good point, i bet ccbill walked away from a LOT of money to make this change, those filelocker sites are a huge market

you know it was not a light decision, huge kudos to ccbill :thumbsup

Actions always speak louder than words.
Thank you for doing the right thing.

Now CCBill has done the right thing it's time to apply pressure to Paypal.

If you see your material on lockers, email Paypal with the incriminating links when you file your DMCAs.

Excellent decision and move CCBill!

Wtf - no mention of DWB until post 79 when he caused the stink that led to this happening. He deserves nearly all the credit and probably some ass-kissing from some people here for helping the industry.

nice move ;)

Well Done

truth is ccbill had no other choice, with 100s of webmasters sending evidence of their activity directly to visa/mastercard this was the ONLY choice they had. its called self preservation.

ccbill doesnt give a FLYING FUCK about any of us

Once again, CCBill proves themselves to be a top-notch provider and business partner.

I'm glad CC Bill is stopping processing for File Lockers.

Here's my further thoughts:
1. It seems to me that they wouldn't have stopped if so much anger hadn't been expressed from their clients after they were called out.

2. They still don't seem to care about PIRACY. And haven't expressed any intention to NOT process for PIRACY (they are only worried about getting in trouble with visa and mastercard for the illegal content on the sites they have stopped processing for). So they still are indicating that they feel it's okay to process for other types of pirate sites as long as there is no banned content type on the site. :(

3. This thought goes out to people who have given the opinion that the people who go to pirate sites will "never pay anyway"
Looks like that idea is BULLSHIT (as those of us who have been in this business for a long time already knew). They WILL PAY and did pay. That's what CC Bill was processing for these file lockers. Our EX-customers who gladly still pay for porn. They just want to have ALL the porn in the world for one price (because it's all stolen and has everybodies complete sites in one deal)

So YES...if some of you out there are still mistakenly thinking that people won't pay for porn...this whole episode should open your eyes that YES there are plenty of people who are paying. If the laws change and this stealing is stopped...these people will still want their porn and they will pay the rightful owners to view it.

Adult EU:

In thread https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1071367 you said

As you can see, CCBill did not ignore complaints. Do you think that maybe you owe them an apology?

Speaking of apologies...

Radicalbucks: You started a thread at https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1071376 and said

That is a pretty vicious insult. Will you be apologizing to CCBill for what you said? And if you don't, do you think CCBill should pass over doing any business with you until you do?


Konda: First Post https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1071367 you said

Will you be posting an apology to CCBill? Do you think CCBill should sue you for these comments? Here is a web page you may want to read : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

If you are one of the others who joined the pile-on against CCBill and said really stupid shit, a sincere apology to CCBill from you might be a good idea.

:thumbsup

+1, great job ccbill :thumbsup

Thank fucking god. Good work putting an end to this nonsense and a very well crafted statement, Gary. I knew I wouldn't have to eat my words. Sigh of relief, way to move the machine in just a few days!

On to new business, who can be addressed next- perhaps PayPal?

Sincerely,

Brad Mitchell
MojoHost

You've got to be kidding. Why the hell should anyone apologize for stating what was the truth at the time? Good for them for fixing it but people did what needed to be done.

I am relieved CCBILL eventually did what was right, but I pity the fools that think CCBILL acted because it was the right thing to do. Would they still be processing for the file lockers if the whistle blowers had not contacted VISA? No doubt! And I am disgusted by those who would demand an apology from the whistle blowers and by those who would call the whistle blowers trolls instead of applauding them for what they did.

I agree, there's no need for apologies, maybe thank you's should be welcome

but at that time they were in fact billing for thosefile lockers, ********** ur wrong imho :error

Seriously?

from your link
" slander refers to a malicious, false,[2][not specific enough to verify] and defamatory spoken statement or report"

the key word is false, so what you are saying is if anyone sees anyone else doing anything illegal, morally wrong, against card association rules, don't you dare tell anybody, cause that's defamation?

I gave him a cyber blowjob in icq as a show of thanks.

Does that count?

:winkwink:

DWB knows I heart him, and he is indeed the one that got things rolling.

