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Spunky · 06-14-2012, 09:50 PM

It's all good in the end

ShoeBox · 06-14-2012, 09:58 PM

game over?

V_RocKs · 06-14-2012, 10:09 PM

too little, too late?

L-Pink · 06-14-2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

"CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources"

I'm confused, I thought file lockers hid behind the fact they didn't monitor user uploads?

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Still curious ...

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vdbucks · 06-14-2012, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Still curious ...

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It's damage control.

Just look at how many people are praising them now, after the fact, when the reality is that CCBill should have never processed for file lockers to begin with.

mikesouth · 06-14-2012, 10:19 PM

CCBill was going to be my update for tomorrow....I am glad to be able to trash that column.

Thank you CCBill

Good move.

raymor · 06-14-2012, 10:27 PM

I am very glad that I can once again highly recommend CCBill.

L-Pink · 06-14-2012, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks

It's damage control.

Just look at how many people are praising them now, after the fact, when the reality is that CCBill should have never processed for file lockers to begin with.

I agree, I'm also a little confused by this quote ....."CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources"

I thought file lockers hid behind the fact they didn't monitor user uploads?

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AdultKing · 06-14-2012, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I agree, I'm also a little confused by this quote ....."CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources"

I thought file lockers hid behind the fact they didn't monitor user uploads?

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What a file locker will represent to a billing company is different from what they will tell their users.

They say to billing companies "Oh it's ok we'll make sure there's nothing bad"

They say to users "Come and upload anything you like we wont stop you"

They actually don't interfere with content unless forced to by DMCA or other legal means.

L-Pink · 06-14-2012, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

What a file locker will represent to a billing company is different from what they will tell their users.

They say to billing companies "Oh it's ok we'll make sure there's nothing bad"

They say to users "Come and upload anything you like we wont stop you"

They actually don't interfere with content unless forced to by DMCA or other legal means.

I was under the impression that no uploads were monitored in order to not be liable for what is uploaded. And yet ccbill states they relied on file lockers to monitor what is uploaded. ???

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bean-aid · 06-14-2012, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I was under the impression that no uploads were monitored in order to not be liable for what is uploaded. And yet ccbill states they relied on file lockers to monitor what is uploaded. ???

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Drop it... CCBill did good. So many other things to focus attention on now, remember this one?:

L-Pink · 06-14-2012, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I was under the impression that no uploads were monitored in order to not be liable for what is uploaded. And yet ccbill states they relied on file lockers to monitor what is uploaded. ???

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner

Drop it... CCBill did good. So many other things to focus attention on now, remember this one?:

Just trying to understand something that doesn't make sense to me ......... Goodnight.

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Paul Markham · 06-14-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Awesome!

The fight has just begun...

Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.

Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

ADG

This is good news and shows what we can do when we act as one. Now the war moves to a new battle ground Paypal. We can concentrate our efforts on them more.

1 more happy CCbill client.

sojproductions · 06-14-2012, 11:20 PM

This is good news, glad to see CCBill eventually took the right stance - should never have happened in the first place.

AdultKing · 06-14-2012, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I was under the impression that no uploads were monitored in order to not be liable for what is uploaded. And yet ccbill states they relied on file lockers to monitor what is uploaded. ???

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What CCBill is saying is that the Filelockers made representations to them that there would be nothing bad uploaded or left on their Filelockers. However as it's turned out that wasn't true.

LouiseLloyd · 06-14-2012, 11:53 PM

Great move :o)

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-14-2012, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This is good news and shows what we can do when we act as one. Now the war moves to a new battle ground Paypal. We can concentrate our efforts on them more.

1 more happy CCbill client.

We need to do what we can to support ccBill in this too, because by making a principled decision they have stepped away from some money (I'm sure not all File Locker business is illegal, even though many are apparently havens for pirated content).

What does ccBill suggest we can do to ensure that companies aiding and abetting illegal content come to see that it is no longer in their best business/financial interest to continue doing business with companies that are serving as a front for and profiting from cp/illegal/stolen content.

PayPal made a deliberate decision to quit being an ally of the legal and legitimate adult industry a long time ago. It makes a pornographer blush looking at the slime that PayPal is in bed with and making money off of currently.

PayBack PayPal?

