Killing off File Lockers - Page 29 - GoFuckYourself.com

FoxtrotAlpha · 07-14-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

leaseweb also hosts child pornography and refuses to get rid of it

They will host many illegal things, mostly due to them not really caring about DMCA and what not. The majority of the illegal services they host, though, are private so are difficult to prove the existence of.

Like my example of uploaders automating the process on leaseweb servers, there's not really a way to find the IPs of those servers as they have no public interface. But I know for a fact leaseweb hosts most of them in the world, probably with OVH being second.

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Originally Posted by DWB

1) Who is their upstream provider?

2) What is the Dutch take down procedure?

I assume leaseweb have a number of upstream providers, being that they're rather large.
Probably telia, level3, etc. They have their own DC, they're huge, lol.

krylon · 07-14-2012, 05:56 PM

bump for AK.

also, I think leaseweb doesent really seem to care about DMCA, since it is a US Law, so, they could care less about any DMCA notices they get.

AdultKing · 07-14-2012, 06:35 PM

I just wanted to chime in to say I've been reading everything and taking all points raised on board. We're not doing much over the weekend, but will be back on Monday.

His Infernal Majesty · 07-14-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by krylon

bump for AK.

also, I think leaseweb doesent really seem to care about DMCA, since it is a US Law, so, they could care less about any DMCA notices they get.

That is fine, but there are dutch laws that are very similar which they also skirt. They only request you to send one when you send a DMCA so they can drag their feet. Even if you start out with the proper takedown notice, then they can't figure out the IP, or you emailed the wrong place (whichever one you email first is always the wrong one), etc.

They also have a US entity and servers in the US as discovered from the MegaUpload raid. And using American companies to collect money.

JOKER · 07-14-2012, 10:21 PM

Some general input from my side on the progress of all this:

This whole effort / campaign has now entered what I like to call the long-haul, structured phase.

Meaning:

1.: the collaboration task handling system is in the last testing-phase and is ready for roll-out sometime next week.

2.: Volunteers can then handle tasks assigned to them and actively help combat commercial internet piracy.

3.: AdultKing and the Copy Control Team can concentrate on their most pressing tasks and keep making this all happening and most important happening successfully.

What this also means is that AdultKing is busy managing the Copy Control Team and will be available less to the public so he does not burn out and this campaign can be maintained for the long-haul.

So don't expect him to answer ICQ's at 3 AM Aussie-time anymore - I'm sure he would love to do that, but to not burn out and to keep going strong longterm, he just can't afford to do that any longer.

AdultKing · 07-14-2012, 11:37 PM

Thanks Joker! Everything you say is absolutely correct.

Meanwhile in Uploader land, there are unhappy affiliates. They were so close, they received their much anticipated and patiently waited for payment, then zap, Paypal freeze the affiliate payment sent to the affiliate.

How frustrating it must be as an uploading affiliate to get paid then not be able to access that payment due to a Paypal hold (and possible reversal).

AGS-17 · 07-14-2012, 11:51 PM

Hey Adult King, I wanted to ask you a question regarding FilePost.

It seems that they began blocking incoming hits from FilesTube with your help and that is a start, BUT meanwhile they are happily accepting traffic from likes of: planetsuzy.org, porn-w.org, extreme-board.com and so on, which begs the question if they are just bullshitting you by sacrificing a little traffic so you get off their backs and not attack their PayPal account??

AdultKing · 07-15-2012, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AGS-17

Hey Adult King, I wanted to ask you a question regarding FilePost.

It seems that they began blocking incoming hits from FilesTube with your help and that is a start, BUT meanwhile they are happily accepting traffic from likes of: planetsuzy.org, porn-w.org, extreme-board.com and so on, which begs the question if they are just bullshitting you by sacrificing a little traffic so you get off their backs and not attack their PayPal account??

We haven't begun discussions with Alex from FilesPost yet. We expect to do so this week. We have been busy with structural issues and he has been away.

Also Copy Control, through it's collaboration or staff, does not get to choose which Paypal site to "attack" as you put it. All we do is make refer offending sites to Paypal and if necessary other processors. We also make referrals to the authorities where necessary.

It's up to Paypal to decide who they terminate and who they do not. Also, the flow of information to Paypal is one way, we report to them, they do not share customer information with us. I would assume, that like us, some sites take longer for Paypal to investigate than others.

None of this is a simple process and it takes checking, rechecking and re-verification. It can take time for some results to be seen.

