Mike South, you playing games now?
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That alone, an email address, is not the issue. However, the rest of the premise is a slippery slope legally. I think it is a great common sense idea, make no mistake about it. But I also see the flip side of the coin legally, and within the so-called justice system.
I believe they are making an honest attempt, that is my personal feeling.
However, I think it is a balancing act. I say this from my own actual experience, and understanding of the market, or the tube site business. Even on small tubes, it is difficult to deal with those just uploading for ego, or whatever. You have people willing to upload large volumes of shit just so they can be the first to post a link on some forum. Not even for money. Just for being "cool".
I think Nathan/Fabian/whatthefuckever is a figurehead of a corporate conglomerate. I believe he has layers that advise him what he can, and cannot say publicly. I think they are probably making some level of a best effort to deal with this issue, but can't openly admit that they are doing any level of oversight that could be used in court.
I see things from a different point of view per se. More so from the ugly side of how corporate America works, from my years before porn. I think that Schultz is really trying to balance out being a good corporate porn citizen, without completely destroying their business model (i.e. losing all of the traffic).
Just like the CCBill threads of the past week, once things are BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION, you may see some results. Same as Schultz has mentioned that when they get DMCA's, they act on them. What I am getting at here is, once something is brought up they deal with it. But they are not going to openly admit they go looking for it, as legally they could be on the hook.
I would say this is probably what his team of lawyers in Vegas have advised him, but that is just my guess. If you have a whole legal team with you at a conference, I would say that they probably have given you some parameters and public 'corporate line', you must operate within.
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Certain things my lawyers instruct me to do, I do not really care about.. or forget... in this case, I have no clue if they ever told me not to acknowledge or not... so you got lucky ;)"Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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A handful of their affiliates are screaming about closed accounts on some of the boards. I know it's still open for some.DWB, Oron did NOT TURN OFF THEIR AFFILIATE PROGRAM. Their affiliate program was invite only since the beginning of the year now, since Megaupload was shut down. They selectively remove people from it. Their affiliate program is still up and running the same as before CCBill shut their billing down.
I hope that is foreshadowing.Comment
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I saw that too, I also think that what you are seeing on those boards is the tip of the iceberg. I have some numbers of what some of those file hosts have in terms of profit a month, the numbers you see there on those boards are peanuts. Its the small people complaining... just as it happens so often on adult boards... The big fish, you will not see, they have nothing to complain about."Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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Also if you turn up to a seminar to give a talk, dress like a man who owns a 9 figure company, or part of it or someone who gets a decent wage. It's insulting to dress as you did. Don't announce 9 figures investment or loan sums until you're spending it and ready to show the purchases. Don't put some poor kid up in front of an audience of vipers who are looking to strike him. And don't send anyone here until he's welcome. It's all bad or foolish PR, the last one being cruel to the victim.
Who cares how someone looks like? You can't judge people on that !
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There are places in the world with hosting companies that won't give a fuck. you need to go through a court to achieve what you suggest.tony, CCBill stopping billing for file lockers was more complicated than DWB finding some links that he could complain about.
If you really think CCBill let's themselves be bullied by the likes of DWB..... That CCBill stopped billing for them is great, do not get me wrong. It also changed basically nothing though. They will have new billing in place on Monday, and they will continue. Fighting these sites has to be done at their roots, not at the top leafs. Their ability to host needs to be destroyed. Only then will this be in any way successful. Take down Oron, preferably seizing their equipment, and they are dead in the water. All files gone at once. This has to be the goal... Not trying to solve a problem by blackmailing CCBill and in the wake causing huge issues for all of adult by posting child porn links all over fucking GFY...
This is why you need to get a PR company to reform your image. It makes people think you have something else to hide. No one is going to curse you for throwing MW's weight and money behind this, if you do in straight and openly.SZNY, if I would go around promoting who I give money to for fighting piracy, people like DWB or Mike will start trying to discredit those people because they think they are being bribed or such by Manwin.
So I leave it up to those organizations to do PR on it or not, I am not doing this for the publicity, I'm doing it to make more money by selling our premium products.
Get a PR man.As I said above... taking out their revenue stream is causing them a headache for day until they have a new one, there are too many out there. Although I agree its a nice thing to annoy them with... and I am sure we will at some point be able to make sure paypal nolonger supports these sites...
Get lawyers around the world.Rip out their hosting and hardware from under their feet and they get into real problems.
And pirating it. AND has roved pointless.I agree, sending DMCA's is not fighting piracy, its a part of selling digital content.
Get behind this fight by funding someone else or setting it up and getting a good PR company to advise you. You're a 9 figure company for goodness sake, act like one.Comment
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