As I recall didn't the slimy guy's at Mansef that Fabian Thylmann supposedly paid millions to, use some of their Manwin money to become File Locker kings? Anyone know the name of their File Locker and how legit it is (and who their other "partners" are)?

Time to make a list and check it twice...

ADG

RyuLion · 06-15-2012, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

Congrats to the winners

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccjax

To our friends and colleagues:
CCBILL HAS DISCONTINUED ITS PROCESSING RELATIONSHIPS WITH FILE LOCKER WEBSITES.

Effective immediately, CCBill has discontinued processing for all file locker websites. While CCBill continues to back the business models of our client base without bias, it has been made aware of multiple instances involving content residing on various client websites which violate our Acceptable Use Policy (AUP).

Due to the sensitivity of the matter, CCBill conducted an exhaustive internal investigation with the goal of determining the validity of claims concerning the breach of our AUP. Following the investigation, CCBill decided it can no longer provide transaction services to businesses operating a file locker model.

From inception, CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources and immediately remove any illicit files thereafter identified. It has become clear that such a task is both difficult for website operators to accomplish and nearly impossible for CCBill to verify.

CCBill would like to thank those individuals who have provided examples of content existing on file locker websites which is in violation of our AUP. We are all part of this community and we believe it is our collective responsibility to maintain core values and ethics within the adult marketplace. CCBill has, and always will maintain its high standards in dealing with copyright infringement, illegal content and all aspects of our AUP.

CCBill holds client privacy in the highest regard, and under no circumstance will we discuss specific details related to any previous or current client relationship. We respectfully ask for consideration of these policies, and thus please do not ask us to betray this trust.

Gary Jackson
Managing VP
CCBill

DamianJ · 06-15-2012, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Awesome!

The fight has just begun...

Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.

Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

ADG

Well done for shaming them into doing this ADG.

CamTata · 06-15-2012, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Awesome!

The fight has just begun...

Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.

Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

ADG

Excellent decision by CCBill to end the cannibalization of its core market by halting payment processes that enrich those that employ a business model designed to facilitate theft. Bravo CCBill.

However, even if producers/creators of content have things patented, trademarked, copyrighted, cloaked in multiple layers of secrecy and watermarks, pirates can and will duplicate IP by stealing. Pirates, despite their professed altruism, pilfer the work of others for one reason; profit.

Extinguishing their ability to profit needs to be a concerted and forceful effort that exhibits ferocity and toughness to be successful.

Adult producers need to hoist a few trophies up the flag pole their ship to signify the hazards of IP piracy.

EukerVoorn · 06-15-2012, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit

Correct

You stated that your goals are:

1) To stop these ( file sharing ) sites

2) Protect intellectual property

3) Ban disgusting shit from the internet

The only thing that changed is CCBill processing for them

You haven't reached any of your goals

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SquirtIt with all respect you're totally out of line. Leon has been doing a great thing in the benefit of all content producers including you, after you attacked him he kept respectful towards you and he showed you how CCBill was processing for a site that violates your copyrights but you continue your crusade against him. What is wrong with you man?

EukerVoorn · 06-15-2012, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccjax

To our friends and colleagues:
CCBILL HAS DISCONTINUED ITS PROCESSING RELATIONSHIPS WITH FILE LOCKER WEBSITES.

Gary Jackson
Managing VP
CCBill

Great decision. This is going to be a milestone, in a few years from now we'll look back at how CCBill was the first one that made a decision and announcement like this.

Let's hope that Visa, MasterCard and PayPal will be next.

CHMOD · 06-15-2012, 01:11 AM

Good news !!

However, the fight against those kind of site is not over yet

aciuf · 06-15-2012, 01:22 AM

Good news

aciuf · 06-15-2012, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn

Great decision. This is going to be a milestone, in a few years from now we'll look back at how CCBill was the first one that made a decision and announcement like this.

Let's hope that Visa, MasterCard and PayPal will be next.

We made several infringement reports to PayPal but unfortunately nothing really materialized

scarlettcontent · 06-15-2012, 01:48 AM

well done. ccbill rock!

Pornopat · 06-15-2012, 02:17 AM

Well done ccbill.
I am proud of you.

DWB · 06-15-2012, 02:17 AM

Everyone makes mistakes. It is what you do afterwards to correct those mistakes that matters.

