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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635
    #351
    Originally posted by WarChild
    Just FYI, INTERPOL doesn't actually "chase" anybody down. They don't have a jail, or officers out making busts or anything like that. It's essentially just an administrative organization facilitating cooperation amongst the member states police agencies.
    That is correct. It is not like people see in the movies.

    Additionally, Interpol does not get involved unless your local/state/fed law enforcement make a request directly to them. You have to submit a report there, and if you're lucky... your county has someone who deals with internet bullshit. If not, you will just get bounced around until you have to write the state attorney general, and then they assign it to the state police or ICE. That is the FBI division that deals with computer crimes.

    Sadly I know all of this because I've had to go through all of these steps, and agencies, because of some of the psychotics who frequent GFY and think their internet gangster crap has no limits.

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      • The Porn Nerd
        Living The Dream
        • Jun 2009
        • 19784
        #352
        Why can't we all get along?
        Is it because this "industry" is filled with people who couldn't get a job doing anything else?

        Just sayin'.
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          • plsureking
            bored
            • Aug 2003
            • 4900
            #353
            wow. good read and surprising mental breakdown by the OP. i'm seeing the cracks in the Manwin foundation that many predicted. expand too fast and your little balloon will pop...

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              • Tijuana_Tom
                So Fucking Banned
                • May 2011
                • 668
                #354
                You ever seen Mike South?

                Bag of bones if he didn't play games he wouldn't get any action.

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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 42635
                    #355
                    Originally posted by Tijuana_Tom
                    You ever seen Mike South?
                    Yep. I saw him in Miami. When people call him the "Mouth of the South" and it conjurers up the mental image of the southerner you see on TV waving a confederate flag, that's him. At least that is what he reminds me of when I look at him physically.

                    I am not saying he is a backwater ignorant hick by any means. I hear the dude used to work for NASA or some shit. Unless he was a janitor, I would assume he is a smart guy by default.

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                      • plsureking
                        bored
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 4900
                        #356
                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                        Your whole post was great and obviously you've thought about all of this alot, and refined your thoughts.
                        i agree. i pretty much like anything DWB posts. why doesn't GFY have a 'like' button? this board is an antique..

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                          • mikesouth
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 6334
                            #357
                            LOL I did work at NASA and I wasnt da janitor....I did relational db design and implementation and OOM (mid 80s to 90s)

                            As for my life...Im thrilled with it, anyone knows me very well knows the LONG list of A List pornchicks and stripper magazine model types I have dated OFF Camera...

                            And still do I might add....

                            meanwhile I will now turn this thread back over to Paul
                            Mike South

                            It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635
                                #358
                                Originally posted by mikesouth
                                LOL I did work at NASA and I wasnt da janitor....I did relational db design and implementation and OOM (mid 80s to 90s)
                                ...as I said. One smart cookie fine sire.

                                Should You Email Your Members?

                                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                Enough Said.

                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                  • Paul Markham
                                    Too old to care
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 52942
                                    #359
                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                    True. Took the entire heat off his dumb ass completely.
                                    Thread is completely derailed.

                                    Paul must be on the Manwin payroll.
                                    I ask Fabian hard questions he doesn't answer. The idiots and ass kissers ask nothing and derail the thread.

                                    So let's get back to asking FT hard questions.

                                    Can he tell us where the 9 figure loan has gone.
                                    Can he tell us which offices hold how many staff.
                                    Can we ask him how many floors they have in the Montreal office.
                                    Can he allow a non ass kisser to verify his figures.

                                    The question of where the money came from to buy MW will never be answered, like the question of where the 9 figure loan came from. We can ask him when it will be spent and where. Like we can ask him to prove the figure of employees they state.

                                    I caught him out with his knowledge of how much office space he has in Montreal, idiots and ass kissers focused on a side quip to avoid him answering the real questions.

                                    OK we know he doesn't listen to him PR lady. Maybe he would like to give me her phone number so I can verify she exists.