Further to this, we do not reveal which sites we are investigating until after we see action as having been taken.

papill0n · 07-15-2012, 12:48 AM

good on ya mate. I have respect for what youre doing here

Slappin Fish · 07-15-2012, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Thanks Joker! Everything you say is absolutely correct.

Meanwhile in Uploader land, there are unhappy affiliates. They were so close, they received their much anticipated and patiently waited for payment, then zap, Paypal freeze the affiliate payment sent to the affiliate.

How frustrating it must be as an uploading affiliate to get paid then not be able to access that payment due to a Paypal hold (and possible reversal).

What uploaders are also saying is even though their paypal is limited and the reported file deleted, the accounts are still active and all other files can be downloaded and paid by surfers via paypal as per usual

AdultKing · 07-15-2012, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

What uploaders are also saying is even though their paypal is limited and the reported file deleted, the accounts are still active and all other files can be downloaded and paid by surfers via paypal as per usual

There is a bit of a process that goes on between limitation then termination. Sometimes it takes time, this is for a wide range if reasons.

We have found a whole lot of these sites are now using dormant Paypal accounts to avoid limitation or termination, unfortunately we need to keep reviewing every site continuously.

This is a long term effort, nothing will happen overnight.

Slappin Fish · 07-15-2012, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

There is a bit of a process that goes on between limitation then termination. Sometimes it takes time, this is for a wide range if reasons.

We have found a whole lot of these sites are now using dormant Paypal accounts to avoid limitation or termination, unfortunately we need to keep reviewing every site continuously.

This is a long term effort, nothing will happen overnight.

I get you but the worry here is file lockers that are compliant aren't following through on this condition :

"merchants must prohibit users form uploading files involving illegal content and indicate that users involved in such file transfers will be permanently removed from their service"

not a top priority but maybe something you can bring up with paypal at some point.

Paul Markham · 07-15-2012, 03:00 AM

reading this http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/...ker-copyright/ it's clear that a change in the law has to come. DMCA protects Phatservers from anything illegal that I might do on their servers. This comes from the Betamax case years ago. Yet piracy sites aren't the manufacturers or only the hosting service alone.

They distribute content via their servers and charge for the download. This IMO makes the publishers and a storage facility. The law needs to define this clearly. If you sell access to illegal goods, you're responsible. The responsibility needs to be appropriate. A shop selling one stolen watch among 100s of legit watches is an over sight. A shop selling 99 stolen watches out of 100 is a fencing operation.

DMCA clearly states, as it should, that the hosting service isn't responsible for the uploaded content. The processors Terms and Conditions must clearly state the sellers have to be responsible for what they sell.

SOPA was a sledge Hammer to crack a walnut. Remove the funding and the beast starves. Not to death, but it's reduced to kids sharing.

Interesting paragraph in the article.

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Whether Megaupload really did comply with the DMCA is sharply contested. To qualify for the DMCA's safe harbor, Internet companies must terminate users who are repeat infringers, and the government says Megaupload didn't. According to the indictment, for instance, it failed to terminate the account of one user despite repeated requests from a movie studio, including 85 takedown notices relating to 57 feature films that were being posted on at least 200 publicly available links.

Anyone remember a certain Tube site owner who was very unclear on this and needed to consult his lawyer?

DWB · 07-15-2012, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

SOPA was a sledge Hammer to crack a walnut. Remove the funding and the beast starves. Not to death, but it's reduced to kids sharing.

SOPA 2 is getting ready to be rammed through quietly. This time it's called IPAA. Hardly making any press at all. They have not even made it public yet and plan to vote on it THE SAME DAY it's made public, with no time to read it.

FoxtrotAlpha · 07-15-2012, 07:41 AM

Let's report all these filehosts & ecatel to ICE so they can seize their domains like the many others they somehow magically seized without going to court.

AdultKing · 07-15-2012, 07:48 AM

There seems to be anecdotal evidence on several forums that recipients of affiliate payments from certain sites are finding their own Paypal accounts limited.

If anyone else has any news on this I'd appreciate hearing it as Paypal don't tell us stuff like that.

FoxtrotAlpha · 07-15-2012, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

There seems to be anecdotal evidence on several forums that recipients of affiliate payments from certain sites are finding their own Paypal accounts limited.

If anyone else has any news on this I'd appreciate hearing it as Paypal don't tell us stuff like that.

