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MPGdevil 06-19-2012 05:52 AM
Although I like my Asus Eee Pad Transformer I see a lot of advantages with the Surface and Surface Pro.

It is thinner and even the Surface Pro weight less than the Asus tablets + dock. The touch cover is a simple and elegant keyboard solution imo.

Then of course difference being able to run windows programs besides apps.
If true it will be able to run Solidworks and Autodesk software (at any acceptable level), then I am sold.

Digital Ink - nice extra feature.

All in all I am excited to try one of these. The biggest issue as I see it with this early introduction is the long wait and extra 3 months delay for the Surface Pro. Hopefully a nice xmas present though.

jigg 06-19-2012 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 19013076)
why is microsoft even releasing hardware? Have they run out of ideas to steal on the software end?
because their OEMs have been asleep for too long
because their OEMs can't or don't seem to get out a product that not some ugly, plastic laden device
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DamianJ 06-19-2012 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 19013101)
If true it will be able to run Solidworks and Autodesk software (at any acceptable level), then I am sold.
You already can on iOS and android.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...12&id=16953811

http://blogs.solidworks.com/solidwor...d-android.html

jigg 06-19-2012 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19013045)
How is this going to change the OEM market?

So the OEMs have to buy win8, and now make something with magnets.

Or they could build an android device. Seems a simple decision when you think about the bottom line...
Android?
Why would OEMs make yet another Android device (most of them do that by the way Asus, Toshiba)?

Android isn't free, it comes with licensing and development costs too. Has no patent protection like they can get from Microsoft. Google will have their own tablet soon like they have a phone. And Apple is going to rape anyone if it looks anything like the iPad.

And then then you have Samsung, doubling down on their own OS...

tony286 06-19-2012 06:03 AM
To me if you got to bring a bunch of accessories. Minds well just bring a laptop. I got the ipad 3 its ok to read on it but it gets heavy after a while. Kindle comes out with a lit e reader, I will probably sell my ipad and get one.I got a kindle 3 and its joy to read on. Since I put a ssd in my acer timeline laptop , I avg 6 hrs on the battery. Having the tablet also is like over kill especially when you throw in the evo 4lte and couple of computers. its like how many fucking internet devices does one really need? lol

tony286 06-19-2012 06:06 AM
The problem I have with android is everyone puts there own face on it. So you got to learn a new system from one device from another. I had a samsung 2 then got the evo 4 lte and I know how to do nothing in it. I can buy any window computer and know what Im going the moment I turn it on.

MPGdevil 06-19-2012 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19013107)
Will take a look at these, thanks.

DamianJ 06-19-2012 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jigg (Post 19013117)
Android?
Why would OEMs make yet another Android device (most of them do that by the way Asus, Toshiba)?
Because it is miles cheaper than licensing windows, and you don't need to make all the magnetic bits you need for the cover to work. It seems to me like a way to tell all the OEMs to fuck off.

jigg 06-19-2012 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19012969)
The trouble I see with this Surface thing is that it's a tablet/computer built by committee which usually means it wont play in any role particularly well.

In the case of the Pro unit, it will have big issues with applications that push the processing limits of the computer and users who don't know better will bitch and moan about it not being up to their tasks. Anything processor intensive will kill battery life, which will upset more people.

In the case of the RT unit might be nice and snazzy but without a rich application store users will constantly be forced to compare their experience to that of content spoilt iPad users and to a lesser extent Android users.

Being everything to everybody rarely ever works. People who find the pro unit underpowered or the keyboard crap will gravitate back to ultrabooks. People who find the RT unit lacking in content will end up going to Android or iPad.

I think Microsoft have entirely missed the point of tablets and this product will fail ultimately.
Have friends that work at Apple stores.
I hear stories about "users who don't know better" every day, that bought something don't know how to use it and throwing tantrums, cussing and so on.

It will come down to the apps for sure. But Windows 8 no matter how some of us power users hate it, will still sell fairly well so developers will probably move faster on apps since they'll have access to a few hundred million customers.

Surface is a tablet, like an iPad with a keyboard addon which a lot of people seem to want

I'm reserving judgement on Surface PRO until I see specs but I will probably get one instead of an Ultrabook for the multi-tasking alone

jigg 06-19-2012 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19013135)
Because it is miles cheaper than licensing windows, and you don't need to make all the magnetic bits you need for the cover to work. It seems to me like a way to tell all the OEMs to fuck off.
you don't know what it costs to license Windows, nobody but the OEMs know. There are costs associated with Android too, it's not like they just download it and slap it on a device.

OEMs don't like Google buying Motorola and building the Nexus. Apple has shown them they'd go after them for every minute thing they can score a point on (and have the war chest to do it) so we're still yet to see how things would shake out

SomeCreep 06-19-2012 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 19012987)
Damn, after watching that, I think in 5 years Microsoft will be a company half it's current size. How can they not know that product is destined to fail? They really need a new CEO. Ballmer has done enough damage.

DamianJ 06-19-2012 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jigg (Post 19013151)
you don't know what it costs to license Windows, nobody but the OEMs know.

£78

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/3515...t-oem-versions

Or 85 bucks

http://winsource.com/2012/06/14/how-...cost-for-oems/

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Originally Posted by jigg (Post 19013151)
There are costs associated with Android too, it's not like they just download it and slap it on a device.

How much do you think the licence for Android costs?

AdultKing 06-19-2012 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 19013224)
Damn, after watching that, I think in 5 years Microsoft will be a company half it's current size. How can they not know that product is destined to fail? They really need a new CEO. Ballmer has done enough damage.
Great launch strategy, launch now, finish product later. :1orglaugh

Other companies like to build up hype to a launch date and the reveal their product which will be available at a certain price at a certain (very near or instant) timeframe.

All Microsoft have achieved is to give their competitors six months grace to do something else.

DamianJ 06-19-2012 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 19013224)
Damn, after watching that, I think in 5 years Microsoft will be a company half it's current size. How can they not know that product is destined to fail? They really need a new CEO. Ballmer has done enough damage.
The sad part is they've been trying to sell tablet PCs for about 12 years. And failed. Then they see what Apple do, miss the point totally, and try and combine a laptop and a tablet.

It's sad, they should be able to do it, I'd love to see more competition in the marketplace, but this is what happens with design by committee I guess.

MPGdevil 06-19-2012 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19013135)
Because it is miles cheaper than licensing windows, and you don't need to make all the magnetic bits you need for the cover to work.
They don't need to design their tablets for the Microsoft touch cover. Asus already made their own keyboard/dock solutions.

Still have to judge the feel by myself, but from the video the touch cover looks like a pretty slick solution to me. Quite a kick in the nuts for competition and rest of announced Windows 8 tablets.

Will see when time comes.


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