Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19006082)

I am not sure why people expect CCBill to fight trolls; that really is not their style. The fact that they listened, acted, then told us what was happening is pretty much what I would expect from them

Rome was not built in a day, and hearsay is just that.

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19006118)

Summed up to perfection.

:rasta

Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19006070)

I'm sorry but in our eyes the damage has already been done. CCBill knew what they were doing when they started processing for these file lockers, and if no one would have said anything - and if it didn't turn in to as huge an issue as it did - then they would still be processing for them.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19006082)

I am not sure why people expect CCBill to fight trolls; that really is not their style. The fact that they listened, acted, then told us what was happening is pretty much what I would expect from them

Rome was not built in a day, and hearsay is just that.

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19006127)

:thumbsup

It took what, two or three days for this big company to act? That's actually pretty damn quick for a larger company. There probably had to be numerous meetings, an opinion or three from counsel and a hundred other things for this to happen.

I think most people are used to working from home alone and forget how a larger company has to operate just because of all the moving pieces.

Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 19006124)

You're all over the place on sides you take ;)

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19006143)

"CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources"

I'm confused, I thought file lockers hid behind the fact they didn't monitor user uploads?

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19006219)

Still curious ...

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 19006221)

It's damage control.

Just look at how many people are praising them now, after the fact, when the reality is that CCBill should have never processed for file lockers to begin with.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19006233)

I agree, I'm also a little confused by this quote ....."CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources"

I thought file lockers hid behind the fact they didn't monitor user uploads?

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19006235)

What a file locker will represent to a billing company is different from what they will tell their users.

They say to billing companies "Oh it's ok we'll make sure there's nothing bad"

They say to users "Come and upload anything you like we wont stop you"

They actually don't interfere with content unless forced to by DMCA or other legal means.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19006237)

I was under the impression that no uploads were monitored in order to not be liable for what is uploaded. And yet ccbill states they relied on file lockers to monitor what is uploaded. ???

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19006237)

I was under the impression that no uploads were monitored in order to not be liable for what is uploaded. And yet ccbill states they relied on file lockers to monitor what is uploaded. ???

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19006242)

Drop it... CCBill did good. So many other things to focus attention on now, remember this one?:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19005909)

Awesome! :thumbsup

The fight has just begun...

Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.

Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

:2 cents:

ADG

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19006237)

I was under the impression that no uploads were monitored in order to not be liable for what is uploaded. And yet ccbill states they relied on file lockers to monitor what is uploaded. ???

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19006279)

This is good news and shows what we can do when we act as one. Now the war moves to a new battle ground Paypal. We can concentrate our efforts on them more.

1 more happy CCbill client. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 19006189)

Congrats to the winners

Originally Posted by ccjax (Post 19005896)

To our friends and colleagues:
CCBILL HAS DISCONTINUED ITS PROCESSING RELATIONSHIPS WITH FILE LOCKER WEBSITES.

Effective immediately, CCBill has discontinued processing for all file locker websites. While CCBill continues to back the business models of our client base without bias, it has been made aware of multiple instances involving content residing on various client websites which violate our Acceptable Use Policy (AUP).

Due to the sensitivity of the matter, CCBill conducted an exhaustive internal investigation with the goal of determining the validity of claims concerning the breach of our AUP. Following the investigation, CCBill decided it can no longer provide transaction services to businesses operating a file locker model.

From inception, CCBill relied on the ability of file locker websites to actively monitor incoming uploads from external sources and immediately remove any illicit files thereafter identified. It has become clear that such a task is both difficult for website operators to accomplish and nearly impossible for CCBill to verify.

CCBill would like to thank those individuals who have provided examples of content existing on file locker websites which is in violation of our AUP. We are all part of this community and we believe it is our collective responsibility to maintain core values and ethics within the adult marketplace. CCBill has, and always will maintain its high standards in dealing with copyright infringement, illegal content and all aspects of our AUP.

CCBill holds client privacy in the highest regard, and under no circumstance will we discuss specific details related to any previous or current client relationship. We respectfully ask for consideration of these policies, and thus please do not ask us to betray this trust.


Gary Jackson
Managing VP
CCBill

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19005909)

Awesome! :thumbsup

The fight has just begun...

Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.

Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

:2 cents:

ADG

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19005909)

Awesome! :thumbsup

The fight has just begun...

Imagine if ccBill and more importantly, the adult producers, set aside a small percentage of their income to fight piracy in a unified way, including class action lawsuits, what a difference we could make.

Rather than patting ourselves on the back and cracking a beer, let's roll up our sleeves and build upon this, so that we all benefit - this was a small battle, we still have a war to fight!

:2 cents:

ADG

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 19005986)

Correct




You stated that your goals are:


1) To stop these ( file sharing ) sites

2) Protect intellectual property

3) Ban disgusting shit from the internet



The only thing that changed is CCBill processing for them


You haven't reached any of your goals

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Originally Posted by ccjax (Post 19005896)

To our friends and colleagues:
CCBILL HAS DISCONTINUED ITS PROCESSING RELATIONSHIPS WITH FILE LOCKER WEBSITES.

Gary Jackson
Managing VP
CCBill

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 19006369)

Great decision. This is going to be a milestone, in a few years from now we'll look back at how CCBill was the first one that made a decision and announcement like this.

Let's hope that Visa, MasterCard and PayPal will be next.

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19006348)

Well done for shaming them into doing this ADG.