Haven't seen any major 'chatter' about it, maybe it was just a couple of people who got unlucky? They're certainly not limiting *every* uploader's paypal because we'd definitely know about that from the usual forums they gather on.

Slappin Fish · 07-15-2012, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

There seems to be anecdotal evidence on several forums that recipients of affiliate payments from certain sites are finding their own Paypal accounts limited.

If anyone else has any news on this I'd appreciate hearing it as Paypal don't tell us stuff like that.

That's what I have been saying, sounds like good news but it isn't. Affiliate's paypal account is limited.. but the Filelocker's isn't.

Uploaders will just set up a Webmoney account to receive payments..still raking up sales thanks to Paypal.

Nautilus · 07-15-2012, 11:59 AM

Both filefactory and sendspace are no longer offering paypal for payments.

19teenporn · 07-15-2012, 02:58 PM

Keep it up!

AdultKing · 07-15-2012, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

That's what I have been saying, sounds like good news but it isn't. Affiliate's paypal account is limited.. but the Filelocker's isn't.

Uploaders will just set up a Webmoney account to receive payments..still raking up sales thanks to Paypal.

This clearly isn't happening this way as plenty of file lockers have had their accounts irrevocably terminated. The only reason most of them are still processing is that they are using other dormant Paypal accounts.

Sooner or later the more stubborn file lockers will run out of Paypal accounts to use.

Dirty F · 07-15-2012, 03:44 PM

I started a filelocker offering Paypal payments a few days ago. I never had a site grow so quick! It's insane! It's growing with about 20k hits a day. The word spreads quick. I have to thank Adultking really. I would never even have bothered normally.

Klen · 07-15-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I started a filelocker offering Paypal payments a few days ago. I never had a site grow so quick! It's insane! It's growing with about 20k hits a day. The word spreads quick. I have to thank Adultking really. I would never even have bothered normally.

How much do you pay per 1000 downloads

adultmobile · 07-15-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

A shop selling one stolen watch among 100s of legit watches is an over sight. A shop selling 99 stolen watches out of 100 is a fencing operation.

They could do a law so if more than 50% of downloads is made on clearly illegal files, then should take remedy or they're responsible. It is however difficult to know what's being downloaded, only the admin panel of file locker reports this, and that can be hidden or faked. Without access to statistics from filelocker, the only tools available are google, bing and other file searching tools, but give not an idea of the % of those files over total files, and most importantly, the number of downloads of those files over total. In fact it should be considered the % of downloads and not % of files, otherwise the file locker it could upload thousands of legitimate files no one downloads, to compensate hundreds of pirate files millions of people downloads: "ok I have 500 pirate files but other 5000 legitimate, is just 10%".

The only practical way would be to make it mandatory the use of a centralized files index for all the file lockers, that lists files, its uploaders, downloaders, hits, then it redirects and assigns to every filehoster for their servers and billing needs.. it should partecipate to this also dropbox, google drive or so, and whoever does not use this system would be not acceptable by any biller. It should be automatic that for every participating file locker, each day or week the top files by hits making sort of 50% of traffic should be monitored, if those being mostly pirated and illegal stuff, warning given. Billers should be all alerted (by visa and mastercard directly) that any file locker not participating to this should not be accepted, or biller is responsible directly for what's billed. This is obviously idealistic sci-fi, but here just to talk.

DTK · 07-15-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

This is a long term effort, nothing will happen overnight.

seems that's what certain whiners can't understand

19teenporn · 07-15-2012, 11:43 PM

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MrDeiz · 07-16-2012, 12:06 AM

kill them all

Paul Markham · 07-16-2012, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile

They could do a law so if more than 50% of downloads is made on clearly illegal files, then should take remedy or they're responsible. It is however difficult to know what's being downloaded, only the admin panel of file locker reports this, and that can be hidden or faked. Without access to statistics from filelocker, the only tools available are google, bing and other file searching tools, but give not an idea of the % of those files over total files, and most importantly, the number of downloads of those files over total. In fact it should be considered the % of downloads and not % of files, otherwise the file locker it could upload thousands of legitimate files no one downloads, to compensate hundreds of pirate files millions of people downloads: "ok I have 500 pirate files but other 5000 legitimate, is just 10%".

