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Paul Markham · 06-17-2012, 11:50 PM

Interest program last night about Gobekli Tepe.

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Six miles from Urfa, an ancient city in southeastern Turkey, Klaus Schmidt has made one of the most startling archaeological discoveries of our time: massive carved stones about 11,000 years old, crafted and arranged by prehistoric people who had not yet developed metal tools or even pottery. The megaliths predate Stonehenge by some 6,000 years. The place is called Gobekli Tepe, and Schmidt, a German archaeologist who has been working here more than a decade, is convinced it's the site of the world's oldest temple.

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...#ixzz1y7oEbeX8

It predates the time of when we moved from Hunter Gathers to Farmers. They have recently found the remains of an older temple than this one they estimate was built 15,000 years ago.

Back to watch TV.

Paul Markham · 06-18-2012, 06:02 AM

The scientists doing the archeology and research are putting forward theories that turn previous theories upside down.

These temples were built by Hunter Gatherers. They took a lot of organised labor, that had to be housed and fed. This was previously thought to of happened after we started to farm, but this isn't what happened here.

There are signs of a settlement being found, feasts and even grain storage for a wild wheat/grass bread. Also lots of bones were found, all the remains of non domesticated animals and eaten as food.

So they now think these people came together to go hunt and gather as a fixed unit instead of following the migrating herds or moving on to new places. The community needed a better way to feed itself and "discovered" farming. They also needed a set of rules and elevated the primitive religion they had to a higher form so they could live together with the rules required to co-exist.

There were no Aliens or help from god. They did it themselves.

The size of the statues are also interesting. Until then cave paintings had pictured man as part of his environment, now they were building temples and statues to tower over his environment.

They, and in other programs, also touched on other themes in early religions that are similar to modern religions. Resurrection, eating the flesh and blood of a victim which Catholics adopted with Mass, afterlife, etc.

06-18-2012, 06:02 AM	#102
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The scientists doing the archeology and research are putting forward theories that turn previous theories upside down. These temples were built by Hunter Gatherers. They took a lot of organised labor, that had to be housed and fed. This was previously thought to of happened after we started to farm, but this isn't what happened here. There are signs of a settlement being found, feasts and even grain storage for a wild wheat/grass bread. Also lots of bones were found, all the remains of non domesticated animals and eaten as food. So they now think these people came together to go hunt and gather as a fixed unit instead of following the migrating herds or moving on to new places. The community needed a better way to feed itself and "discovered" farming. They also needed a set of rules and elevated the primitive religion they had to a higher form so they could live together with the rules required to co-exist. There were no Aliens or help from god. They did it themselves. The size of the statues are also interesting. Until then cave paintings had pictured man as part of his environment, now they were building temples and statues to tower over his environment. They, and in other programs, also touched on other themes in early religions that are similar to modern religions. Resurrection, eating the flesh and blood of a victim which Catholics adopted with Mass, afterlife, etc. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70