available when you need any help and are really proactive on making sure that the Fingerprinting is working correctly.

As kristin already mentioned, we completely remove any content detected by Vobile Mediawise, so please submit your videos to our content program - http://addyourcontent.com - to monetize the traffic

[His Infernal Majesty]

This is a great concept! Like Mutt, I don't personally have much of an issue with tubes, but every bit helps.

I love the design of the site, too!

[k0nr4d]

If your system has some kind of API, we can look into integrating it into mechbunny as a togglable function.

[just a punk]

Very interesting solution.

[SZNY]

congrats this sound promising

[TheSwed]

and what happens when the big tubes start to see a big drop in traffic to all tube sites that don't use your system.
Do you really believe they will accept that?

[kristin]

Originally Posted by DWB

Sounds promising. A few questions...

1) You said it is currently free. Everyone loves free. But will it always be free? If not, when will it turn to a paid system, and what will the rates be?

The digital fingerprinting service will be free, once the monetization portion begins (after everything is fingerprinted, put into Vobile, rules set - ie: if MILF send to this MILF URL), the content owner receives 30%, Vobile receives 35%, DMCA Force, 5%.

2) How does this differ from the fingerprinting system FSC, yourself and Manwin worked on before? Or is this just that company evolved or renamed?

This technology is Vobile, not ours, and we have created custom integrations for each content owner that wants fingerprints. Alli said it well, "What we're doing is bridging the technical gap between content owner and Vobile where the content owner does not have to perform any of the technical processes to create the fingerprints which seems to have been an obstacle from my discussions with many of them."

3) Is the FSC or Manwin involved in DMCA Force in ANY manner?

How does that not violate safe harbor for them? That is saying they, Manwin, will delete select videos based on a technology and a law suit that says they must.

I will leave this one to Allison.

[kristin]

3) Is the FSC or Manwin involved in DMCA Force in ANY manner?

Not sure why my answer didn't post - FSC is involved, see answer to #2. Manwin, nada except they are participants in the Vobile program.

[Nathan]

Great idea Kristin & Allison! I am sure it will help to get more People up on Vobile.

For some reason many also never understood that FSC's APAP is free, but you made it very clear with dmcaforce do that should help getting more people to use it!

There literally is no reason now for content owners not to implement vobile

[MichaelP]

Nice stuff Kristin, I'll forward this to Jason our Content director

[TurboAngel]

That sounds great girls!

[Allison]

Originally Posted by DWB

Sounds promising. A few questions...

How does that not violate safe harbor for them? That is saying they, Manwin, will delete select videos based on a technology and a law suit that says they must.

DWB, first, I'm not an attorney, which is why I can provide my opinion and answer here not as legal advice.

The answer is because this technology actually helps them comply with DMCA. Under DMCA, one of the prongs a "User Generated Site" must meet is to:

"Accommodate and not interfere with standard technical measures that identify and protect rights of copyright owners."

In the mainstream world, Youtube, Dailymotion, and even live broadcasters like justin.tv have integrated this technology as a reasonable method to protect rights of copyright owners. Once a few do it, it actually becomes standard. How can one tube say it's not reasonable while 10 others use it? This case is even stronger in the adult industry since so many of the tubes are using it, it could be argued the ones who are not using it don't qualify for DMCA protection, but that argument would have to occur in court.

Again, I'm not an attorney, so if you're a UGC site owner or anyone else looking for specific advice, hit up your attorney.

[kristin]

Originally Posted by DWB

Forgot one...

4) If someone is using the tubes for traffic and has specially made clips for it, how do we not delete those? We would want the full scenes, should they show up there, to be deleted or truncated, but not the clips we actually submit.

Thanks.

If you want to do full length we suggest using the content partner programs some tubes have setup. That way you get your advertisements around your video.

However, let's say some surfer pulls your video off of Pornhub's sponsored station and uploads it so another Vobile participating tube, the filter will catch it on that other tube and truncate it or remove it.

[Tom_PM]

Where's the like button? Where should I put my thumbs up? (oop, 'scuse me)

It sounds like a good thing.

[Nautilus]

For "Truncate & Monetizing" option, what advertising revenues are getting split between the parties involved? Are we talking about ALL ads appearing at a page with a truncated clip, or is it only paysite memebrship sales from one advertising link under the clip?

[selena]

That sounds like a good thing for sure. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

[Firehorse]

Good stuff! I hope it's a widespread success!

[Klen]

Just wanted to ask what the fuck is vobile fingerprinting,i suppose this thread gives answer.

[seeandsee]

How do you participate in vobile mediawise ?

[kristin]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

How do you participate in vobile mediawise ?

Start here: http://fscapap.com/index.html

[kristin]

Originally Posted by Nautilus

For "Truncate & Monetizing" option, what advertising revenues are getting split between the parties involved? Are we talking about ALL ads appearing at a page with a truncated clip, or is it only paysite memebrship sales from one advertising link under the clip?

It is only the paysite membership sales. We have been testing some different methods of advertising and selling that advertising from the video and have seen positive results.

[garce]

The only content I own is the hairy piece of flesh between my testicles and my anus. Can you fingerprint that for me?

I'm just curious.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Eva Wyrwall is not a prostitute

[AaronM]

I'd like to nominate this as the Business Thread of the Year.

[LeRoy]

Is this still going?

emails sent

[DWB]

Thanks for answering my questions. I lost track of this thread until it was just bumped again.

[Screwed Up]

Anyone else using this?
Bump

[LeRoy]

Is Fapdu on your list?

If not it should be. This guy is pure scum

http://fapdu.com/caught-cheating-karina-white