The only practical way would be to make it mandatory the use of a centralized files index for all the file lockers, that lists files, its uploaders, downloaders, hits, then it redirects and assigns to every filehoster for their servers and billing needs.. it should partecipate to this also dropbox, google drive or so, and whoever does not use this system would be not acceptable by any biller. It should be automatic that for every participating file locker, each day or week the top files by hits making sort of 50% of traffic should be monitored, if those being mostly pirated and illegal stuff, warning given. Billers should be all alerted (by visa and mastercard directly) that any file locker not participating to this should not be accepted, or biller is responsible directly for what's billed. This is obviously idealistic sci-fi, but here just to talk.

Yes the law needs to be workable and sensible. Still a shop offering content for sales that's 99% stolen is committing a crime.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

SOPA 2 is getting ready to be rammed through quietly. This time it's called IPAA. Hardly making any press at all. They have not even made it public yet and plan to vote on it THE SAME DAY it's made public, with no time to read it.

Not surprised.

Slappin Fish · 07-16-2012, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

This clearly isn't happening this way as plenty of file lockers have had their accounts irrevocably terminated. The only reason most of them are still processing is that they are using other dormant Paypal accounts.

Sooner or later the more stubborn file lockers will run out of Paypal accounts to use.

This is happening with filelocker that have agreed to open their backend to paypal (e.g Netload).

tellmeyes · 07-16-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus

Both filefactory and sendspace are no longer offering paypal for payments.

wow. Sendspace is quite old service, and seemed to be pretty legit, on par with dropbox and etc. never ran affiliate program or offered any incentives to its users for downloads. I dont think AK and Co ever reported it to PP. Looks to me like PP is dropping file-sharing business as whole

19teenporn · 07-16-2012, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tellmeyes

wow. Sendspace is quite old service, and seemed to be pretty legit, on par with dropbox and etc. never ran affiliate program or offered any incentives to its users for downloads. I dont think AK and Co ever reported it to PP. Looks to me like PP is dropping file-sharing business as whole

That would be soooo nice...

tellmeyes · 07-16-2012, 04:06 AM

I dont believe loosing PayPal causes critical damages to the filelockers, as long as they are able to secure CC merchant accounts(all big ones can do that). Without PP they only loose just some part of moneyflow only(approx 20%).

VISA/MC are not that easy to deal as PayPal, which is US based company. Also they have to honor acquiring bank residential country laws. I remember dutch bank getting sued for refusing to process some specific adult niches, and in fact forced to accept these client as a result. Also, for example, a Cyprus or Spanish or whatever bank, doesnt give a shit about DMCA, which is US law, as long as CB rate is OK. You will have to collect evidences according to their local copyright laws.
And anyway dealing with VISA/MC/Banks may take months or even years, it is very slow process.

RegUser · 07-16-2012, 04:46 AM

"I dont believe loosing PayPal causes critical damages to the filelockers, as long as they are able to secure CC merchant accounts(all big ones can do that). Without PP they only loose just some part of moneyflow only(approx 20%)."
Not true at all. Most new mushroom crop of file lockers is being made by tom dicks and harrys of 3rd world and other than pp, there is no alternative for them.
Most clients trust pp to pay as well, how many would trust merchant account of an unknown company to give away their credit card details.
Loss of PP is what made this thread so powerful

AdultKing · 07-16-2012, 05:49 AM

Some file lockers claim that Paypal accounts for up to 75% of their subscriptions.

On Sendspace, we had no involvement there, they weren't even in our targeting lists.

Paul Markham · 07-16-2012, 08:05 AM

Back to the top.

Ramirez · 07-16-2012, 09:28 AM

Bumping this thread with something i found on a guy's signature:

Quote:

Always Download From Filefactory Links.... SO that i'll get revenue and provide u more movies.....

PM me when Dead link is found...
I'll Try my best to Recover it....

Robbie · 07-16-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tellmeyes

VISA/MC are not that easy to deal as PayPal, which is US based company. Also they have to honor acquiring bank residential country laws. I remember dutch bank getting sued for refusing to process some specific adult niches, and in fact forced to accept these client as a result.

BULLSHIT.

If I just so much as write the word "prostitute" or "force" or a long list of other words that Visa and Mastercard have "banned" they will drop your ass so fast it makes your head spin.

I've had that happen several times and had to re-write certain text and get re-reviewed to get processing back with them. And when you break their tos...they don't give a damn about your countries "acquiring bank laws"

When Visa or Mastercard shut you down...your bank can't do shit about it.