Glad to hear this. Thanks CCBill!

I'm pretty sure there was some behind the scenes pressure being applied by other people as well, but everyone (except **********) who bumped threads, bitched at their ccbill reps, and raised holy hell is responsible for this awesome outcome.

This tread is still classic adult though.
1. shit on everone
2. turn a blind eye
3. make money on stolen content and cp
3. get caught
4. Get right
5. Welcome back to the bro club lol.

Cheers and beers for everyone!

It has worked like a champ for the 15 some years I have been in this industry. I am sure the next 15 will be more of the same. It is next to impossible to flunk out of adult if you have the dollars to keep playing. Many of the same names involved from the biggest scandals, they are simply no longer the front men.

:2 cents:

very good :)

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Thank you, CCBill.

Everyone, please remember to vote Romney in November.

Ok then.

What's your issue with CCBill, do they breast feed you?

CCBill, PayPal, Visa and MasterCard were processing for CP, whether you can handle it or not. The only thing you could debate about is whether they were aware of it or not. Visa and MasterCard do know their services are being used for processing payment for filelockers because I informed them of that by fax in December. I never got a response and all the filelockers I reported to them are still active and still accepting Visa and MasterCard, either directly or through PayPal or other processors. It's great that CCBill stopped processing for filelockers and let's hope Visa/MC/PP will follow soon.

Was this actually shown to be the case? I haven't kept up with all of the threads.

Fool.

:error:error:1orglaugh

You have no idea.

Almost correct, except if you are idiot Mark Prince who also thinks CCbill are owed some kind of apology. jeez.

They stopped processing for CP because if they did not they would feel the weight of visa and mc and they deserve an apology ?

For all we know this turn around was ordered by visa and mc.

:2 cents:

Cant wait for the next Phoenix Forum :thumbsup

Excellent news ;)

Does Mark Prince even own a pic and vid paysite model?

It is my understanding he is in the live video chat market. I could be wrong.

Along with dating sites what are some other ad revenue streams pirates like to utilize?

No, but I consider myself lucky to get to work with them as well as Segpay, Epoch and others. My whole point is not that a problem was pointed out, it is that they were unfairly labeled.

This right here, is the problem. This is not a fair statement. Let me see if I can put it this way. If you are a hosting company and a customer of yours has CP on his site, does that automatically make you a company that hosts CP? Is EukerVoorn Hosting Inc Cool with CP? Should we look up EukerVoorn whenever anyone wants to get into the CP business? Should we begin associated EukerVoorn with CP?

The answer is no, of course not. A customer of EukerVoorn Hosting did something stupid, knowingly or not, and EukerVoorn Hosting put a stop to it. Maybe it happened a second or 3rd time but EukerVoorn Hosting stopped those too. EukerVoorn Hosting is not a CP friendly outfit, right? He's a good person who did a good thing and everyone should leave him the fuck alone now, right?

Now you know why I am pissed.

As a matter of fact I probably have a much better idea than you do. Instead of shooting off one-liners why don't you state your case instead? Don't forget to include links, screenshots and backups because you know I'll follow it up with a Proof or Ban request.

Yes, seriously. Read the TITLE of the post I am linking to. You don't think that the TITLE of a Thread that says "CCBILL knowingly processing for Bestiality and Pirated Hollywood Movies" is more than a little damaging? They publicly state that it is against their TOS, that they do not allow it, and they stopped processing for the site when it was brought to their attention. This is not KNOWINGLY, Phil. If I was CCBill I would have my lawyers drooling all over these threads, and if it were my employee saying this kind of thing I would fire him instantly for saying it.


I buy and sell sock lint.

Seriously everyone, CCBill did the right thing of course, but some of you do owe them an apology and you know who you are. If you don't want to you don't have to, no big deal to me.

No, it makes me a company that provides a customer with a server to host CP. As long as I'm not aware of that, I'm clean. As soon as someone reports the site to me and I don't terminate the server and close the customer's account, I'm a dirty immoral fucker that needs his ass kicked.

Um.... yes?

Why do you continue to pretend they didn't know what they were getting themselves into?
You lose ALL credibility, everytime you try and defend them hosting file lockers.