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                                      • Paul Markham
                                        Too old to care
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 52942
                                        #360
                                        Originally posted by tony286
                                        songs cost a dollar on itunes and they still pirate it. People tried cheap sites for years and they never took off. Lens tried it , I had a Boss when I worked at a lingerie modeling place over 15 yrs ago. Had a pay site $5 a month and it made nothing. As the success of the clips 4 sale model shows people will pay and pay close to what they pay for a whole month for one scene. It being too expensive is the excuse
                                        Try putting a Brazzers scene on C4S and see how well it sells. Or any of the mass market, mass pirated porn. C4S is essentially Ma & Pa operations and porn that isn't every where online.

                                        The day I see a C4S advert on PH is the day we can look at the C4S sales model.

                                        Here's a way to slash costs and split test the models.

                                        Offer affiliates the options of driving traffic to a site with two tours. Tour A the traditional model.

                                        Tour B. Cut affiliate payouts and support to the bone to save money. Sell cheap memberships or/and single scenes from the sample clips featured on the tour. The sample clips could revolve every time a surfers lands on the site, to offer lots of different options for the single sales. Maybe offer 3 for the price of two type discounts.

                                        Now affiliates can choose what tour they promote and see if the extra sales will cover the drop in their revenue.

                                        Anyone is welcome to tinker with this idea of adapting the iTunes micro payment solution.



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                                          • DWB
                                            Registered User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 31779
                                            #361
                                            Originally posted by WarChild
                                            Just FYI, INTERPOL doesn't actually "chase" anybody down. They don't have a jail, or officers out making busts or anything like that. It's essentially just an administrative organization facilitating cooperation amongst the member states police agencies.
                                            That is not totally accurate. They have agents who run people down but leave the arresting to the local law enforcement. But you are correct, they don't have a jail. Instead they deport people to their home country. They have an INTERPOL office here in Thailand, complete with agents who are running people down on behalf of governments of the citizens who have had warrants issued for them. However, once found, it is the Thai police who arrest them, but INTERPOL does all the footwork and is right there during the arrest. They just don't physically do it themselves.

                                            Example, you live in some island in the Caribbean. You are a citizen of Scotland and they issue an arrest warrant for you. They give that to INTERPOL who tracks you down with the help of the local island police, and the local police arrest you, turn you over to INTERPOL who then deports you back to Scotland. They can also issue their own arrest warrants.

                                            INTERPOL could very well be used to hunt pirates if arrest warrants were issued for them. And the warrant doesn't necessarily have to come from their home country.


                                            Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                            That is correct. It is not like people see in the movies.

                                            Additionally, Interpol does not get involved unless your local/state/fed law enforcement make a request directly to them. You have to submit a report there, and if you're lucky... your county has someone who deals with internet bullshit. If not, you will just get bounced around until you have to write the state attorney general, and then they assign it to the state police or ICE. That is the FBI division that deals with computer crimes.

                                            Sadly I know all of this because I've had to go through all of these steps, and agencies, because of some of the psychotics who frequent GFY and think their internet gangster crap has no limits.

                                            See post above. However, you are correct in the fact that they do not operate totally on on their own. They do have their own wanted list that they hunt, but they usually act on behalf of the country the criminal is from.

                                            I get to see them in action all the time. They are assisting the Thais to arrest people left and right here. Pattaya is a notorious haven for criminals on the run.

                                            INTERPOL is getting deeper into cybercrime and digital security starting in 2014. No telling where that is going to lead, but my guess is they wouldn't be getting involved with the internet unless they have been given some power on an international level to do so.

                                            From INTERPOL's website:

                                            "The abuse of communication technologies such as the Internet are often complex and global in nature and require an equally complex and global response."
                                            I know Damian will still refuse to believe that anyone can operate with a global response, HOW ABOUT WE NOT SAY THESE THINGS
                                            Last edited by Eric; 06-20-2012, 01:25 PM.

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                                              • Jel
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2007
                                                • 6904
                                                #362
                                                Originally posted by plsureking
                                                i pretty much like anything DWB posts.

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                                                  • DamianJ
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                    • 15808
                                                    #363
                                                    Originally posted by WarChild
                                                    Just FYI, INTERPOL doesn't actually "chase" anybody down. They don't have a jail, or officers out making busts or anything like that. It's essentially just an administrative organization facilitating cooperation amongst the member states police agencies.
                                                    Course they don't. DWB got annoyed at me pointing out the truth, so did some name calling and lying.

