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  • exportusa
    Registered User
    • May 2012
    • 21

    #1

    Website Owners - If you have non-US subscribers, then you could be paying only a 15% tax rate.

    If you are a US-based website owner (company or sole proprietorship) and have non-US paying subscribers, then you are an exporter. As an exporter you are entitled to exporter tax incentives as written in the IRS tax code that allow you to pay a 15% tax rate on a significant portion of your export income.

    We are a specialty tax consulting firm that offers a full-service turnkey solution which allows you to take advantage of these exporter incentives. We do not replace your existing traditional accountant, but rather work with your existing accountant in this specialized area of the IRS tax code to be sure you are receiving the exporter incentives you are entitled to.

    If you have at least $500,000 in annual non-US subscriber gross revenue, then please check out my profile for more information.
  • Brad Mitchell
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2001
    • 9813

    #2
    Even though you are new to this forum, you have still peaked my curiousity. Please email me with more information about your business.

    Thank you,

    Brad Mitchell
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    • Horny Joe
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2004
      • 2661

      #3
      Well, it sounds reasonable. Got curious about this, too. Got to find my books on international tax from law school and read up.
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      • IllTestYourGirls
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        • Feb 2007
        • 14311

        #4
        If most of my ad buyers are from out side the US would that also be considered exporting? Lets chat.

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        • CurrentlySober
          Too lazy to wipe my ass
          • Aug 2002
          • 38944

          #5
          i cant afford to pay ANY tax - But heres a bump 4 Biz anyway


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          • directfiesta
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 30135

            #6
            Transaction is reputed to have taken place in the USA ( if you are USA website ) .
            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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            • woj
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              • Jul 2002
              • 47882

              #7
              did he contact anyone yet? what's his website?
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              • adultmobile
                No, I am not banned
                • Nov 2003
                • 5345

                #8
                As US company if you are selling online to euro union countries, and willing to pay all the taxes - you should pay some 20% vat on all euro union sales. AFF got some 80 million dollar fine from euro union for not paying this for own subscribers for years. Of course euro tax guys they bust first euro union companies (we are one and paying our vat on euro users from day 1, in fact we like australian sales more than uk ones), then foreign ones who are big, and lastly only the smaller. Godaddy and few other US companies who are too big to be illegal, will add VAT 20% tax to Eu sales, so Eu users tend to go to buy to "illegal" US sellers who do not add the 20% vat tax (but risk it is for the seller, not for who buy, here), this include most adult biz stuff, as for example every $120 you make from cbbill, epoch, zombaio etc., from eu union sales, you should give $20 back to eu union (this is what we do and enjoy tax people being our friends as reward, we can party with them).
                Just saying, my 2 euro cents.

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                • Rochard
                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 75733

                  #9
                  Don't be stupid. We don't pay taxes.
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                  Brooklyn, NY

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                  • raymor
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3745

                    #10
                    This piqued my interest, so I did a little research. Here's what I found. There can be significant savings, but ie's a little complicated. Because of WTO restrictions, export tax laws change significantly every few years. Therefore you have to make sure the information you're reading is up-to-date. Also, with the current adminstration making higher taxes on business a major political theme, what is correct today may not be true tomorrow.

                    This Forbes article gives an introduction:
                    http://www.forbes.com/sites/deanzerb...for-exporters/

                    For a C corporation, an IC-Disc reduces the double tax on profits.
                    For an S corporation, it can reduce the pass through taxable income:
                    http://www.slideshare.net/skfa1982/i...-tax-incentive

                    It's a little complex to set up.
                    Because you set up a separate company to do the international sales and that company pays profits to you as a commission, it looks like MAYBE a biller like Paypal, CCBill or even NATS or MPA could set up one export company that we'd all sell though. That superpad reduce the tax burden by up to 40% and CCBill could charge say a portion of that as a service fee. Lower taxes for us, another fully automated revenue stream for them.
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                    • exportusa
                      Registered User
                      • May 2012
                      • 21

                      #11
                      Hello, everybody and thank you for your interest in my post regarding tax incentives for exporters.