And if/when Visa and Mastercard decide to shut down processing for pirate sites...they will be GONE.

adultmobile · 07-16-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

BULLSHIT.
If I just so much as write the word "prostitute" or "force" or a long list of other words that Visa and Mastercard have "banned" they will drop your ass so fast it makes your head spin.
I've had that happen several times and had to re-write certain text and get re-reviewed to get processing back with them. .

I think it was the biller (such as epoch, ccbill, etc.) that reviewed this, not Visa / MC people. I have the impression VISA / MC delegates this review to lots middlemens, and have no clue themselves.

JosephFM · 07-16-2012, 11:54 AM

To the TOP!

Robbie · 07-16-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

I think it was the biller (such as epoch, ccbill, etc.) that reviewed this, not Visa / MC people. I have the impression VISA / MC delegates this review to lots middlemens, and have no clue themselves.

MC uses a bot to seach for keywords and terms. And they are real fucking anal about it.

They had shut off processing on me with my Zombaio account because they found where I had written "Then he FORCED Claudia Marie to orgasm"

Their bot saw the word "forced" and flagged me. They didn't bother to take the word in context at all. If you use the word "forced" in ANY way...MC will shut down processing.

The third party biller (Zombaio) didn't even know that MC had done that until I contacted them over some people writing me at support wondering why they suddenly couldn't use their MasterCard to join.

Zombaio had to get with MC after I removed the word "forced" and changed it to "made her have an orgasm" and then they re-reviewed the site (meaning they ran the bot over it again) and turned my processing back on.

So make no mistake..it's NOT the third party billers. It's the credit card companies themselves...and when they shut you down, you are screwed.

19teenporn · 07-16-2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tellmeyes

I dont believe loosing PayPal causes critical damages to the filelockers, as long as they are able to secure CC merchant accounts(all big ones can do that). Without PP they only loose just some part of moneyflow only(approx 20%).
And anyway dealing with VISA/MC/Banks may take months or even years, it is very slow process.

Every fuckng day, a new clueless bitch has to appear in this thread...

Dirty F · 07-16-2012, 01:20 PM

80k visitors to my filelocker today. About 50 new uploaders. Not bad

I love this shit. Easiest money ever thanks to Adultking!!

19teenporn · 07-16-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F

80k visitors to my filelocker today. About 50 new uploaders. Not bad

I love this shit. Easiest money ever thanks to Adultking!!

Hmmm, intereating...

80k, times 5 popunders per vissit...

Nice money...

looky_lou · 07-16-2012, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F

80k visitors to my filelocker today. About 50 new uploaders. Not bad

I love this shit. Easiest money ever thanks to Adultking!!

Congratulations. You finally figured out how to make money on the internet. You are the man!!!!!!!!

DWB · 07-16-2012, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by looky_lou

Congratulations. You finally figured out how to make money on the internet. You are the man!!!!!!!!

19teenporn · 07-16-2012, 03:48 PM

Bump for 80k visits

Axeman · 07-16-2012, 08:48 PM

Bump for the good fight

glowlite · 07-16-2012, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n

good on ya mate. I have respect for what youre doing here

Agreed ..................

Triple-A · 07-16-2012, 10:21 PM

keep it up... getting pissed off with rapidgator ignoring my requests to delete a prolific poster of my stuff re uploading time and time again. why do they bother writing their bullshit TOS, something has to be done.

fucking filelockers

07-14-2012, 10:21 PM	#1405
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	Some general input from my side on the progress of all this: This whole effort / campaign has now entered what I like to call the long-haul, structured phase. Meaning: 1.: the collaboration task handling system is in the last testing-phase and is ready for roll-out sometime next week. 2.: Volunteers can then handle tasks assigned to them and *actively help* combat commercial internet piracy. 3.: AdultKing and the Copy Control Team can concentrate on their most pressing tasks and keep making this all happening and most important happening successfully. What this also means is that AdultKing is busy managing the Copy Control Team and will be available less to the public so he does not burn out and this campaign can be maintained for the long-haul. So don't expect him to answer ICQ's at 3 AM Aussie-time anymore - I'm sure he would love to do that, but to not burn out and to keep going strong longterm, he just can't afford to do that any longer. __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker

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07-16-2012, 12:06 AM	#1428
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07-16-2012, 08:05 AM	#1436
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07-14-2012, 05:56 PM	#1402
krylon Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 225	bump for AK. also, I think leaseweb doesent really seem to care about DMCA, since it is a US Law, so, they could care less about any DMCA notices they get.