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                                                      • DamianJ
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2006
                                                        • 15808
                                                        #364
                                                        Originally posted by DWB
                                                        I know Damian will still refuse to believe that anyone can operate with a global response, so I'm still waiting for his child porn site to go online so he can test his theory.
                                                        Why didn't the MPAA and RIAA use INTERPOL then?

                                                        Oh yes, because you're wrong.

                                                        Where's your proof I am involved in illegal activity?

                                                        Hate to get you banned too. Really. That would be awful.

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                                                          • DamianJ
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                            • 15808
                                                            #365
                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            Last post to you, and not even sure why I'm wasting my time on this one. It is painfully clear you not only support piracy, but you are probably a massive, freeloading, pirate yourself. Wouldn't be surprised if you own a file locker full of nasty content. Your pro-piracy ramblings have become as bad as Gideons.
                                                            Please quote one thing I've said that is pro-piracy. Just one.

                                                            Stop lying, kid. I know it's frustrating when I prove you to be wrong, but lying and name calling isn't a way to convince others of your argument. Just makes it look like you've lost.


                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            INTERPOL, none. You said there "no global law enforcers." You were wrong.
                                                            They don't enforce law. And there is no global law. Sorry to break it to you.

                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            But that doesn't mean they couldn't in the future.
                                                            There is no global law.


                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            None of us have any idea what plans are being made for future raids,arrests, and seizures, and who is going to do them. While the FBI may not be able to chase someone down in China, INTERPOL can if they needed to. It just hasn't gone that far yet. Maybe it won't. But then again, maybe it will.
                                                            So it's not happened ever, and your evidence that it can is that you say "it might"?

                                                            You're bad at this, aren't you?


                                                            Originally posted by DWB

                                                            There are international treaties between many countries currently. More could be added in a blink of an eye, even though it would break your heart.
                                                            So, the MPAA and RIAA with billions and billions and public sympathy failed to do that. And you think some porn monkeys will?

                                                            Hilarious, really!

                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            There are international banking rules and regulations, and most of them are created by the USA. If they can strong arm international banks, registrars (or any other internet organization) don't stand a chance.

                                                            So, the MPAA and RIAA with billions and billions and public sympathy failed to do that. And you think some porn monkeys will?

                                                            Hilarious, really!



                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            That is not the point. The point is their domains were seized by the FBI.
                                                            The point is that achieved NOTHING as they were up and running again within hours. It was a joke.

                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            Stay on topic. You asked for how things could be done and I told you. The FBI seizes domains and they could take oron or any other should they see fit to do so. If they reopen or not is anyone's guess. And then they could take those domains if they wanted to.
                                                            This has been tried and failed. And there were hundred of domains seized incorrectly. It was a total fuck up and achieved NOTHING to stop piracy.


                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            So what if they reopened?
                                                            So it was pointless and achieved nothing. Do *try* and keep up, kid.


                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            The USA changed banking laws so it's more difficult to gamble and illegal for US citizens.
                                                            And now no one gambles online in America?

                                                            Fucking LOL!

                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            You clearly have no real understanding of the full reach of US law and what they will do when they want something.
                                                            And you clearly just like to imagine things that aren't true.


                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            You would know.
                                                            Yes, it was in the news and stuff.

                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            Why didn't Megaupload reopen? Clue: The local authorities sized all their shit because the US government told them to.
                                                            What impact has megaupload had on piracy? None. Except educating people about the existance of file lockers.

                                                            And he is going to walk anyway.

                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            But if you want to get technical, they were just trying to stop piracy.
                                                            They didn't though.

                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                            BTW... you're quite the little girl for running to Eric or Theo today to have Euker banned.
                                                            There are rules here. Accusing the ASACP of being scammers is something you get banned for.

                                                            And accusing me of illegal activity with no proof is something you should be banned for. We'll see.

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                                                              • DamianJ
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                • 15808
                                                                #366
                                                                Originally posted by tony286
                                                                songs cost a dollar on itunes and they still pirate it.
                                                                You could flip that...

                                                                You can pirate any music you want for free with google. And yet people still pay a dollar for a song...

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                                                                  • DWB
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 31779
                                                                    #367
                                                                    *yawn*

                                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                    Why didn't the MPAA and RIAA use INTERPOL then?

