Just Curious... For Those Actually in This Business

I think that it will make a difference, and that the resurgance may lead to some new marketing and content delivery stategies that may really get things back on track, in terms of revenues....


..... Having said that, I don't think it will be the way it was in 1998 to 2004....




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Things will never get back to the "good old days" level anymore as its simply impossible to a chief. It's also against all technological progress we have made since we can not reverse that.

Naw it's over.

Maybe Manwin will think up an idea to help the average webmaster make money again.

No but it can't hurt seeing them go.

If you look at other entertainments industries like music and films, even video games, the "good ole days" are gone forever.

What we're left with are a handful of major players, a "middle class" of semi-large players and a whole host of "little guys" who can get by quite nicely, depending on where they live, with $100k or so a year in income.

Shutting down this site or that, or implementing this piracy-killer technology or that digital fingerprinting solution or whatever will only "benefit" the largest players and a handful of 'medium'-sized companies. The "little guys" getting by comfortably on $100K a year won't see a differance because their volume/productivity isn't high enough to see a significant change in percentages.

So.....no.

[QUOTE=Barefootsies;19017301]Do you honestly believe, in your heart of hearts, that getting rid of file lockers, processors for them, and alike will actually put the online porn industry genie back into the bottle?

Nope.

By that I mean, considering the percentage of the industry (traffic, production, distribution) that Manwin now controls, do you think that there is going to be a resurgence in affiliates, or the middle class of the online industry? Or do you believe that certain elements of the "good ole days" are completely over?

RIP good old days. The aim is still the same. To create the best mousetrap possible to attract the joins, then make it Christmas everyday for the members and retain them for years. Beyond that, indeed, the good old days - as beautifully magical as they were - are long gone.

that's what I'm thinking

I think it would make a difference for sure.

But I believe some of our lack of sales is because of the recession, as well as the consumer has grown wiser. It will never be like 2004.

I was browsing through a number of sites this afternoon to get some ideas while brainstorming, and it was a sad case for porn surfers. It was like site after site of the same exact content, promo clips or whatever. Same advertising, same clips, same shit screaming at you, viagra, whatever.

Assuming they actually had anything that looked new, unique, or different you just got bounced around in a circle jerk. Unless you have to patience to click the same image 20 times, with live jasmin, fuck tube, and other howling at the moon pop ups going off... I can't see why anyone would put up with this just for FREE.

But I digress....

What inspired this question was reading some of Robbie and DWB's remarks in addition to the celebration of Oron and other sites being pulled, losing their processing, and alike. I mean, if you lose these sites, I suppose it's great to some degree.

However, the choices left in the marketplace are a handful of big programs, an enormous monolith, clips4sale, and some nichey folk who can still turn a decent buck. The rest seem to be traffic guys (the Miami conference was a good example of this).

Video Games is still incredible for little guys. apple store, android play and xbox live... Video games did an incredible job fighting piracy..

Movies people really want the experience of the theater and the highest quality picture and sound at home.

The internet has forced the Music industry to change drastically but it's become easier for more people to get into it to make money. Revenue streams were created thanks to the internet but at the same time very hurt by piracy.

Adult is straight fucked.

not a chance in hell

Are the good old days really gone for the film industry? Don't they continue to break box office records every time a new Avatar/Dark Knight/Whatever comes out?

You can't compare porn to any other industry. It's a tiny market of people who actually give a shit about the product.

Unlike movies, music, video games where it's the majority of the population who are able to emotionally connect and become almost obsessed with the content..

You all got cocky thinking "People love us!" when i reality it was "People are impulse shoppers."

It would help, but not bring back the glory days.