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                      • exportusa
                        Registered User
                        • May 2012
                        • 21

                        #12
                        Originally posted by exportusa
                        Hello, everybody and thank you for your interest in my post regarding tax incentives for exporters.
                        Please allow me to start over. Hello everybody and thank you for your interest in my post regarding exporter tax incentives (IC-DISC). Our website is becpartners.com.

                        I'd like to address some of Raymor's comments:

                        1) The IC-DISC is alive and well and has been a part of and in compliance with the tax code since the early 80's.

                        2) Yes, laws can change. If the laws do change to where the incentive is lessened or zeroed out, then operating companies can simply close down their IC-DISCs and everybody moves on. The tax savings outweighs by a multiple the cost of implementing and maintaining an IC-DISC. If the IC-DISCs need to be shut down, money is not lost. What is lost is the future opportunity to save money on taxes.

                        3) The IC-DISC is not complicated to set up with our full service turn-key IC-DISC solution. We handle just about everything. We incorporate the IC-DISC. We calculate and maximize, via proprietery models, the export commission and tax savings via the tax code. We perform all accounting functions of the IC-DISC. We prepare and sign off on all IC-DISC tax returns, which means we assume professional liability for our work. We perform all of these services and manage the IC-DISC for its entire existence, which we hope is a long time as a result of our clients' continued and growing business. Very little work is required on the part of our clients or their accountants.

                        4) You do not need to book your international sales through the IC-DISC. You continue to do business as usual in your operating company, including your international sales. Based upon your operating company's international sales and profitability, we calculate the maximum amount of export commission that can be paid to the IC-DISC. The sole purpose of the IC-DISC is to collect this export commission and distribute it to the operating company's shareholders at a 15% tax rate. The IC-DISC does not need to perform any other service or do anything else.

                        5) A biller like Paypal, CCBill or even NATS or MPA could not set up an export company as they are not qualified exporters under the IC-DISC incentive. The website owner is the one exporting the qualified product (content). Additionally, the IC-DISC needs to be owned by the shareholders of the operating company in the same percentages as the operating company.

                        In summary, if you own a website that has non-US subscribers, call us and we'll let you know if you qualify for the IC-DISC tax incentive. With a few quick calculations we can also give you an idea of what the tax savings would be if you had an IC-DISC. And most importantly, if you choose to hire us to implement your IC-DISC, you can be assured that the cost of doing so will be handsomely outweighed by the tax savings.

                        Feel free to contact me directly.

                        Brian

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                        • exportusa
                          Registered User
                          • May 2012
                          • 21

                          #13
                          Please allow me to start over. Hello everybody and thank you for your interest in my post regarding exporter tax incentives (IC-DISC). Our website is becpartners.com.

                          I'd like to address some of Raymor's comments:

                          1) The IC-DISC is alive and well and has been a part of and in compliance with the tax code since the early 80's.

                          2) Yes, laws can change. If the laws do change to where the incentive is lessened or zeroed out, then operating companies can simply close down their IC-DISCs and everybody moves on. The tax savings outweighs by a multiple the cost of implementing and maintaining an IC-DISC. If the IC-DISCs need to be shut down, money is not lost. What is lost is the future opportunity to save money on taxes.

                          3) The IC-DISC is not complicated to set up with our full service turn-key IC-DISC solution. We handle just about everything. We incorporate the IC-DISC. We calculate and maximize, via proprietery models, the export commission and tax savings via the tax code. We perform all accounting functions of the IC-DISC. We prepare and sign off on all IC-DISC tax returns, which means we assume professional liability for our work. We perform all of these services and manage the IC-DISC for its entire existence, which we hope is a long time as a result of our clients' continued and growing business. Very little work is required on the part of our clients or their accountants.

                          4) You do not need to book your international sales through the IC-DISC. You continue to do business as usual in your operating company, including your international sales. Based upon your operating company's international sales and profitability, we calculate the maximum amount of export commission that can be paid to the IC-DISC. The sole purpose of the IC-DISC is to collect this export commission and distribute it to the operating company's shareholders at a 15% tax rate. The IC-DISC does not need to perform any other service or do anything else.

