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  • blackmonsters
    Making PHP work
    • Nov 2002
    • 20966
    #1

    HTML5 and Mobile Video. What's the word?

    Months ago there was talk about HTML5 solving the issue with playing video on
    mobile devices. I worked with it a little but found that the video needed to be in
    3 different formats to implement it fully for all phones.

    Anyone using it with success?

    Anyone think that skipping HTML5 and instead providing a link to mp4 video is better?
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    • NaughtyRob
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      • Nov 2004
      • 29602
      #2
      What you said is correct, so far it still needs to be in three different formats when using HTML5 for mobile.
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        • LouiseLloyd
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          • Mar 2010
          • 1429
          #3
          I just use an mp4 with Videojs.com and not come across anything that it won't play on.

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            • fris
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Aug 2002
              • 55679
              #4
              and remmeber the order you put the html5 videos in is important, had a few clients who were doing it any order at random
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                • Tijuana_Tom
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • May 2011
                  • 668
                  #5
                  http://blog.zencoder.com/2010/10/06/...r-html5-video/

                  http://blog.zencoder.com/2010/09/30/...or-mobile-use/

                  Some good reads..

                  Edit: I'd read this also http://www.overdigital.com/2010/05/0...4-demystified/
                  Last edited by Tijuana_Tom; 06-21-2012, 11:08 AM.

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                    • blackmonsters
                      Making PHP work
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 20966
                      #6
                      Originally posted by fris
                      and remmeber the order you put the html5 videos in is important, had a few clients who were doing it any order at random
                      I don't see using it as realistic for me.

                      I have a limited amount of server space I can afford and I'm trying to compete with
                      sites with tons of content. To need 3x as much space is not going to work out for me.
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                        • vdbucks
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                          • Jul 2010
                          • 2773
                          #7
                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                          Months ago there was talk about HTML5 solving the issue with playing video on
                          mobile devices. I worked with it a little but found that the video needed to be in
                          3 different formats to implement it fully for all phones.

                          Anyone using it with success?

                          Anyone think that skipping HTML5 and instead providing a link to mp4 video is better?
                          I prefer linking to the mp4 directly because I prefer to use the mobile devices default video player as opposed to much smaller in line/browser playback...

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                            • Verbal
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                              • Dec 2001
                              • 3420
                              #8
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                                • TheSenator
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 13340
                                  #9
                                  mp4 seems to be working on all mobile phones...
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                                    • fris
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 55679
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by TheSenator
                                      mp4 seems to be working on all mobile phones...
                                      ya best to just stick to mp4 across the board.
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                                        • Markul
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                                          • Dec 2007
                                          • 12403
                                          #11
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                                            • CyberHustler
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                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 28736
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                              I don't see using it as realistic for me.

                                              I have a limited amount of server space I can afford and I'm trying to compete with
                                              sites with tons of content. To need 3x as much space is not going to work out for me.
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                                                • raymor
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 3745
                                                  #13
                                                  Both, with one file. Use the html5 <video> tag to embed your mpeg4, and have a direct link to the file. According to one source, IE9+,Chrome 4+, Safari 3.2+ and Android 2.1+ will show the embedded mp4. All others click the link.

                                                  I expect that in time the other browsers will support mpeg4 via <video>. You can also add Flash to play the mpeg4 when the browser can't play it directly since Flash can play mpeg4.
                                                  Last edited by raymor; 06-21-2012, 02:04 PM.
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                                                    • acctman
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                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 2840
                                                      #14
                                                      Html5 video is a pain the the fucking ass... It's suppose to make things easier but I don't see how needed 3 formats makes things easier than just having one .flv file. But they're pushing to get rid of flash go figure

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                                                        • Voodoo
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                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 10600
                                                          #15
                                                          http://flowplayer.org

                                                          Flash Player w/ HTML5 fallback.

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                                                            • raymor
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 3745
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by acctman
                                                              Html5 video is a pain the the fucking ass... It's suppose to make things easier but I don't see how needed 3 formats makes things easier than just having one .flv file. But they're pushing to get rid of flash go figure

                                                              Give it time. In 1996, Linux got IPv6 support. On April Fool's day 2001, I posted that the internet was being switched to IPv6 and it would be down for about an hour or two to switch it. In 2006, Windows got usable IPv6. In 2012, some ISPs will start to support it. That's sixteen years from being supported by server operating systems to actually being used. HTML 5 may take a year or two to stabilize with specific codecs.
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                                                                • livexxx
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                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                  • 1201
                                                                  #17
                                                                  yes correct fallback is important if its a responsive design you are building, less so if you are providing just a pure mobile option. encoding .com is also good as alterrnative to zencoder. I like this one as well to deliver to iphone and android http://chall32.blogspot.co.uk/2011/0...or-iphone.html

                                                                  also a good sniffer, iphoners have more money than android owners , cos they have to pay stiff monthlies to own it. dont forget the tel: and sms: html tags as well to launch their phone or text services rather than send them to a stupid credit card payment page.
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                                                                    • Vendzilla
                                                                      Biker Gnome
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 23200
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Voodoo
                                                                      http://flowplayer.org

                                                                      Flash Player w/ HTML5 fallback.

                                                                      </end>
                                                                      Exactly what I did, but only with my droid so far
                                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                      think about that

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                                                                        • Voodoo
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                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                          • 10600
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                          Exactly what I did, but only with my droid so far
                                                                          Flowplayer works w/ iPhone with the auto html5 fallback that is integrated.

                                                                          "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 23200
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Voodoo
                                                                              Flowplayer works w/ iPhone with the auto html5 fallback that is integrated.
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                                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                              think about that

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                                                                                • xenigo
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 8067
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I'm running the JW Player Wordpress plugin using HTML5 and a Flash fallback... using only an MP4 file and it works great. Tested on both iOS and Android. Works perfectly.

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                                                                                    • Konda
                                                                                      ...
                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                      • 2280
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Just use JW player with .mp4 and lighttpd

                                                                                      It has html5 fallback, so when a user or device doesn't have flash it will automatically play in html5

                                                                                      It works in all browsers and all modern smartphones (iphone, android, ipad etc)

                                                                                      no need to have multiple .mp4 versions

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                                                                                        • sai
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 89
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Do i need to pay for JW Player license to use on commercial member site ?

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