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Need Damian on this and his method of making that ineffective. Otherwise.
will work in countries that sign up to it.2) Treaties. Get in line or get sanctioned / have your internet shut off.
Now that's radical.3) Give the internet to the UN. Not really something I'd like to see, but it is a solution. Get in line or they turn off the internet in your country.
There is one very easy method to do it for most. The billing system.You can already fingerprint your videos. Problem is, that really isn't a real solution because once you identify where it is, you are in the same boat as sending a DMCA. Something hardcore has to happen. SOPA v2 or something else. I'm all for it. And I've said it 100 times before, I could do without Facebook, Youtube, Tumblr, or any other site. I had a life before the internet and I'd get along just fine after those sites were gone or regulated. What happens to them, or any site, is not my concern. New laws need to be made and everyone follows them or you lose out.
A change in 2257 holding everyone responsible for the models information would be a game changer. And a law that would hold responsible the advertisers of a pirate site would also be a game changer.
I'm 100% in support of very harsh laws. I'll live with it. I already live in a country that censors the internet and blocks many websites so it's really not a stretch for me if I lose some more. You'd be surprised how perfectly fine life is without parts of the net. And I'm not a person who supports censorship, but I also see it as the only way that is going to bring the internet under control. It can not continue to be a lawless area where anyone can do anything with little or no consequences.
The Internet isn't free. It's a huge business. Show me a truly free site and I'll change that. We do have Usenet and that needs someone technical to tell us about. Still for the rest of the Internet it's about generating income. cut off the money flow and people will sit up and take notice.
Now all we need is the US Government to step in.
My point with his clothes, no worries the trolls will come and protect him. They need his traffic.Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
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I honestly don't know the ins and outs of the tech side of the net. However, I do see that the US Government seizes domains, and they were able to put together the arrest for Megaupload in another country. That is enough to tell me that something could be done at some level.
That said, didn't they more or less do a good job of blocking the net in Syria? And as you know, they block a lot of sites here in Thailand. Of course a proxy will get around that, but Joe Public doesn't use a proxy.
My point is, if they really wanted to find a way, I have faith they could.Comment
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Pornographers calling out for government censorship amuses me no end.Last edited by DamianJ; 06-19-2012, 03:43 AM.Comment
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If you have any ideas for a better solution that does not involve the government or new laws, I'm all ears - seriously.
Some good feedback and ideas from DWB and Paul (I knew you still have it in you!
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Thinking out loud here... Aren't the Root DNS servers under Verisign's control / authority?
Maybe Manwin would like to merge with / buy OpenDNS and / or CloudFlare to "accelerate" the Internet (and pick up a nice revenue-stream and tech-companies with a really great teams along the way) and along the way now have control over many, many users DNS querries... You get where I'm going with this?
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Why? Do you think it's OK to rape someone and film it just because we're in the porn business? How about child porn or sex with animals. How about kids having sex with animals? Simulated forced sex? Shitting on people's faces? All porn depending on who you ask.
Just because we make porn for a living doesn't mean why have to disagree rules and regulations being put on the internet.
We all have to abide by rules. Only criminals and anarchists want to live in a lawless society. Which one are you?Comment
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Damian doesn't have ideas, he just has negative comments which are usually pro-piracy, and stalking tendencies towards certain GFY members.Comment
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You see, that's the problem with freedom of speech. There is always someone saying something you disagree with. So, the choice boils down to if you want freedom of speech or not. It's black and white.
Also, and more importantly, it's impossible to put rules and regulations on the internet because it is global and there is no global law. Even if there was, people will ALWAYS find a way round them, like TOR for example. Like the second level internet.
I believe that the whole money/piracy thing is a red herring anyway. Piracy existed for free a very long time before file lockers came around. And it will continue to exist if file lockers credit card processessing is stopped. Usenet, IRC, private FTP, forums, torrents etc all exist for free.
I don't believe the problems the industry are facing are much to do with piracy. More to do with 1) A massive double dip recession that is fucking over EVERYONE 2) Years of treating our customers like cunts (circle jerks, card banging, hidden x sales, dialers, throttling bandwidth, content rotation, spamming, selling email addresses etc etc.)
We'll see though. If you all do manage to close all CC processessing for file lockers and then everyone sees a HUGE growth in sales, I will eat my hat and apologise. However, I have a feeling that won't happen.
It's nice to have something to blame for a greedy industry's short sighted failures. It is convenient. However, I don't think it's accurate.
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History, and billions of dollars wasted by the RIAA and MPAA have proven there is no solution.
It's like the war on drugs. Simply impossible to win.
I believe if the time and money spent on trying to fight an impossible war were spent on making the product better, we could achieve something. Like iTunes Music Store. Everyone, EVERYONE said the music industry would never recover from Napster/Audio Galaxy days. But all it needed was a better solution. Easy, reasonably priced and elegant to use. And lo, digital legal music sales are through the roof.
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See, now we're getting somewhere.
Yes, I agree - there should be a low inhibition / entry level access to pay-to-enjoy porn, absolutely.
No need to give away the "house" for ~ 4.95 though.
From my experience, you would not believe (well the numbers are actually in another thread on this board 300.000 usd failure or so) what people are willing to spend if you give them exactly what they want - so keeping this in mind - sure 4.95 or heck even 2.95 can get you "into the door" but if you want the good stuff, it'll cost you some more - like anything in life really - you get what you pay for. It should def. be 100% transparent though, no fucking around with amounts / billing etc. A coin-system is usually fair in that aspect. You load up say 50 bucks worth in coins (virtual currency) and you can spend it on the go for stuff you really choose to consume.
If there is a good product people are willing to pay for it, no need to give it away for free or for peanuts
// Edit: CCBill / TMM / NATS - what are your thoughts on a coin-system would you be willing to offer something for interested parties?Last edited by JOKER; 06-19-2012, 05:08 AM. Reason: Adding some keywords for certain groups to trigger readingFacilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
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Don't hold your breath waiting for a reply. He hasn't got a clue and for some reason is against any attempts.
I always had it in me. Stopping the money flow is the easiest way for the US to achieve a a win in a major battle. It will be fought on home soil, As Visa and MC are US based ultimately, and it would help if the EU follow. Just reducing the US income from offenders, will make them sit up and take notice. anyone remember the 1% CB ceiling and cross sale rules they implemented?Some good feedback and ideas from DWB and Paul (I knew you still have it in you! )
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You can't put the genii back in the bottle.
People will always pirate and give away content for free. 10TB is uploaded to usenet EVERY DAY. For free! And downloaded for free.
Let's look at music. Type any popular artist's name into google and you see pirate downloads. You can still get any music you want for free. Yet people are still buying it via Amazon, itunes, etc.
You need to forget about trying to stop free porn, you won't EVER do that.
Concentrate on making a better product than the free porn.Comment
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