Killing off File Lockers

I agree.
If anyone doesn't want Adult King from taking money from the devil.. they should be an angel and donate enough that he won't need to.

Soon as I get my content creation biz going strong. I'll be giving as much as I'm able.
I've been following this section for weeks prior to registering here. It seems to me that if we are going to stop piracy we need to be super mature adults and not fight amongst ourselves. And if there's a problem it should be handled in private.

Why are these douche bag lawyers acting as DMCA agents for the biggest pirate tubes?

Lawrence G. Walters, Esq. can go fuck himself. I hope he gets colon cancer and his wife has an affair with a inner city black man.

QFT.

It's easy for everyone to sit on the sideline and complain about who he should and should not take money from. But that is why they stay in the bleachers all their lives. They are not people who do. They only talk. That applies to every aspect of their lives, you can count on that.

Awesome news

If hitting them in the wallet doesn't work, actual legal proceedings may. I have to say that Tustin and Fountain Valley seem to be hot beds for all kinds of illegal activity. Don't know why, just personal experience with the geographical area . . . .

The lack of donations is the saddest part. Adult King is doing a better job than anyone, yet look at the donations.

X100 and problem is solved a bit

The largest companies POUR money into the FSC, who in turn literally does NOTHING for them, year after year. Then you get a guy who is kicking ass and taking names, helping everyone in both adult and mainstream, and none of these same company can be bothered to so much as bump his thread.

Call it a hunch, but I think he's being cock blocked. Either that or all of the biggest companies are also neck deep in piracy themselves.

The irony of it all is, the biggest pirate operation in the business is donating the most.

Everything is upside down and backwards. Makes your head spin.

Bob dodges direct questions, then, in a untasteful manor, degrades members who he's not familiar with. Bobs behavior displays a lack of professionalism which unsuccessfully impacts future donations.

More importantly, how are these donations being utilized?
Where is the legal documentation stating "Copy Control" successfully closed as much as one file locker. Have they contacted other legal entities for which any one of you could have done on your own.

If copy control claims no responsibility, what are they claiming responsibility for in lieu of the $6000.00 non tax exempt donations?

Looks like there are still some "growing pains" at UltraMegaBit...

They still have their Paypal? Or is that more BS they're feeding their affiliates?

It definitely raises questions. $6,000

If everyone posting here was to donate $100 it would be more then that. Yes for the price of a .xxx they can contribute to something that clearly works.

With proper funding Stop file Lockers can be more effective the the DMCA sending services, in getting illegal content off a huge sector of the piracy industry.

When a retired guy like me steps up and all those still relying on their porn income don't. It makes me sad. Too late now, for the next big show we need to get a Stand or major presence for SFL.

When is the next show?

Who will sponsor JFK with a T Shirt promoting them and SFL?

Going to work on this.

Did anybody notice that if you ask any questions about his m.o. or about the money he gets Adultking instantly goes nuts and will call you a thief, nobody or a troll.
Lets be honest. Nobody here has a clue what he is really doing. He won't tell us a thing. We have no clue how he spends the money. We don't have any proof that he closed even one filelocker. We know nothing and he won't tell us anything. And don't dare to ask because you will be called a pirate by him and his following.

Can you share with us what exactly you do in the Adult Business please.

And you care because?

Those of us with skin in the game don't care how it gets done or in what manner it gets done. Those of you who sit on the sidelines and complain, your words, thoughts, and posts are completely insignificant. You are degraded because you set yourself up to be degraded. You are unworthy of answers or any respect whatsoever.


Unless you donated, shut the fuck up.

You have turned out to be just another faceless troll. I highly doubt you are a content producer as you claim to be. You sound like just another Moogie nick. What a fucking pathetic life you must live to come back here, nick after nick after nick, crying like a bitch. Seriously, it is sad.

Dirty F, there are plenty of us who know what is going on, every detailed step. He just doesn't justify trolls, possible pirates, and haters, nor should he. If you are not involved, you are wasting his time and treated accordingly. If you are involved, you know what is going on. It really is that simple. Why would he divulge every aspect of what he is going to the general public on GFY? Use your head man. This is not rocket science.

I support this effort 100% but still I would personally I would like to know more about what it is that Adult King does. Except I understand the problem. If Adult King publishes or discuss what it is that he does, the pirates will adapt and we all loose this war.

Let me tell you about what piracy has done to my business...

When the piracy and free porn started getting bad I went back to my roots and only did business with those that hadn't embraced the new technology. The money hasn't changed on a per sale basis but the number of clients I had have started to cut back on purchases or are just retiring de Martinique. So I'm having to come back and start dealing again with the Internet.

The quality of what I'm able to produce is much less because I have less of a budget. The free content I was able to somewhat adapt using origionality, asking the girls to accept a little less money and avoiding the *mainstream* porn industry.

But the pirates....

