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  • raymor
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 3745

    #1

    CAPTCHAS suck. Check out FaceTuring in Strongbox 5.0



    Bryan, TX - June 13 2012 - BetterCGI.com announced Wednesday that it will be releasing the new 5.0 version of the popular Strongbox web site security software, along with a new pricing model.The company has announced that webmasters can get the new version at the old lower price by pre-ordering prior to the July 1st launch.

    The Strongbox system defends web businesses from brute force attacks, stolen or shared passwords, and other threats. Ray Morris, CEO of BetterCGI, explained: "Strongbox 5.0 has a lot of new features to enhance security, and convenience while complementing your site’s appearance. For example the new FaceTuring, a revolutionary new approach that avoids the frustration of CAPTCHAS.”

    Rather than force users to decipher distorted difficult to read text, FaceTuring has the user simply do what humans have done instinctively for millions of years - spot a pretty face. Users simply click on the correct faces, which is ideal for touch screen interactions. Once a user has logged in successfully once, they can be exempt from any future human test at all, a true “one click” log in, Morris said.

    In order to support the continual development and improvement, the pricing model had to be updated, said Morris. “To give webmasters great value, we’ve set aside this two week pre-order period so that webmasters can protect their web sites with the latest technology while still taking advantage of historically low pricing. Orders after that date will be at the new price of $189 setup and $99 per year.”

    "With the upcoming upgrade to Version 5, exclusive features like secure cross-site linking and FaceTuring will only enhance the sense of security that comes with securing your login, and protecting yourself against brute force attacks, site rippers with stolen passwords, and other issues that slow your site down and cost you money."

    Morris repeated that “to take advantage of all of this new technology at the low prices webmasters are used to, they must pre-order by the July 1st launch date by visiting http://bettercgi.com/sb5/ .”



    RMEE Inc is a well known web security company headquartered in Bryan, TX. Since 1997 RMEE has protected many of the most well known sites with their Strongbox, Throttlebox, and Clonebox products.
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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47882

    #2
    How many pics of faces do you have in the database? isn't that obviously a finite number? and so it actually makes it MUCH easier to crack than infinite number of combinations that can be generated using random letters, their positions, angles, etc?
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    • ShoeBox
      So Fucking Banned
      • May 2012
      • 2056

      #3
      de-captcher.info , and everything is always bottable

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      • stever
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2005
        • 1716

        #4
        some ppl are just too dumb to know which are female/male

        i think text is still easier


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        • Freaky_Akula
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          • Oct 2005
          • 3670

          #5

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          • MrCain
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2006
            • 3332

            #6
            Can webmasters use their own pictures and categories? Like "spot the negro" on IR sites or "click the dick" on gay sites.
            Sigmund

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            • BIGTYMER
              Junior Achiever
              • Nov 2004
              • 17066

              #7
              I'd rather clicks pics than decode a text.

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              • raymor
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2002
                • 3745

                #8
                Originally posted by stever
                some ppl are just too dumb to know which are female/male

                i think text is still easier
                So far, every test subject has been 100% successful - even when standing twelve feet away from the screen.
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                • CyberHustler
                  Masterbaiter
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 28735

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MrCain
                  Can webmasters use their own pictures and categories? Like "spot the negro" on IR sites or "click the dick" on gay sites.
                  “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                  • raymor
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3745

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MrCain
                    Can webmasters use their own pictures and categories? Like "spot the negro" on IR sites or "click the dick" on gay sites.
                    Yes, you can use your own images. We can extract faces from your pictures or videos, at no extra charge in some cases. Faces are best - humans are really, really good at faces. Obviously if it was racist, in an offensive way, we wouldn't be involved in that.
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                    • BNMedia
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 433

                      #11
                      Looks interesting. What's the pre-order upgrade price?
                      I can't see it on the order form unless I missed it!?
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                      • VladS
                        Available for Coding Work
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1459

                        #12
                        Hmm, not sure about that. Easier, but still a pain to deal with. Why don't you let them try to login without any captcha or face recognition or whatever and only if they fail to login for X amount of times, pop up the human tests?

                        Perhaps you added this already, no clue, last StrongBox we worked with didn't have it, but it was an older version.

                        You're the expert in this field and i might have failed to take all aspects into consideration, so i'm sure you have a reason if you're not doing it that way, if so, do enlighten me.
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                        • MrCain
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                          • Jun 2006
                          • 3332

                          #13
                          Wasn't meant to be offensive. You could use it on an IR cuckolding site and make it "spot the cuck" or "spot the Bull".
                          Sigmund

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                          • NaughtyRob
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                            • Nov 2004
                            • 29602

                            #14
                            Oh shit another tranny test!
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                            • raymor
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 3745

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gsx-R
                              Why don't you let them try to login without any captcha or face recognition or whatever and only if they fail to login for X amount of times, pop up the human tests?

                              Perhaps you added this already, no clue, last StrongBox we worked with didn't have it, but it was an older version.

