GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Extortion - Harassment as a business model WTF? (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1072708)

georgeyw 06-28-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 19030145)
Just saw at kcsr that it is supposed to be on our local ABC affiliate (KMBC - 9) at 10 tonight.

.



The news story seems to think this guy is doing a community service.

sarettah 06-28-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19030415)
The news story seems to think this guy is doing a community service.

Yeah, showed up on channel 4 our local fox affiliate dontcha know.

From his facebook page:

Quote:

Television Media:
BlabberMouth Kansas City has granted exclusive rights for any Television Station News Coverage to WDAF-Fox 4 Kansas City, the Fox News Channel, CNN, and National News Media Organizations affiliated with them and their online resources. Any story run on any of these listed media outlets, good or bad, has been authorized and approved by BlabberMouth, LLC.

I haven't watched the interview yet but have already heard it was pretty soft soap.

.

ErectMedia 06-28-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19030415)


The news story seems to think this guy is doing a community service.

agreed positive spin on it but expected from Fox

epitome 06-28-2012 10:04 PM

He just jedi-mind fucked everybody.

Put all of his own dirt out there on TV...

Bravo to him.

sarettah 06-28-2012 10:05 PM

The Star did an ok article on him. http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/28...formation.html

Love this part:

Quote:

His website ignited a firestorm on the Internet when a recipient began a thread on a popular message board, Kansas City Social Resource, at kcsr.org.

The recipient posted copies of his letter and the envelope it came in, which originally had his mugshot next to the words: ?We know?? The envelope also shows the blabbermouth website?s name and a drawing of a man with a zipper for a mouth.

Members of the message board blasted the blabbermouth site and questioned if it amounted to blackmail or extortion. Some members then began posting Creed?s home address, which they found in a lawsuit Creed filed last year and which was listed on a Missouri courts website.

This angered him, Creed told The Star.

Creed called Erik Radzins, owner of the message board, and asked him to remove the entire thread, Radzins said. But Radzins refused, saying Creed?s information already was available publicly on other websites.

?I feel it?s everybody?s right to know his information if he?s going to publish this information for thousands of other people,? he said. ?It?s just the highest amount of hypocrisy.?

And This
Quote:

Also, the billboard and other ways, beyond his website, that he plans to publicize arrests only will kick in when a third party requests it, he said. That way it?s not him threatening to spill the beans, he said.

?It would be straight-up blackmail if I did that,? he said. ?And that is not what I?m trying to do.?

The kerfuffle over his website this week has prompted Creed to revamp his website.

He said he now plans to send second letters to people to retract the neighborhood notification option that was outlined in the first letter, ?because they (arrestees) may have felt threatened,? he said.

He also may focus the site solely on DUI offenders, he said.

Creed said he expected to receive some criticism for the website but was surprised by the immediacy and level of the backlash, which included threats and references to his family.

?There?s no reason to dig into family members,? he said. ?That?s where it crossed the line.?

Lol.

.

sarettah 06-29-2012 08:30 AM

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...92991771_n.jpg

Front page. :thumbsup

.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 07-03-2012 01:44 PM

This is still going on over at the KC forum. They really have this guy running scared. He changes his entire business model about twice a day.

sarettah 07-03-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 19040985)
This is still going on over at the KC forum. They really have this guy running scared. He changes his entire business model about twice a day.

Yeah, he just keeps dancing and dancing.

.

sarettah 07-05-2012 02:42 PM

Blabber boy just posted on KCSR that he is throwing in the towel and killing the site. Good stuff.

Let's see if he sticks with it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blabberbutt


I give. The site's done. Everyone's Profile pages were taken down at 3am on July 3... and thanks to the hacker who got into my computer and wiped out my hard drive, and rest of the data I had about the site on my computer sometime while I was gone around noon that day, no new pages will be added, and the site is off. I've had way to many people get into the site and screw with it, it's cost us way to much to relocate out of the area we were in... so I'm just done.

You win... I'm sincerely sorry to have pissed so many people off, caused the trouble I did, and for everything else. Wasn't my intentions... I shouldn't have come in here with a chip on my shoulder, but I did. I know the letter was worded badly, and I didn't realize it was that copy that was sent to the printer. The site was originally based on being sarcastic and rude, and as I and others that consulted with me saw the potential to turn this into a good thing, we felt that it was best to be more professional. Can't change what's been done... the past is the past, and I apologize. I tried to listen to everyone's complaints that were passed on to me from friends on the board after the fact, and I knew this is where the thread was going to go, which is why I asked Erik to take it down so I could get things corrected before it got too late. Most of the changes made were planned (going non-profit especially), and I agreed with you all about taking those not convicted off the site (except DUI charges- 99% of them don't get dismissed), but that didn't please anyone, so I'll just move on in my life to other things- mainly for the sake of my brother, kids, and my deceased father (BTW- that picture you guys have of him was taken less than a week before he died from a 3 year battle with cancer- he served our country for 38 years and was on hospice care when they took that... it took 3 of us to be able to hold him up to take that shot).