                          5) A biller like Paypal, CCBill or even NATS or MPA could not set up an export company as they are not qualified exporters under the IC-DISC incentive. The website owner is the one exporting the qualified product (content). Additionally, the IC-DISC needs to be owned by the shareholders of the operating company in the same percentages as the operating company.

                          In summary, if you own a website that has non-US subscribers, call us and we'll let you know if you qualify for the IC-DISC tax incentive. With a few quick calculations we can also give you an idea of what the tax savings would be if you had an IC-DISC. And most importantly, if you choose to hire us to implement your IC-DISC, you can be assured that the cost of doing so will be handsomely outweighed by the tax savings.

                          Feel free to contact me directly.

                          Brian

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                          • directfiesta
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 30135

                            #14
                            Please allow me to ....
                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                            • brassmonkey
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                              • Sep 2005
                              • 77396

                              #15
                              fuck taxes
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                              • exportusa
                                Registered User
                                • May 2012
                                • 21

                                #16
                                Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                fuck taxes
                                While we here in the US can't "fuck taxes", we certainly can do everything possible to reduce them, which our firm, BEC Partners, does.

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                                • CPimp
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2009
                                  • 2346

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                  fuck taxes


                                  In the USA, taxes fuck you.
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                                  • exportusa
                                    Registered User
                                    • May 2012
                                    • 21

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CPimp
                                    In the USA, taxes fuck you.
                                    We definitely help reduce the tax burden for website (paysite) owners.

                                    becpartners.com

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                                    • DamianJ
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2006
                                      • 15808

                                      #19
                                      First post was quite good, subsequent posts, not so much.

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                                      • exportusa
                                        Registered User
                                        • May 2012
                                        • 21

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                                        First post was quite good, subsequent posts, not so much.
                                        Thank you for your feedback.

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                                        • exportusa
                                          Registered User
                                          • May 2012
                                          • 21

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                          If most of my ad buyers are from out side the US would that also be considered exporting? Lets chat.
                                          Yes, you are exporting but unfortunately, the ad revenue does not qualify for the IC-DISC incentive. The incentive is limited mainly to physical products, which content is considered. The only services that qualify are architectural and engineering. In your case you're exporting an ad placement service, which does not qualify.

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                                          • Brad Mitchell
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2001
                                            • 9813

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by exportusa
                                            Yes, you are exporting but unfortunately, the ad revenue does not qualify for the IC-DISC incentive. The incentive is limited mainly to physical products, which content is considered. The only services that qualify are architectural and engineering. In your case you're exporting an ad placement service, which does not qualify.
                                            Is software licensing, technical support, rental of physical infrastructure (servers, network)eligible?

                                            Brad
                                            President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                            71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                            • exportusa
                                              Registered User
                                              • May 2012
                                              • 21

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                              Is software licensing, technical support, rental of physical infrastructure (servers, network)eligible?

                                              Brad
                                              Checking, Brad - let you know shortly.

                                              Brian

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                                              • XSV
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2001
                                                • 1214

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                Is software licensing, technical support, rental of physical infrastructure (servers, network)eligible?

                                                Brad
                                                Curious about this as well.
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                                                • The Porn Nerd
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                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                  • 19787

                                                  #25
                                                  I like the sound of this...
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                                                  • exportusa
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • May 2012
                                                    • 21

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                                                    I like the sound of this...
                                                    Feel free to contact me directly. I'd be happy to discuss what we can do for you.

                                                    Brian

                                                    becpartners.com

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                                                    • exportusa
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • May 2012
                                                      • 21

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                                      Is software licensing, technical support, rental of physical infrastructure (servers, network)eligible?

                                                      Brad
                                                      Brad - I sent you an email re this. We might be able to do something for you under the incentive.

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                                                      • exportusa
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • May 2012
                                                        • 21

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by XSV
                                                        Curious about this as well.
                                                        We may be able to do something for you under the incentive. Email me:

                                                        brian at becpartners.com

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