                              You're the expert in this field and i might have failed to take all aspects into consideration, so i'm sure you have a reason if you're not doing it that way, if so, do enlighten me.
                              That's a brilliant idea. So brilliant that:

                              Originally posted by raymor
                              FaceTuring has the user simply do what humans have done instinctively for millions of years - spot a pretty face. Users simply click on the correct faces, which is ideal for touch screen interactions. Once a user has logged in successfully once, they can be exempt from any future human test at all, a true “one click” log in
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                              • VladS
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                                • Jun 2008
                                • 1459

                                #16
                                Originally posted by raymor
                                That's a brilliant idea. So brilliant that:
                                That's the other aproach of doing it, yeah. Cool, it's a gread addon indeed.
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                                • VladS
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                                  • Jun 2008
                                  • 1459

                                  #17
                                  It was written in the PR as well, my bad, haven't read that entirely.
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                                  • DamianJ
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2006
                                    • 15808

                                    #18
                                    Cool, chat roulette have been using that for ages. Nice to see another use for it.

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                                    • raymor
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 3745

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by woj
                                      How many pics of faces do you have in the database? isn't that obviously a finite number? and so it actually makes it MUCH easier to crack than infinite number of combinations that can be generated using random letters, their positions, angles, etc?
                                      There are 28 letters in the alphabet. There are 5 billion faces. So faces are roughly 179,000,000 times harder to crack.

                                      The faces are randomly rotated and cropped, so just as one letter can be many images, so too can one face. There are just a LOT more faces to choose from than there are letters.
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                                      • NookieCookie
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                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 117

                                        #20
                                        Great Idea - Will check it out.

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                                        • AdultEUhost
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                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 2579

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by raymor
                                          There are 28 letters in the alphabet. There are 5 billion faces. So faces are roughly 179,000,000 times harder to crack.

                                          The faces are randomly rotated and cropped, so just as one letter can be many images, so too can one face. There are just a LOT more faces to choose from than there are letters.
                                          Mine has only 26 damnit

                                          And I have never seen a captcha displaying just 1 letter, normally is it letters and words making it (26 + 10) 36 per char, so a 5 char long captcha is 36^5 ;)

                                          Congrats on the launch though, it is looking great !
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                                          • raymor
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                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 3745

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AdultEUhost
                                            Mine has only 26 damnit

                                            And I have never seen a captcha displaying just 1 letter, normally is it letters and words making it (26 + 10) 36 per char, so a 5 char long captcha is 36^5 ;)

                                            Congrats on the launch though, it is looking great !
                                            The president added two new letters to use in the names of the 58th and 59th states, the ones he hadn't visited yet. ;)

                                            FaceTuring doesn't have just one face, just as a captcha doesn't have one letter, so that's the same either way and you're left with the fact that there are a lot more faces than there are letters.
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                                            • raymor
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                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 3745

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bnmedia
                                              looks interesting. What's the pre-order upgrade price?
                                              I can't see it on the order form unless i missed it!?
                                              Upgrades are $99.
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                                              • T34K1DD
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                                                • Jun 2012
                                                • 77

                                                #24
                                                I like the old 2+3=

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                                                • raymor
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 3745

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by AdultEUhost
                                                  Mine has only 26 damnit
                                                  Come to think of it, I think I've seen ñ and æ in recaptcha. :; BTW you can also use our recaptcha plugin in Strongbox 5.0 though I prefer mouse only - they may be surfing with one hand busy.
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                                                  • AdultEUhost
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                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                    • 2579

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by raymor
                                                    Come to think of it, I think I've seen ñ and æ in recaptcha. :; BTW you can also use our recaptcha plugin in Strongbox 5.0 though I prefer mouse only - they may be surfing with one hand busy.
                                                    that would be fucked up as I have no idea where those are on my dutch keyboard lol
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                                                    • raymor
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                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 3745

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by AdultEUhost
                                                      that would be fucked up as I have no idea where those are on my dutch keyboard lol

                                                      Ah, so you have ſ and arguably IJ. Without Æ, how do you type Æneas Mackay, former prime minister of your country?
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                                                      • AdultEUhost
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                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 2579

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by raymor
                                                        Ah, so you have ſ and arguably IJ. Without Æ, how do you type Æneas Mackay, former prime minister of your country?
                                                        No idea, i never found myself in that situation.
                                                        Let's hope it stays that way
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                                                        • jmk
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                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 5391

                                                          #29
                                                          I like the idea, could be fine tuned.

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                                                          • SiMpLe
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                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                            • 3221

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by jmk
                                                            I like the idea, could be fine tuned.
                                                            With JMK's ass!! lol
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                                                            • jmk
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                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 5391

                                                              #31
                                                              :D haha

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                                                              • pornmasta
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jun 2006
                                                                • 20016

                                                                #32
                                                                what is a captcha ?

                                                                (i know the answer, but not the strongbox team)

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                                                                • mafia_man
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                  • 1965

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I'm French. What the fuck am I supposed to click?

                                                                  Everyone knows what to do with a captcha. You're going to translate the command into every language your user-base uses.
                                                                  I'm out.

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                                                                  • raymor
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 3745

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by mafia_man
                                                                    I'm French. What the fuck am I supposed to click?

                                                                    Everyone knows what to do with a captcha. You're going to translate the command into every language your user-base uses.
                                                                    Good idea. We'll add support for major languages. CCBill, for example, is available in nine languages. I only speak two, so I'd appreciate any translations people would post. The sentence is "click on the four pictures of WOMEN". (Webmasters choose the word MEN instead.)
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