I admire you all for pulling together and voicing your opinion. Wish I could have had the time to make the changes in order to make it more satisfactory to you all without being in the spotlight. I'd still love to do it and change it to a DUI & sex based site... but that won't be receiving any of my effort anytime soon... I've got other things to work on.

I will thank you all for giving my site the attention that it did also. I got a lot of communications from people wanting to back BlabberMouth financially, and I'm considering talking to them about other aspects of what BlabberMouth could be in other ways. If anything ever comes about from it, I'll keep my word and still make the donation I told Erik I was going to on the phone- especially since you guys hooked me up with about $600,000 worth of free advertising (in PR & Media relations... "good press... bad press... it's still all press, and any press is good press!") and got my name spread.

If anyone posted my brother or dad's images on this or other sites, I would appreciate it if they were removed. You can keep my stuff up... I don't care about it, but out of respect for them (they had nothing to do with this), I ask that you give my brother a fair shot in life and not be destroyed by something I did- it's not his fault and he shouldn't have to be punished for my actions.

No hard feelings on my side... sometimes an initial idea doesn't pan out and needs to go back to the drawing board, and you guys made me realize that.

Tombstone- I love the images you did. I'll give you other pictures to use if you want to expand your creativity.

AND AGAIN... Jason had NOTHING to do with BlabberMouth. He was just someone that I talked with when it was getting going, and he was listed as an "ORGANIZER", not an OWNER... so I request that you please leave him out of this, as he nor his family had nothing to do with the day-to-day operations. JUST ME.


Any-hoot... I'm out... Time for your victory dance in 3.... 2.... 1....



HushMoney 07-05-2012 03:04 PM

He obviously didn't think this all the way thru. Probably just added the number of profiles he put up, divided by 2 (i'm sure he was certain he'd get 50% to pay) times $200 and thought he'd make enough to cover his drug and hooker tab. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

potter 07-05-2012 03:30 PM

7 days... The internet pwns.

MrGusMuller 07-05-2012 03:53 PM

LOL!

I need to change my biz...
Gonna start a startup here in Portugal based on that biz model...
Do they franchise it for Portugal?

RobertRK 07-11-2012 12:45 PM

From KCSR...Man, those guys were thorough...

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...12022459_n.jpg

Owner shuts down Blabbermouthkc.com, citing huge backlash

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/07/05...outhkccom.html

Owner shuts down Blabbermouthkc.com, citing huge backlash
BY CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

Owner shuts down Blabbermouthkc.com, citing huge backlash

A website that published addresses and photographs of people arrested in Johnson County and offered to remove the embarrassing information for a fee shut down Thursday after a massive backlash.

Matthew Creed of Shawnee said the site would remain down indefinitely. He said he was working with possible investors and might restart it with a different focus and different name.

Creed, 30, said he received death threats and had to relocate his family, which includes two small children, after news spread about his website. Many people objected to his business concept and thought he was trying to profit off people already down on their luck.

?This guy is just a bottom-feeding vulture,? said Jay Norton, a lawyer in Johnson County who had clients featured on the website. ?The idea that he was trying to help the community is a total farce.?

Many people also questioned whether the site violated state laws. The Johnson County District Attorney?s office said Thursday it still was investigating.

When Creed started the site, Blabbermouthkc.com, in May, he said he thought he had found a legal way to publish mugshots and ask arrestees for up to $199.99 to delete the information. He sent letters to dozens of people arrested in May and June in envelopes with their mugshots printed on the outside next to the words: ?We know ??

The letters congratulated recipients on their recent release from jail and noted their arrests were ?obviously embarrassing to you and your family.?

?We have already started blabbing to the world about your release from jail, and we want to make you aware of our services, as we kind of have a big mouth,? the letters said.

If the recipients didn?t pay up, they risked having their neighborhoods flooded with fliers about their arrests, his letter said. The so-called ?blitz notification? would be triggered by a request from the public. No fliers were ever distributed.

He said he thought the system was workable but wondered whether people would gripe about it too much.

?And people griped about it way too much,? he said.

Creed said he knew he was delving into gray areas of the law but thought he remained on the right side of the legal line. If he restarts a similar business, he said he would ensure the model stays ?a lot farther away from the line.?