07-14-2012, 06:35 PM	#1403
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,602	I just wanted to chime in to say I've been reading everything and taking all points raised on board. We're not doing much over the weekend, but will be back on Monday.

07-14-2012, 11:37 PM	#1406
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,602	Thanks Joker! Everything you say is absolutely correct. Meanwhile in Uploader land, there are unhappy affiliates. They were so close, they received their much anticipated and patiently waited for payment, then zap, Paypal freeze the affiliate payment sent to the affiliate. How frustrating it must be as an uploading affiliate to get paid then not be able to access that payment due to a Paypal hold (and possible reversal).

07-14-2012, 11:51 PM	#1407
AGS-17 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,402	Hey Adult King, I wanted to ask you a question regarding FilePost. It seems that they began blocking incoming hits from FilesTube with your help and that is a start, BUT meanwhile they are happily accepting traffic from likes of: planetsuzy.org, porn-w.org, extreme-board.com and so on, which begs the question if they are just bullshitting you by sacrificing a little traffic so you get off their backs and not attack their PayPal account??

07-15-2012, 12:48 AM	#1409
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	good on ya mate. I have respect for what youre doing here

07-15-2012, 07:41 AM	#1415
FoxtrotAlpha Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 104	Let's report all these filehosts & ecatel to ICE so they can seize their domains like the many others they somehow magically seized without going to court.

07-15-2012, 07:48 AM	#1416
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,602	There seems to be anecdotal evidence on several forums that recipients of affiliate payments from certain sites are finding their own Paypal accounts limited. If anyone else has any news on this I'd appreciate hearing it as Paypal don't tell us stuff like that.

07-15-2012, 02:58 PM	#1420
19teenporn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: En la reverendisima concha de tu madre! Posts: 3,034	Keep it up!

07-15-2012, 03:44 PM	#1422
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I started a filelocker offering Paypal payments a few days ago. I never had a site grow so quick! It's insane! It's growing with about 20k hits a day. The word spreads quick. I have to thank Adultking really. I would never even have bothered normally.

07-15-2012, 11:43 PM	#1426
19teenporn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: En la reverendisima concha de tu madre! Posts: 3,034	Sunday... Or monday? Some day bump.

07-16-2012, 04:06 AM	#1433
tellmeyes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 55	I dont believe loosing PayPal causes critical damages to the filelockers, as long as they are able to secure CC merchant accounts(all big ones can do that). Without PP they only loose just some part of moneyflow only(approx 20%). VISA/MC are not that easy to deal as PayPal, which is US based company. Also they have to honor acquiring bank residential country laws. I remember dutch bank getting sued for refusing to process some specific adult niches, and in fact forced to accept these client as a result. Also, for example, a Cyprus or Spanish or whatever bank, doesnt give a shit about DMCA, which is US law, as long as CB rate is OK. You will have to collect evidences according to their local copyright laws. And anyway dealing with VISA/MC/Banks may take months or even years, it is very slow process.

07-16-2012, 04:46 AM	#1434
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	"I dont believe loosing PayPal causes critical damages to the filelockers, as long as they are able to secure CC merchant accounts(all big ones can do that). Without PP they only loose just some part of moneyflow only(approx 20%)." Not true at all. Most new mushroom crop of file lockers is being made by tom dicks and harrys of 3rd world and other than pp, there is no alternative for them. Most clients trust pp to pay as well, how many would trust merchant account of an unknown company to give away their credit card details. Loss of PP is what made this thread so powerful

07-16-2012, 05:49 AM	#1435
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,602	Some file lockers claim that Paypal accounts for up to 75% of their subscriptions. On Sendspace, we had no involvement there, they weren't even in our targeting lists.

07-16-2012, 11:54 AM	#1440
JosephFM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,190	To the TOP!

07-16-2012, 01:20 PM	#1443
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	80k visitors to my filelocker today. About 50 new uploaders. Not bad I love this shit. Easiest money ever thanks to Adultking!!

07-16-2012, 03:48 PM	#1447
19teenporn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: En la reverendisima concha de tu madre! Posts: 3,034	Bump for 80k visits

07-16-2012, 08:48 PM	#1448
Axeman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Swamp Posts: 5,192	Bump for the good fight __________________ XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.com

07-16-2012, 10:21 PM	#1450
Triple-A Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Hartford CT Posts: 535	keep it up... getting pissed off with rapidgator ignoring my requests to delete a prolific poster of my stuff re uploading time and time again. why do they bother writing their bullshit TOS, something has to be done. fucking filelockers