                                                                    Oh yes, because you're wrong.
                                                                    Why would they have used INTERPOL?

                                                                    Comments like that just hows you have no idea what INTERPOL does. You should stick to performing magic shows for little kids and being a pirate fluffer.

                                                                    BTW... where is that cp site? Hurry up and get that online so you can test your theory of being untouchable.


                                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                    Course they don't. DWB got annoyed at me pointing out the truth, so did some name calling and lying.
                                                                    INTERPOL does exactly what I said they do in my reply to Warchild.

                                                                    No lying needed. You're as pro-piracy as Gideon and everyone sees it. If he wouldn't have been outed, I would have continued thinking you were him.


                                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                    Where's your proof I am involved in illegal activity?

                                                                    Hate to get you banned too. Really. That would be awful.
                                                                    Knock yourself out.

                                                                    Now run along like a little whiny bitch and cry to mods to help you, again.

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                                                                      • DWB
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 31779
                                                                        #368
                                                                        Originally posted by DamianJ

                                                                        There are rules here. Accusing the ASACP of being scammers is something you get banned for.

                                                                        And accusing me of illegal activity with no proof is something you should be banned for. We'll see.

                                                                        ASACP is a joke who doesn't do anything unless it involves pre-teen porn. That came from Joan herself when she was running it.

                                                                        As far as a scam, it's possible. Most organizations connected to the adult industry are.

                                                                        Your own words are enough to know that you are a freeloading fiend. But like I said, cry as hard as you can and maybe mommy will help you. Wouldn't want her little boy to get butt hurt on the playground, again.

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                                                                          • DamianJ
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                            • 15808
                                                                            #369
                                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                                            *yawn*
                                                                            Thought you said you weren't replying to me anymore?

                                                                            *sigh*

                                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                                            BTW... where is that cp site? Hurry up and get that online so you can test your theory of being untouchable.
                                                                            Yes, there are no CP sites online at all.

                                                                            Oh wait, of course there are. You are really bad at this, aren't you?


                                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                                            No lying needed. You're as pro-piracy as Gideon and everyone sees it.
                                                                            Just post *one* quote from me that is pro-piracy. Just one.

                                                                            Saying that someone is pro-piracy because they are anti-stupidity is like saying someone is black because they are anti-apartheid.

                                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                                            Now run along like a little whiny bitch and cry to mods to help you, again.
                                                                            It could be avoided if you stopped posting lies about me, or at least posted proof of my involvement in illegal activities.

                                                                            But you can't. Because you are just a nasty little liar, who when presented with an argument that you cannot argue against you name call and lie.

                                                                            It's sweet you think that you can do what the RIAA and MPAA have failed to do, but when you realise that you can't, there's no need to take out your frustration on me, kid.

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                                                                              • DamianJ
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                • 15808
                                                                                #370
                                                                                Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                Your own words are enough to know that you are a freeloading fiend.
                                                                                Sadly, according to the rules here, you need to provide proof of that or be banned.

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                                                                                  • Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                    Barterer
                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                    • 4864
                                                                                    #371
                                                                                    Is it piracy if you don't share ?

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                                                                                      • DWB
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 31779
                                                                                        #372

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                                                                                          • DamianJ
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                            • 15808
                                                                                            #373
                                                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                            And your proof of my being involved in illegal activities is where?

                                                                                            I'm *trying* to help you out here, kid.

                                                                                            Just post the proof. Whilst you still are allowed to post...

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                                                                                              • Jel
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Feb 2007
                                                                                                • 6904
                                                                                                #374
                                                                                                what a fucking girl. wah wah wah.

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                                                                                                  • DamianJ
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                    • 15808
                                                                                                    #375
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                    what a fucking girl. wah wah wah.
                                                                                                    Please Jel, I beg of you, put me back on ignore. Why torment yourself like this?

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                                                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                                        • 52942
                                                                                                        #376
                                                                                                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                        Please quote one thing I've said that is pro-piracy. Just one.
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Damian
                                                                                                        You are so awesome with your straw man arguments. Heh.

                                                                                                        No-one said Brazzers do not make money from stealing content and putting it on a tube site Pauly, did they?

                                                                                                        I said it wasn't worth bothering trying to stop piracy because it doesn't represent a lost sale.