I'm very happy to see CCbill's decision on this. It was the right thing to do.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-15-2012, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Well done for shaming them into doing this ADG.

Wish I could say it was me, but I think the credit for this round goes to DWB, the GFY community-at-large, and to ccBill for making the right move!

ADG

seeandsee · 06-15-2012, 02:30 AM

File Uploaders fucked :D finally good news!

NewNick · 06-15-2012, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit

Correct

You stated that your goals are:

1) To stop these ( file sharing ) sites

2) Protect intellectual property

3) Ban disgusting shit from the internet

The only thing that changed is CCBill processing for them

You haven't reached any of your goals

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You really are clueless. These sites are businesses with considerable overheads. They exist to make a profit. Cut off the money supply and they will cease to exist.

Much more work to be done, but keep the pressure on visa, MasterCard, and PayPal and these places will find it very difficult to survive.

Phoenix · 06-15-2012, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

"CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources"

I'm confused, I thought file lockers hid behind the fact they didn't monitor user uploads?

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uhmm..hello...we are kissing ass here
no room for logic

nyllover · 06-15-2012, 04:31 AM

Very very very good news. Finally.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-15-2012, 04:33 AM

Given the views in the other threads over a number of days, it would be good to sticky this thread, perhaps through the weekend, to ensure that the word gets disseminated.

ADG

Klen · 06-15-2012, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Awesome!

The fight has just begun...

Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.

Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

ADG

Hardly,this worked only because ccbill rely on adult industry and to do action was enough to post on boards,for other problematic entities it will need much more work.

ninavain · 06-15-2012, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks

It's damage control.

Just look at how many people are praising them now, after the fact, when the reality is that CCBill should have never processed for file lockers to begin with.

Bingo...

the rest of you guys are kissing on an ass that just took a shit in your mouth... good luck brushing your teeth

candyflip · 06-15-2012, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain

Bingo...

the rest of you guys are kissing on an ass that just took a shit in your mouth... good luck brushing your teeth

Everette you have a way with words.

BIGTYMER · 06-15-2012, 04:53 AM

Now that we have time we can focus on shutting down oron.

DWB · 06-15-2012, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain

Bingo...

the rest of you guys are kissing on an ass that just took a shit in your mouth... good luck brushing your teeth

I don't think it's kissing ass to be happy with their decision.

No doubt about it, they fucked up big time. It was an epic fuck up. But they un-fucked themselves. They can't undo what was done, but late is better than never.

TheDA · 06-15-2012, 05:12 AM

Until the next time they are dicovered to be processing for dodgy sites.

It's happened with CCBill before and I guess it could easily happen again.

They didn't learn enough from previous exposure, why is this time any different?

babydred · 06-15-2012, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks

It's damage control.

Just look at how many people are praising them now, after the fact, when the reality is that CCBill should have never processed for file lockers to begin with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain

Bingo...

the rest of you guys are kissing on an ass that just took a shit in your mouth... good luck brushing your teeth

both QFT, damage control.

imho, CCBill will wait until this blows over then it's back to business.

aciuf · 06-15-2012, 05:28 AM

this is great news, good job ccbill! Maybe other payment processors will take you guys as an example and join the fight against pirates

ruff · 06-15-2012, 06:04 AM

Thank you CCBill. This is the right decision in my opinion.

EpicPanda · 06-15-2012, 06:13 AM

Thank you!

Sarah_ALSSCAN · 06-15-2012, 06:15 AM

Great news!

MaDalton · 06-15-2012, 06:21 AM

thank you

Axeman · 06-15-2012, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aciuf

We made several infringement reports to PayPal but unfortunately nothing really materialized

Paypal is stubborn, but if you keep hammering them with proper evidence of bad things they are processing, they have bent in the past.

Just got to keep pressuring on the Visa/MC side for those companies processing for this crap. That's the only real leverage to get some of them to back down.

CamTraffic · 06-15-2012, 06:54 AM

Awesome. How do we get in touch with Paypal now?

CaptainHowdy · 06-15-2012, 06:59 AM

Late sig spot ...

ottopottomouse · 06-15-2012, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain

the rest of you guys are kissing on an ass that just took a shit in your mouth... good luck brushing your teeth

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