the constitution was not for show either.

Laws and rules are written every day and broken ever hour. And not just by some dirty bearded scum back wearing torn clothes. Often and just as often by mega businesses and corporations.

My simple question was, what companies have started with this. forgive me for not just tossing them my keys to my business and saying go wild and Gee I still hope im in business tomorrow.

If you buy into something that is " Free " or "Paid" and you don't ask questions and read the labels then you are just an idiot.

Thanks for a valuable answer.

While that is not really a lot of scenes in the grand scheme it is a start.

It would be nice to know the names of some of the other companies that have started, how they feel about the work etc.

I honestly dont see any reason someone would hide it. ( I can't/won't divulge any of our clients without their express permission to do so, ) This aside of course. I understand that totally and 100%

So they should violate their privacy clause because people do it all the time?

Where do you get that I am asking them to do that?

I asked who is using it? gee if I decide to I sure as hell wont mind them telling people.

If they have not asked if they can tell then they simply state. Hey for now we dont have permission.

I did not point a gun at them and demand them to tell. I did not call them scammers for not telling, I simply asked.

I think your first answer answers my question :) Second one is useful info too.I suggest to contact popular tube script creators so they can automatically integrate it into script so the script users can automatically turn it on when script is installed.

It's not that. It's that anyone with 1/2 a brain is skeptical of just about everything these days. All most the large companies do is fuck people over in one way or another, and the FSC's history isn't exactly beaming with success stories. It's very difficult to trust anyone these days, especially with your content, and especially for free.

I'm going to play out a scenario here, and I'm making it up as I go along so there will be holes in it. I do not think this is going to happen, I'm just running with one possible thing that comes to mind.

Random scenario: Once everyone has their videos fingerprinted, 5 years down the road and someone more or less is in control of most of the adult internet. It could be Stuart Lawley, it could be Manwin, or someone we've yet to come across. Suppose they use those fingerprints, obtained however they had to obtain them, to hold your content hostage or force you into something else, an internet ghetto perhaps. Or if you don't pay them, your content can not be played outside of your own sites. Anything is possible. This is EXACTLY the sort of thing some dirt bag organization would pull in this industry. I wouldn't even put such a move past the FSC. I don't trust them to walk my dog, let alone have possible access to my content library. And yea, sure, today they don't have anything to do with it, but how about next year, or in 4 years?

Anyway, that is just one thing that came to mine as quickly as I could write it. I'm sure with some thought, I could think of a lot more in great detail. So that is the sort of thing people fear. The future. Time and time again people have been fucked over and now it's difficult to trust anyone, especially when it comes to your original content.

What was wrong with the last fingerprinting run with the FSC, Manwin, and Pink Visual? Why did this new venture have to spin off? If the first one was so good, as it was claimed to be, why the need for DMCA Force? Just so many questions, and when the FSC is involved, all trust goes right out the window. Then to hear they may have blocked others from using Vobile's service, that just puts me off even more and says they are only in this for a quick buck and not for the better of the industry. If they wanted to better the industry, which should be their role, they would not try to keep other groups from using Vobile.

Like I said before, great technology, but laying down with the FSC in any capacity turns me off, and now more than ever if what Eric says is accurate about them blocking others form using this technology from Vobile.

Not just that. But Kristin said in the post
That tells me that they would need to download my content. Fingerprint it and then re-upload? and then they Delete it from their servers?

Kristen may be trustworthy, sorry hun I dont know you and some of the others in their company may be as well.( But I dont know them either ) but how many times have we seen here on this board about a " Rogue Employee" ( not from Pink Visual ) Not sure I want to risk that.

Right now I remove less than 10% of the videos that we have from tubes and file lockers etc. Just imagine a " Rogue " employee with his own copies of everything you own.

I think that fear gives me the right to ask questions like Who is using the system. ( Quentin you already gave me a good enough answer to this. thanks. This was just a Jab at the OLD guy for giving me shit about asking a very valid question. )

More valid points. The "rogue employee" seems to be the cause of many issues. I just read a thread by Sherm at Duke Dollars about someone who used to work for them who took 50 ex member accounts at a time and is now spamming them. It happens, and it would be terrifying if it happened with ALL of our content. I don't know what all someone could do with a finger printed video, and I'm sure we'll find out in the future, but leave it to people in the porn industry to find a bad way to use it.

I also want to note this is not a dig on Pink Visual, as I have zero issues with them, but shit does happen.

Go, Kristin, Go!
Congratulations on this, and a HUGE bump for you! ;)

Good point(s). This is where I have concerns.

Why should I fingerprint my content so tubes DONT publish it?
Leave it up to the content owners to decide if it should be uploaded or not.
As in, have the damn uploaders register with FSC and force them to fingerprint before uploading and only publish fingerprinted content on tubes.

As in, tubes leave me and my shit alone, and I will leave them alone (as in sending dmca's)

Is it only me that sees this as content hostage?

They fingerprint it, and it automatically gets removed from all tubes that are in the program (clearly, they dont control all tubes to get it removed from all of them, so only those that are in the program). So now that your content is fingerprinted, you can either
a) choose to monetize it
Where you are sharing profits on your content with them by some strange proportion where you get 30% :)
b) never be able to upload to any tube site they control because it's fingerprinted and it will get automatically rejected

Is that how i read it? Or did i miss something?
Can you fingerprint your vids for free, then remove it from tubes you want, and vids you want, so that if you choose to upload a site to promote and make money of, you don't have to include fsc, vobile et all? Or, once it's fingerprinted it's impossible to make money on your content without the guys that fingerprinted it?

Are you fingerprinting Pink Visual content?

http://fapdu.com/caught-cheating-karina-white

Troy claims he never steals so....