                                                                                                        The RIAA recently agreed with me. You like them, so you must now agree with them?

                                                                                                        Of course, as no one even wants to pirate your content, so it's kind of a non-issue for you. Cory Doctorow said obscurity is worse that piracy. He's right. Shame you don't make stuff even worth nicking.
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Damian
                                                                                                        I guess they were clever enough to realise that piracy doesn't represent a lost sale and concentrated on other things.

                                                                                                        Originally posted by Damian
                                                                                                        Were they called Ye Olde Brazzers?

                                                                                                        I find it interesting that the printing press was originally thought of as "piracy".

                                                                                                        People who are failing love to blame something. Why not blame piracy, rather than say, "being shit"? Much easier!

                                                                                                        Originally posted by Damian
                                                                                                        Sad thing is, I think that's true. And I believe you do think you're annoying me. Whereas the truth is that since Gary was banned, and xcite left the biz, and Phil just posts once a month you're the only thing I like about this place.

                                                                                                        Isn't it funny that I love you being here, I love laughing at you thinking amazon makes most of its sales offline. I LOVE how you claim programmes spend 70% of their turnover on traffic. You are almost as stupid as the other three.

                                                                                                        But you are easier to wind up.

                                                                                                        And you think you annoy me?

                                                                                                        Brilliant.

                                                                                                        You are comedy gold and I hope you never, ever leave.
                                                                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17873308&postcount=75

                                                                                                        http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17423817&postcount=136

                                                                                                        Has anyone here seen the pictures of Damian in Thailand?



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                                                                                                          • DamianJ
                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                                            • 15808
                                                                                                            #377
                                                                                                            Paul, I asked for a quote where I am pro piracy, not some where I am anti-stupidty.

                                                                                                            Thanks for trying though, it's so sweet you spent your "retirement" desperately searching through GFY and came up with nothing at all. So much so you had to include a quote from B&B!

                                                                                                            Lollage.

                                                                                                            Lots of people saw the thailand pictures, someone even took one of them as his avatar.

                                                                                                            Bless you and your constant public fails.

                                                                                                            You really do amuse me. Thanks.
                                                                                                            Last edited by DamianJ; 06-20-2012, 04:46 AM.

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                                                                                                              • Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                • 2512
                                                                                                                #378
                                                                                                                DamianJ nobody here believes piracy will completely disappear but accessing it can become enough of a hassle for mentalities to shift.

                                                                                                                a siterip will always live on a torrent somewhere, no doubt about it, but most have two seeders and take a week to download. it's no comparison to the punk with terabytes of content on a dedicated server automatically uploading to file lockers while his postbot sends the links to every forum in existence.

                                                                                                                and if piracy can't be slowed at all so what? watching those cunts scramble for payment processors is a joy in itself

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                                                                                                                  • DamianJ
                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                    • 15808
                                                                                                                    #379
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                    DamianJ nobody here believes piracy will completely disappear but accessing it can become enough of a hassle for mentalities to shift.
                                                                                                                    I am confused as to why you think the porn industry can do something that the MPAA and RIAA have failed to do?

                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                    and if piracy can't be slowed at all so what?
                                                                                                                    It's a waste of time and money. Look at how much the MPAA and RIAA spent. Look at how much the War on Drugs has cost.

                                                                                                                    Use the time and money wasted fighting an unwinnable war on making better product, better service and better marketing. You'll see more of a ROI. That's really my only point.

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                                                                                                                      • JOKER
                                                                                                                        Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                        • 2105
                                                                                                                        #380
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                                        I am confused as to why you think the porn industry can do something that the MPAA and RIAA have failed to do?
                                                                                                                        Because some people in the "porn industry" are maybe more dedicated to the idea that something can be done - unlike you, it sounds like you've given up before you even tried, but no doubt you'll not wait one second to also enjoy the success when it happens

                                                                                                                        Originally posted by DamianJ

                                                                                                                        It's a waste of time and money. Look at how much the MPAA and RIAA spent.

                                                                                                                        Use the time and money wasted fighting an unwinnable war on making better product, better service and better marketing. You'll see more of a ROI. That's really my only point.
                                                                                                                        One thing actually includes the other. Believe me - I see your point, I do.

