Mike South, you playing games now?

http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17873308&postcount=75

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17423817&postcount=136

Has anyone here seen the pictures of Damian in Thailand?

Paul, I asked for a quote where I am pro piracy, not some where I am anti-stupidty.

Thanks for trying though, it's so sweet you spent your "retirement" desperately searching through GFY and came up with nothing at all. So much so you had to include a quote from B&B!

Lollage.

Lots of people saw the thailand pictures, someone even took one of them as his avatar.

Bless you and your constant public fails.

You really do amuse me. Thanks.

DamianJ nobody here believes piracy will completely disappear but accessing it can become enough of a hassle for mentalities to shift.

a siterip will always live on a torrent somewhere, no doubt about it, but most have two seeders and take a week to download. it's no comparison to the punk with terabytes of content on a dedicated server automatically uploading to file lockers while his postbot sends the links to every forum in existence.

and if piracy can't be slowed at all so what? watching those cunts scramble for payment processors is a joy in itself

I am confused as to why you think the porn industry can do something that the MPAA and RIAA have failed to do?

It's a waste of time and money. Look at how much the MPAA and RIAA spent. Look at how much the War on Drugs has cost.

Use the time and money wasted fighting an unwinnable war on making better product, better service and better marketing. You'll see more of a ROI. That's really my only point.

Because some people in the "porn industry" are maybe more dedicated to the idea that something can be done - unlike you, it sounds like you've given up before you even tried, but no doubt you'll not wait one second to also enjoy the success when it happens

One thing actually includes the other. Believe me - I see your point, I do.

But you see the thing is, you can't win a war by planting pretty flowers - you actually have to kick those in the balls that keep stepping on your pretty flowers in the first place.

If you disagree with that - I'm sorry but then you really do not understand how fighting a war works in the first place.

Sure but any product is only better comparatively to another.

by relegating free porn to torrents, proxy lists, TOR or 5 minutes tubes clips you are also making memberships sites comparatively better.

We are stuck in a circle jerk discussion because we are talking about two different things. File sharing and for profit piracy. The former which the MPAA and RIAA threw money at is here to stay, the latter has Achilles heels and their business can take a significant nose dive by taking simple action.

Let's pretend, for a minute, you could stop for profit piracy (you can't, but let's pretend you can). What do you think will happen then?

I'll tell you, it will just be like before file lockers started. Torrents, usenet, irc, private ftp, forums etc will just take over again.

All file lockers did was make it slightly technically easier for noobs to pirate stuff and made a few people rich.

Removal of that aspect of piracy will not have any real impact in people sharing copyrighted content that they shouldn't be sharing.

I think, like the war on drugs, history has proven the war on piracy is unwinnable.

Therefore, what is the point of fighting an unwinnable war?

The amount of muscle, money and lobbying the RIAA and MPAA have combined makes the porn industry look like a joke in comparison. They failed.

And that is your prerogative.

Instead of giving up before trying - maybe we should learn from history and not repeat the same mistake others, that have in your eyes failed, made.

twwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

(that is the sound of the ref whistle I just blew to stop play and make a call on the field...)

The call on the field is HOLDING DamianJ as being pro-piracy, which he is not. Accusing him of being pro-piracy is going to result in a loss of yardage for the anti-tube team of 15 yards of credibility. An additional minor penalty against Markham will be assessed for DELAY OF GAME, for a loss of another 10 yards.

Play will resume on the whistle.

tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt.

Usenet, irc, private ftp results don't rank on every google result.

Nothing will stop file sharing. but as you said yourself it's all about visibility and convenience.

btw this is what happens to a file locker when it stops paying per download..

And all those users have totally stopped pirating content, right?

Oh wait, of course they haven't, they've just gone someplace else to steal the shit they think they should get for free...

I'm actually trying to talk about the possibilities in the future. Not when someone failed at in the past or things that have no true relevance to the porn industry. I'm looking forward, not backwards, on this problem. What someone else failed at is of no concern to me other than acknowledging where they failed so it is not repeated.

In the meantime, those stuck in their pirate ways only want to argue about what can't be done because it wasn't achieved before. That is typical of people who don't achieve much in life because they are not forward thinkers or problem solvers.

I strongly have faith in things we do not yet know about or even are thinking of. We don't know what WIPO may evolve into or what law enforcement may have up their sleeves. We don't know if DMCA will change, or even if new laws will pass to govern the internet on an international level. We simply don't know. But since the world will always need ditch diggers and magicians, I suppose there is a use for the other way of thinking as well.

10 years ago did you think you would be using touch screens on your phone, or that your phone could shoot HD video? Hell no you didn't. Things change. Innovations happen. Possibilities are endless. Thus my stance on hoping the future is one without piracy as we see it today.


THAT was a funny post.

And yea, he is totally pro-piracy. No one in their right mind would argue endlessly about this subject, always in support of ANY and ALL anti-piracy measures failing, without having any skin in the game whatsoever, unless they were knee deep in the middle of it.

He's just like Gideon. People who are so hell bent on arguing on behalf of the pirates, are either pro-piracy or total loons who probably expose themselves to blind people.

I respect your point of view but I think you contradict yourself by promoting the benefits of visibility, convenience and marketing then saying pushing piracy back to a much less mainstream place like usenet or irc is useless.

You can choose to believe me or not but since oron lost it's paypal and made their affiliate program invite only the s.e asian content I come across by search is a tenth of what it use to.

Anyway, we are starting to have a Paul Markham type conversation, which let's face it is pretty useless, so I'll leave it at that.

This thread is WAY TO LONG TO READ!

CLIFF NOTES ANYONE?