Nothing but an ignorant species that tells me to fuck off and call me names. No matter how nice, polite or respectful I try to explain my problem or treat them I get told to adpat or die and to kiss their asses. Then just to teach me a lesson for * daring * to ask them to ease up on me they go out of their way to spread my content over thousands more sites. Even more so they start looking for more of my product and upload it too.

I used the same company name for around 20 years but since 2006 I've had to change my company name 3 times to stop their assaults. They're barbarians united by their love of destruction. And for this reason alone I'll gladly light a candle at church for Adult King and his efforts.

Now I know that all you United States people can produce in a year what toke me 2 decades or so to create. And I am certainly not a saint or a role model. But I have provided regular work and extra money to many performers. My home is paid for and I have enough money I could take a cheap early retirement if I sold my home.

However I feel responsible for those that use me to pay their bills. And the pirates don't want to listen that there are others that need me and I can't adapt over-night without stepping on them.

So in the big picture...
If Adult King is just a scam artist than I ask you what's one more going to make? We're all circling the drain to some extent and one more nail in our coffin is just another nail amongst many.

But if Adult King is the real, then I have to support him. Because he's at least turning into the fight. And given the choice of no chance versus fat chance.. i'll play the long shot.

because I have nothing to loose but everything to gain.

Moogie is that you?

I will donate money if he tells us, with proof, to SFL.

I will donate anyway.

Those questioning what happens to the money.

HE USES IT TO SHUT DOWN FILE LOCKERS PAYMENT OPTIONS.

Really is it that tough to grasp?

Pretty sure it is. All of these guys joined around the same time and all spew the same old tired shit, over and over, with every nick they create. It's really pathetic.

Let's be clear about this.

Many of best financial contributors to the Stop File Lockers campaign have at least guest access to our internal collaboration system. They see much of what goes on. Some of our contributors even have access to our closed portion of the collaboration system and are privy to the high level discussions, negotiations, agreements and ongoing progress on such matters.

It's worth noting that Moogie/Krylon tried to get in to this system. Firstly he asked in this thread if he could help, then he approached others in the system to ask if he could get in on the inside and help. Many hostile people are desperate for inside information on what we're doing.

Part of our success in this project can be attributed to the fact that most targets don't know they're going to be hit until they are wondering why they can't access thousands of illicitly gained dollars in various accounts. We do not share information about operational matters unless strategically advantageous to do so, the same goes for potential targets.

As for expenditure. It's a common theme amongst people commenting on media articles, pirate webmaster forums and so forth that we're getting rich from donations.

The facts are this:

Nobody gets paid for participating in the Stop File Lockers project.

The $6,057.50 raised in general donations has been helpful but is merely a fraction of what this project has cost to run. Even if you add in private donations we have fallen well short of expenditure, the rest of which has come out of my own pocket.

Below is a non exhaustive list of some of our expenditure.

1. 440 Collins Street. This is our public place of business and operation, where all inbound business communication heads, where we meet with parties associated with our efforts, where we meet with people we seek to have relationships with for our efforts, where our files and legal documentation is kept and where our secretarial support is based.

2. Accountants. Yes we have an accountant from a reputable Melbourne accountancy firm overseeing every cent that goes through Copy Control and providing advice on structure and accountancy matters for the Rights Holder Association in the process of being formed.

3. Lawyers: We have a client relationship with one of the best boutique specialist IP law firms in Australia. Legal advice and work is very expensive. Having one legal letter such as a general Cease and Desist notice (that can be relied upon in evidence) cost $400 to draft. Non disclosure agreements, of which we now have many, can cost $800 - $1000 each to draft.

4. Infrastructure. We pay for a dedicated server, VoIP services, Cloud Storage services, firewall and CDN services. All of which is required to conduct our business or to keep our services running in the face of a regular onslaught of attacks and hacking attempts.

5. Travel. In just the past two weeks I have been to meetings in Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Sydney. A return flight, Melbourne to Sydney can cost $400+. Add in taxis, accommodation, meals and you start to add up the dollars.

6. Software: Every month we pay for Podio, Xero, Adobe Creative Cloud, there's $200 a month just for those three.

7. Software Development: We have also spent money on programmers. We've built our own forensic project management system which is specially built to streamline and manage our operation. Every detection, communication, infringement detected, infringement reported, payment processor history, payment processor correspondence, piracy site hosting history, piracy site ownership history, domain registrar history and so forth is recorded in this system. At a press of a button we can generate a detailed report for payment processors or law enforcement detailing everything we know about a file locker or other piracy site. This information can be relied upon because it has been recorded in a detailed and consistent manner with cross checking applied to help ensure accuracy.

Let's look at time volunteered.

I put in well over 60 - 70 hours a week on this project. All of it unpaid.

Nautilus tirelessly work to create reports, monitor repeat offenders, provides advice and assistance on future directions.

