Paxum: Dealing with file lockers ?

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  • peterk
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2007
    • 3529

    #61
    no no no yes you can
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    • lucas131
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      • Aug 2004
      • 11475

      #62
      hm filefap is not filelocker it is a tube excuse me i was wrong like an asshole

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      • AdultKing
        Raise Your Weapon
        • Jun 2003
        • 15601

        #63
        The Payment flow through to Paxum is still working on FileFap.com.

        I don't understand how this can occur if the account is terminated. With every other payment or e-wallet system you would get an error message stating that the recipient cannot receive funds.

        Hopefully Paxum can shed light on this, if I use my own Paxum account to go and pay for a membership on FileFap.com I can get as far as confirming the payment.

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        • AdultKing
          Raise Your Weapon
          • Jun 2003
          • 15601

          #64
          Originally posted by lucas131
          hm filefap is not filelocker it is a tube excuse me i was wrong like an asshole
          Actually it's both a tube and a file locker:

          http://filefap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=273

          http://filefap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=310

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          • Screwed Up
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2002
            • 1120

            #65
            Originally posted by Nautilus
            Wow isn't that wonderful. Now I can proceed with my game plan:

            1. Start beastialitycpsharing.com website.
            2. Process through some unverified Paxum account.
            3. After 3 months and 1 million dollar collected in payments...
            4. Close beastialitycpsharing.com website and remove it from the net.
            5. Verify Paxum account.
            6. Collect.
            7. If they don't give me the money, sue. They'll lose because I already removed beastialitycpsharing.com website from the net and there's no evidence to prove my funds are illegal.
            That nicely sums it up for people who don't want to read the whole thread.
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            • Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE
              Barterer
              • Aug 2004
              • 4864

              #66
              Originally posted by AVN Theo
              Dont post them here, report them to asacp.org please
              Fair enough

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              • AdultKing
                Raise Your Weapon
                • Jun 2003
                • 15601

                #67
                Paxum has replied to us and informed us that the issue of restricted accounts allowing payment flow to occur is a bug and they are working on fixing it immediately so that it cannot be exploited in the future.

                On that note I am satisfied that Paxum have acted properly with regard to this.

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                • AdultKing
                  Raise Your Weapon
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 15601

                  #68
                  On the matter of FileFap.com several people have brought to our attention that there is potentially illegal content on the site.

                  DO NOT report such material to us, the correct place to report such material is ASACP, NCMEC or the FBI in the case of the United States. Outside the United States please report such material to your local policing agency.

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                  • RuthB
                    Let's Get Paxumized!
                    • May 2005
                    • 7248

                    #69
                    Originally posted by See Cig
                    so a non verified account is bulletproof?
                    sweet to know.
                    No, it is absolutely not.

                    Originally posted by lucas131
                    nobody received funds, but people were able to use premium of filefap, right? so now you just collected money and will pay nobody? longer collecting more money for you? are you serious? you said you do not deal with filelockers, so why you now say that you cannot control content on the sites? it is filelocker, shut it down, how they can still process vip? are you really trying to steal all the money? wow, unfuckingbelievable
                    hey lucas, no funds were received, and no transactions were completed for this account. No money has been used at all.

                    I said about controlling content on other sites in relation to our Pay Now button that is currently on display on that site. Sorry for any confusion.

                    We are not processing for them in any way, we have identified a bug in our system that is causing this error and we have our tech team working on a fix.

                    Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                    "We cannot start an in-depth investigation into every single client at the point of signup"
                    yes you can!!
                    Duke
                    We perform due diligence on every single client who signs up. We do have a large volume of accounts signing up each day, and if we were to take the time to do an in-depth investigation into every single client, then our regular 24-72-hour turnaround for account verification would most likely increase to at least a week if not longer.

                    For practical purposes we have a standard due diligence procedure in place that every single client must pass, and if during that due diligence process we notice anything unusual, we will then take a closer look at that account.

                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                    The Payment flow through to Paxum is still working on FileFap.com.

                    I don't understand how this can occur if the account is terminated. With every other payment or e-wallet system you would get an error message stating that the recipient cannot receive funds.

                    Hopefully Paxum can shed light on this, if I use my own Paxum account to go and pay for a membership on FileFap.com I can get as far as confirming the payment.
                    Thanks for pointing this out. Our tech team are investigating since this appears to be a bug in our system, and they will be providing a fix as soon as possible.

                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                    Due to the similarities between tube sites and file lockers we do perform a detailed analysis of any site accused of being a file locker before we take any action.

                    Originally posted by Screwed Up
                    That nicely sums it up for people who don't want to read the whole thread.
                    Actually it doesn't. Unverified accounts do not go unnoticed in our system. If we see any activity in an unverified account then we will look into it to ensure everything is in compliance with our TOS. We will not tolerate abuse of our system, and so in your example above, during stages 2 and 3 we would notice the activity and investigate. As a result of that investigation the account would be closed and any incoming funds to the account would be reversed to the original senders of those transactions.

                    Unverified accounts can receive money, yes, but that doesn't mean we aren't watching.
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                    • BareBacked
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 3685

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Nautilus
                      Wow isn't that wonderful. Now I can proceed with my game plan:

                      1. Start beastialitycpsharing.com website.
                      2. Process through some unverified Paxum account.
                      3. After 3 months and 1 million dollar collected in payments...
                      4. Close beastialitycpsharing.com website and remove it from the net.
                      5. Verify Paxum account.
                      6. Collect.
                      7. If they don't give me the money, sue. They'll lose because I already removed beastialitycpsharing.com website from the net and there's no evidence to prove my funds are illegal.
                      Why not just move the paxum to a verified account every day and with draw from there?
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                      • kazbalah
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1215

                        #71
                        Hey adultking i think your site is down mate, i am guessing a dd0s attack? I am sure you are not popular with the script kiddies
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                        • AdultKing
                          Raise Your Weapon
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 15601

                          #72
                          Originally posted by kazbalah
                          Hey adultking i think your site is down mate, i am guessing a dd0s attack? I am sure you are not popular with the script kiddies
                          Thanks for that, we're back up now.

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                          • alcstrategy
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2012
                            • 124

                            #73
                            Originally posted by RuthB
                            hey lucas, no funds were received, and no transactions were completed for this account. No money has been used at all.
                            What kind of privacy policy do you guys have?

                            Regardless of whether this account is a suspected file locker or serving illegal content or whatever the case may be, how can you be giving this information in the open? This is the second time you commented on someones account to a public forum. Is this type of information not covered by your privacy policy? If not:

                            Can you tell me how many transactions the OP has completed within the past 3 months please? Can you also tell me when he became verified?

                            I'm sure he'd be pretty upset if you actually answered my questions.

                            I mean this is absolutely unbelievable to me that you can divulge any information about anyone regardless of what they are accused of to people with no authority whatsoever.

                            You are a company that deals with money. Your customers confidentiality should be a major priority regardless of who they are. You should not be giving out any information to anyone to help maintain your credibility because you are under attack. No one here is an authority that you must answer to. I understand why you want to respond, but these details are not necessary.

                            In my eyes this shows me your company has many risk factors, and perhaps makes you look even worse than "supporting" file lockers.

                            Throughout this thread you have given away information about a customers account status, their activity or lack thereof, and also how you handle accounts in general. You obviously don't take privacy seriously at all, when in a business like yours it is of extreme importance.
                            Last edited by alcstrategy; 08-25-2012, 06:07 PM.

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