                                                                                                                        But you see the thing is, you can't win a war by planting pretty flowers - you actually have to kick those in the balls that keep stepping on your pretty flowers in the first place.

                                                                                                                        If you disagree with that - I'm sorry but then you really do not understand how fighting a war works in the first place.
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                                                                                                                          • Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                            • 2512
                                                                                                                            #381
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                                            Use the time and money wasted fighting an unwinnable war on making better product, better service and better marketing. You'll see more of a ROI. That's really my only point.
                                                                                                                            Sure but any product is only better comparatively to another.

                                                                                                                            by relegating free porn to torrents, proxy lists, TOR or 5 minutes tubes clips you are also making memberships sites comparatively better.

                                                                                                                            We are stuck in a circle jerk discussion because we are talking about two different things. File sharing and for profit piracy. The former which the MPAA and RIAA threw money at is here to stay, the latter has Achilles heels and their business can take a significant nose dive by taking simple action.

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                                                                                                                              • DamianJ
                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                • 15808
                                                                                                                                #382
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                We are stuck in a circle jerk discussion because we are talking about two different things. File sharing and for profit piracy. The former which the MPAA and RIAA threw money at is here to stay, the latter has Achilles heels and their business can take a significant nose dive by taking simple action.
                                                                                                                                Let's pretend, for a minute, you could stop for profit piracy (you can't, but let's pretend you can). What do you think will happen then?

                                                                                                                                I'll tell you, it will just be like before file lockers started. Torrents, usenet, irc, private ftp, forums etc will just take over again.

                                                                                                                                All file lockers did was make it slightly technically easier for noobs to pirate stuff and made a few people rich.

                                                                                                                                Removal of that aspect of piracy will not have any real impact in people sharing copyrighted content that they shouldn't be sharing.

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                                                                                                                                  • DamianJ
                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                    • 15808
                                                                                                                                    #383
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by JOKER | JOKEREMPIRE Inc.

                                                                                                                                    But you see the thing is, you can't win a war by planting pretty flowers - you actually have to kick those in the balls that keep stepping on your pretty flowers in the first place.

                                                                                                                                    If you disagree with that - I'm sorry but then you really do not understand how fighting a war works in the first place.
                                                                                                                                    I think, like the war on drugs, history has proven the war on piracy is unwinnable.

                                                                                                                                    Therefore, what is the point of fighting an unwinnable war?

                                                                                                                                    The amount of muscle, money and lobbying the RIAA and MPAA have combined makes the porn industry look like a joke in comparison. They failed.

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                                                                                                                                      • JOKER
                                                                                                                                        Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 2105
                                                                                                                                        #384
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                                                        I think, like the war on drugs, history has proven the war on piracy is unwinnable.
                                                                                                                                        And that is your prerogative.

                                                                                                                                        Instead of giving up before trying - maybe we should learn from history and not repeat the same mistake others, that have in your eyes failed, made.
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                                                                                                                                          • Far-L
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                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 6065
                                                                                                                                            #385
                                                                                                                                            twwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

                                                                                                                                            (that is the sound of the ref whistle I just blew to stop play and make a call on the field...)

                                                                                                                                            The call on the field is HOLDING DamianJ as being pro-piracy, which he is not. Accusing him of being pro-piracy is going to result in a loss of yardage for the anti-tube team of 15 yards of credibility. An additional minor penalty against Markham will be assessed for DELAY OF GAME, for a loss of another 10 yards.

                                                                                                                                            Play will resume on the whistle.

                                                                                                                                            tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt.
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                                                                                                                                              • Slappin Fish
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                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                                                • 2512
                                                                                                                                                #386
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                Let's pretend, for a minute, you could stop for profit piracy (you can't, but let's pretend you can). What do you think will happen then?

                                                                                                                                                I'll tell you, it will just be like before file lockers started. Torrents, usenet, irc, private ftp, forums etc will just take over again.

                                                                                                                                                All file lockers did was make it slightly technically easier for noobs to pirate stuff and made a few people rich.

                                                                                                                                                Removal of that aspect of piracy will not have any real impact in people sharing copyrighted content that they shouldn't be sharing.
                                                                                                                                                Usenet, irc, private ftp results don't rank on every google result.