Look, im glad they decided to stop processing for file lockers. yay!!!

But, seriously....you are not fooling anyone, nor will anyone, who knows their ass from a whole in the ground, agree with you.

By the way... Do you own a pic or vid paysite model or not?

I must have touched a nerve.

Proceed to call me a troll now, and to play it off that i am an idiot and don't know what I am talking about. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Seriously, you need to dislodge your nose from their rectum. It is getting embarrassing for you.

Sorry ? Your going to get me banned for calling you an idiot ?

Your prepared to argue that billing for cp isnt so bad and everyone should be nice to CCbill yet you think your going to get me banned ?

Go ahead knock yourself out.

With regards to stating my case; your buddies at CCbill only stopped billing for cp when the threat of being outed to visa/mc became inevitable. The screen shots and links that you are asking for are a matter of record in several threads on this forum. I would post the links to said threads but I believe you have read them.

So your foolish position has turned you into the Gideon Gallbladder of the CCbill file locker saga, arguing black is white when the correct moral position is to absolutely shun any person or company that goes anywhere near cp.

CCbill have brought our industry into disrepute, they aided the financing and distribution of cp, they give legitimacy to copyright thieves, and you want people to apologise to them.

I personally think they are lucky that law enforcement are not knocking on their door.

Prince you are a fucking idiot.

:2 cents:

this :thumbsup

also congratulations CCBill

I do not agree with the people who are still bashing them, it is a step forward, and in such times it must be welcomed, and the fight must go on because piracy is far form untouchable...all file lockers just lost a processor...more will follow suit with enough pressure and pressure does not cost a cent on the internet..:thumbsup

Terrific!

No. I am saying that CCBill was unfairly jumped on by people like you. If you don't see it then that is your problem.


OR,

Maybe they stopped billing for them as soon as they verified that it was true, and verified with their legal department that it was ok for them to break the agreement they had with that company. Do you really fucking think that a multi-million dollar company makes a snap decision just because some troll on the Interwebs bitches and moans about it? No. Like anyone should do in business, they investigated themselves, verified it for themselves, and then acted.

I am not asking for screenshots and links about what happened. Do you not even remember what you responded to?

I said "Once again, CCBill proves themselves to be a top-notch provider and business partner.".

You said "Fool - you have no idea".

So then, what is it? Are they not a top notch provider and business partners? Have they somehow fucked you over? What don't I have any idea about? If they are not top notch, Stop shooting off 1-liners, and prove your point. (Second request)


I am not arguing that black is white, and my moral position is the same as any other moral person. Yes CP is bad. Yes the guy who shot and uploaded it should go to prison. File Locker ***MAY*** not have known about this shit, but they are not exactly a part of this community and by what I have read they are scumbags, fine. CCBill on the other hand ***DEFINITELY*** did not know about this. And you really think that you or any other big shot on GFY who thinks otherwise should go to the Phoenix Forum next year, find a CCBill rep, and tell them to their face what you think they really do. I personally would enjoy seeing that person get a serious beating.

And who are you to speak for "the industry"? I've never heard of you.

How do you know that they aren't? How do you know that CCBill didn't contact the Feds right away? Did you? Why not? Did you reach out to asacp.com? Why not? I sure did. Tell me, NewNick, speaker for the adult industry, why didn't you do anything about this instead of mouth off on gfy?

Coming from you that means exactly nothing to me. Forgive me if I don't cry.

You have always been a ass kisser, so why don't you do it.
Let the front fighters alone, you go protect your business, whats left of it....

Tjeezers,

GFY is a place of business that somehow lets everyone speak their mind. Agree or not, everyone posts what they think, argue with each other, and stay what they like. Ultimately it doesn't mean much because people meet at the shows and ultimately shake hands.

I am not kissing CCBill's ass. All I am saying is that I think they were unfairly targeted. I am only saying this because I have worked with them for a long time.

I'm sorry if my opinion is so against your own that you feel it necessary to insult me and my business.

:2 cents::thumbsup

6. Processing for Media Revenue

Excellent news to wake up for :pimp