Creed posted a note admitting defeat Thursday on kcsr.org, a local message board. Its members had united against Creed after a member who had been featured on Blabbermouthkc.com posted the letter he received from Creed. The members said they thought Creed?s business model amounted to blackmail.

?You win,? Creed wrote. ?I?m sincerely sorry to have pissed so many people off, caused the trouble I did, and for everything else. ? Can?t change what?s been done ... the past is the past, and I apologize.?

He also asked kcsr.org?s owner to take down photos and personal information posted by message board members about Creed?s family members who had been arrested. Creed said he didn?t care whether the message board left up the information about his own 2010 DUI arrest, but he asked it not to punish his relatives.

?No hard feelings on my side ... sometimes an initial idea doesn?t pan out and needs to go back to the drawing board, and you guys made me realize that,? he wrote.

Creed said he intended for his website to deter crime by notifying the public about people who got arrested. His site allowed users to click on a map to check on their neighbors.

At one point the site featured more than 900 mugshots of people, most of whom had not been convicted. Many had been arrested for DUI, but some were arrested for failing to show up for court for simple traffic tickets.

One person said that her face was posted on the website after a charge against her had been dropped. The 43-year-old woman said the charge came about after she locked herself out of her home over the Memorial Day weekend and broke a window to get inside. Prior to breaking the window, she pounded on her door to awaken her boyfriend, and the ruckus caused a neighbor to call police.

She was booked into jail for criminal damage to property, but a judge dropped the charge within 12 hours.

Still, her mugshot was posted and remained on the website until this week. She was one of dozens of arrestees who received letters from Creed.

?It really did scare me when I got the letter,? said Stacie, who didn?t want her last name published because she didn?t want to be linked to a criminal act she hadn?t committed. ?I thought, ?I?m being blackmailed.?

?I know these are public record, but he made me feel like some sort of criminal. ? I didn?t think it could be legal.?

The letter recipient who posted his letter on kcsr.org said he wasn?t overly concerned about his DUI arrest being publicized. Instead, he was concerned that it felt like he was being blackmailed.

?It didn?t seem like he was doing it for the community,? he said. ?I didn?t need someone telling me I messed up. I already knew I messed up.?

As the firestorm about the letters grew, Creed pledged to send retraction letters to clarify that he wasn?t threatening anyone. But Creed never sent any retractions because he did not know everyone who received the first letters, he said Thursday. He said that a hacker corrupted all his files on Tuesday and that he had to buy a new laptop computer.

Creed initially planned to revamp the website to focus only on DUI, drug and sex offenders. He registered his website as a nonprofit organization and removed the neighborhood service, and made other changes. But this week he decided to pull the plug entirely.

He declined to say how many people paid him to remove their personal information. But the map on his website ? before it was shut down ? indicated people at seven addresses had paid.

Creed said he didn?t make any money off the website. Any funds received went to offset the start-up costs, he said.

He?s now considering a member-based ?safety-watch? type website, he said.

?Everything?s up in the air for now,? he said. ?There are so many different avenues that this thing can potentially go before I go back and brave the firestorm I did.?

Meanwhile, the owner of kcsr.org, Erik Razdins, remained cautious.

?If it (Creed?s website) truly is down, I think it?s a great victory,? he said.

To reach Christine Vendel, call 816-234-4438 or send email to [email protected].

Gozarian 07-11-2012 01:47 PM

He may have shut the site down but according to Kansas law he has some liability!

From the Kansas Open Records Act (KORA) FAQs

If I want to use a record that has names and/or addresses on it, so that I can contact the people listed in order to sell them something, may a public agency deny me access?

Yes. The public agency cannot provide you with those names and addresses if you want to use that list in order to contact those listed in an attempt to sell them a service or product. K.S.A. 45-230 prohibits giving or using information contained in public records for that purpose.

http://ag.ks.gov/legal-services/open-govt/kora-faq

Joe Obenberger 07-11-2012 04:42 PM

May God have mercy on his miserable soul. The people he hurt can't be expected to show any mercy. This guy makes the worst of the worst that we've each encountered in the adult Internet look like Boy Scouts. He went out of his way to hurt people.

lazycash 07-11-2012 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger (Post 19054506)
May God have mercy on his miserable soul. The people he hurt can't be expected to show any mercy. This guy makes the worst of the worst that we've each encountered in the adult Internet look like Boy Scouts. He went out of his way to hurt people.

I get the feeling though that he made his and his family's life a miserable hell with all the threats they got and having to move. I bet he was afraid to even venture out of the house and it just got to the point where he had close it down and hope people would leave him alone if he apologized.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:01 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123