                                                                                                                                                Nothing will stop file sharing. but as you said yourself it's all about visibility and convenience.

                                                                                                                                                btw this is what happens to a file locker when it stops paying per download..

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                                                                                                                                                  • DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                    • 15808
                                                                                                                                                    #387
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                                    btw this is what happens to a file locker when it stops paying per download..

                                                                                                                                                    And all those users have totally stopped pirating content, right?

                                                                                                                                                    Oh wait, of course they haven't, they've just gone someplace else to steal the shit they think they should get for free...

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                                                                                                                                                      • DWB
                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 31779
                                                                                                                                                        #388
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                                        We are stuck in a circle jerk discussion because we are talking about two different things. File sharing and for profit piracy. The former which the MPAA and RIAA threw money at is here to stay, the latter has Achilles heels and their business can take a significant nose dive by taking simple action.
                                                                                                                                                        I'm actually trying to talk about the possibilities in the future. Not when someone failed at in the past or things that have no true relevance to the porn industry. I'm looking forward, not backwards, on this problem. What someone else failed at is of no concern to me other than acknowledging where they failed so it is not repeated.

                                                                                                                                                        In the meantime, those stuck in their pirate ways only want to argue about what can't be done because it wasn't achieved before. That is typical of people who don't achieve much in life because they are not forward thinkers or problem solvers.

                                                                                                                                                        I strongly have faith in things we do not yet know about or even are thinking of. We don't know what WIPO may evolve into or what law enforcement may have up their sleeves. We don't know if DMCA will change, or even if new laws will pass to govern the internet on an international level. We simply don't know. But since the world will always need ditch diggers and magicians, I suppose there is a use for the other way of thinking as well.

                                                                                                                                                        10 years ago did you think you would be using touch screens on your phone, or that your phone could shoot HD video? Hell no you didn't. Things change. Innovations happen. Possibilities are endless. Thus my stance on hoping the future is one without piracy as we see it today.


                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Far-L
                                                                                                                                                        twwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

                                                                                                                                                        (that is the sound of the ref whistle I just blew to stop play and make a call on the field...)

                                                                                                                                                        The call on the field is HOLDING DamianJ as being pro-piracy, which he is not. Accusing him of being pro-piracy is going to result in a loss of yardage for the anti-tube team of 15 yards of credibility. An additional minor penalty against Markham will be assessed for DELAY OF GAME, for a loss of another 10 yards.

                                                                                                                                                        Play will resume on the whistle.

                                                                                                                                                        tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt.
                                                                                                                                                        THAT was a funny post.

                                                                                                                                                        And yea, he is totally pro-piracy. No one in their right mind would argue endlessly about this subject, always in support of ANY and ALL anti-piracy measures failing, without having any skin in the game whatsoever, unless they were knee deep in the middle of it.

                                                                                                                                                        He's just like Gideon. People who are so hell bent on arguing on behalf of the pirates, are either pro-piracy or total loons who probably expose themselves to blind people.

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                                                                                                                                                          • Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2007
                                                                                                                                                            • 2512
                                                                                                                                                            #389
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                            And all those users have totally stopped pirating content, right?

                                                                                                                                                            Oh wait, of course they haven't, they've just gone someplace else to steal the shit they think they should get for free...
                                                                                                                                                            I respect your point of view but I think you contradict yourself by promoting the benefits of visibility, convenience and marketing then saying pushing piracy back to a much less mainstream place like usenet or irc is useless.

                                                                                                                                                            You can choose to believe me or not but since oron lost it's paypal and made their affiliate program invite only the s.e asian content I come across by search is a tenth of what it use to.

                                                                                                                                                            Anyway, we are starting to have a Paul Markham type conversation, which let's face it is pretty useless, so I'll leave it at that.

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                                                                                                                                                              • MattPIVO
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                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2012
                                                                                                                                                                • 240
                                                                                                                                                                #390
                                                                                                                                                                This thread is WAY TO LONG TO READ!

                                                                                                                                                                CLIFF NOTES ANYONE?


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                                                                                                                                                                  • DWB
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 31779
                                                                                                                                                                    #391
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Slappin Fish
                                                                                                                                                                    Usenet, irc, private ftp results don't rank on every google result.