Eric from Remove Your Content provided a significant contribution for the time that he was involved.

DWB has been inside from the beginning and is a constant source of advice or opinion about future direction and progress.

There are others who aren't so visible, but still there working behind the scenes to help protect works owned by rights holders. Providing assistance where they can, providing advice or opinions and generally being supportive.

As for those faceless critics who say there's no proof we have shut down a single file locker, all I have to say is that we have been very plain that we never take credit for any closure of any site and there are reasons.

1. We don't want pirates to be sure, we want to keep them guessing about what's happened.
2. We don't want our efforts to be reverse engineered, we deliberately delay some announcements just for this reason, again we like to keep people guessing.
3. We don't want to legally jeopardise future possible prosecution or legal action that may arise from the investigations we conduct or those of third parties.

Unfortunately it's a fact of life that many of our critics are as vocal as they are stupid. They pollute this thread, comment threads on media reports, threads on piracy forums with flames, conspiracy theories, death threats, other threats, bravado, innuendo, false allegations of impropriety and so forth. We take these critics at face value for who they are and what they stand for.

Reporting live Kermi the Frog...

you must be new to the industry

I've had my share of dealings with the United States porn industry and I know how bad of a problem the big egos and childish behaviour can be. Unfortunately the United States and the other english speaking pornographers are the key to fighting the piracy problem.

So all I can do is light a candle and hope enough people will be mature and put aside their differences.

Make no mistake about it everything we say publicly about the Stop File Lockers project is rebroadcast straight to the pirates.

http://www.wjunction.com/1675570-post166.htm

This is why we limit what we say publicly, because the pirates hang off every word we say looking for some insight into our tactics and plans.

We are not going to give them anything that can help them and we need to also remain vigilant against people like Krylon/Moogie who try to get into our internal systems.

If you look at the signature of those against this fight, you will see there's very little. My conclusion is many of them have a finger in the piracy pile and it's not as sticky as it was.

Well, that certainly clears up a lot of things. Was this really that hard to explain without calling everyone a troll etc?
I truly support what you are doing, i just think your attitude stinks.

To do the impossible it takes an impossible person.

Give them hell Adulte King.

Just FYI a thread about some file locker's contacts:

Constantin Luchian...Anyone know him?
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1084796

Back to the first page...

If you want this thread up, you can just say "bump"

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1084796

blows up?

Eric has the same attitude, Steve at APIC had it, now AK. Is it the job or does the job make them like this?

Bob, thanks for your in depth explanation. Please accept my apologies for being inappropriately curious.
I support your mission & efforts 100%.

That was a hell of a flip flop.

Are you really a content producer?

Easier to find when it's on top of the page

So keep it there.

i've been away for a week, but that's a bump for the thread
nice to see it's still on air

Soon Indian uploaders to file lockers might have more than their Paypal accounts to worry about.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/soon--jail-...line--mms.html

Indeed. Confusing plus disturbing

Indians can't get a break.

Giving Exposure to the Campaign wherever I can.
Good Luck and Keep It Real !

Just a reminder to everyone.

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Report piracy sites at http://copycontrol.org/report-piracy/

Please cc all your DMCA & infringement reports to infringements -at- copycontrol.org

We need these notices as they help us build our case against sites with various organisations. They also allow us to understand patterns of infringement that help us to more effectively target niche file lockers that may otherwise remain under the radar.
We will also be able to use the information in the notices with other data points to trace certain infringement back through specific sites. The most important weapon in our arsenal is information and the more of it we have, the more chance we have of getting results with the really problematic sites.

Official Copy Control updates and news at http://forum.copycontrol.org

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Contributions to the Stop File Lockers project can also be made using Paxum to [email protected]

We can be contacted using the contact form on the Stop File Lockers website or on the Copy Control Website

http://stopfilelockers.com

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Thank you to everyone who has supported this project, it wouldn't exist without you.

Seems our friend Moogie / Krylon was a member of the Elite Torrent Group.

It seems there's a pattern of behaviour emerging that Rudy Corella might like to spend more than a moment in reflection about.

He should take note of the outcome of the case referenced in the link below.

http://www.vawd.uscourts.gov/OPINION...7CR00015OP.PDF

then boys..

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2008/June/08-crm-574.html

And Moogie/Krylon/Rudy Corella was a member.

You'd think he'd have learnt from Daniel Dove's fate, seems not.

3550 Shabangs

It just keeps getting better...

Where are the people telling us there are no prosecutions or convictions?

It appears Mr. Markham is more excited with his current statement than watching the birth of another mans child.

Mr. Markham, members, including myself were inquiring of tangible proof of copy control's file locker closers not prosecutions or convictions.

Perhaps you're a little on edge with respect to your future paternity test gyf member Mr Pheer suggested you participate in?

It's understandable!
Chin up buddy, it'll be alright.