                                                                                                                                                                    Nothing will stop file sharing. but as you said yourself it's all about visibility and convenience.

                                                                                                                                                                    btw this is what happens to a file locker when it stops paying per download..

                                                                                                                                                                    But... MPAA... RIAA... iTunes... Hollywood... can't stop stealing....

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                                                                                                                                                                      • DWB
                                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 31779
                                                                                                                                                                        #392
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by MattPIVO
                                                                                                                                                                        This thread is WAY TO LONG TO READ!

                                                                                                                                                                        CLIFF NOTES ANYONE?
                                                                                                                                                                        Fabian got butt hurt, Paul Markum derailed the thread, and since Damian stalks Paul, he took over the derailed thread with nonsense about MPAA, RIAA, and iTunes, and is telling everyone to make better content and that piracy will live forever and everyone will fail and burn in the fiery pits of hell for all eternity. Oh, and I think he pulled a rabbit from a hat.

                                                                                                                                                                        That is more or less it.

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Robbie
                                                                                                                                                                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 20960
                                                                                                                                                                            #393
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by MattPIVO
                                                                                                                                                                            This thread is WAY TO LONG TO READ!
                                                                                                                                                                            CLIFF NOTES ANYONE?
                                                                                                                                                                            DWB summed it up perfectly:

                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                                                                                                            the world will always need ditch diggers and magicians.
                                                                                                                                                                            -Robbie
                                                                                                                                                                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                                                                              • MattPIVO
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2012
                                                                                                                                                                                • 240
                                                                                                                                                                                #394
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                                                                                                                Fabian got butt hurt, Paul Markum derailed the thread, and since Damian stalks Paul, he took over the derailed thread with nonsense about MPAA, RIAA, and iTunes, and is telling everyone to make better content and that piracy will live forever and everyone will fail and burn in the fiery pits of hell for all eternity. Oh, and I think he pulled a rabbit from a hat.

                                                                                                                                                                                That is more or less it.

                                                                                                                                                                                Thank you for saving me a solid hour+ of reading


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                                                                                                                                                                                  • DWB
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 31779
                                                                                                                                                                                    #395
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by MattPIVO
                                                                                                                                                                                    Thank you for saving me a solid hour+ of reading


                                                                                                                                                                                    The best part was Fabian butt hurt because his blog comments were held for moderation due to having two or more links in the comment. He had a mini-meltdown over it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jman
                                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 22837
                                                                                                                                                                                        #396
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Far-L
                                                                                                                                                                                        twwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

                                                                                                                                                                                        (that is the sound of the ref whistle I just blew to stop play and make a call on the field...)

                                                                                                                                                                                        The call on the field is HOLDING DamianJ as being pro-piracy, which he is not. Accusing him of being pro-piracy is going to result in a loss of yardage for the anti-tube team of 15 yards of credibility. An additional minor penalty against Markham will be assessed for DELAY OF GAME, for a loss of another 10 yards.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Play will resume on the whistle.

                                                                                                                                                                                        tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttt.
                                                                                                                                                                                        LMAO Great one Far-L ;)
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Robbie
                                                                                                                                                                                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 20960
                                                                                                                                                                                            #397
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by DWB


                                                                                                                                                                                            The best part was Fabian butt hurt because his blog comments were held for moderation due to having two or more links in the comment. He had a mini-meltdown over it.
                                                                                                                                                                                            And then Paul and DamianJ came in and shit all over the thread...
                                                                                                                                                                                            -Robbie
                                                                                                                                                                                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                                                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 50969
                                                                                                                                                                                                #398
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                                                                You could flip that...

                                                                                                                                                                                                You can pirate any music you want for free with google. And yet people still pay a dollar for a song...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • mikesouth
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 6334
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #399
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Fabian got butt hurt, Paul Markum derailed the thread, and since Damian stalks Paul, he took over the derailed thread with nonsense about MPAA, RIAA, and iTunes, and is telling everyone to make better content and that piracy will live forever and everyone will fail and burn in the fiery pits of hell for all eternity. Oh, and I think he pulled a rabbit from a hat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    That is more or less it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    couldnt have said it better myself
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mike South

                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • papill0n
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 15547
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #400
                                                                                                                                                                                                        welcome to the damien and paul show

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