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  • gimme-website
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2008
    • 1589

    #1

    My public "sorry" to Fris

    There isn't going to be one.....Simple as that.

    I had every right to investigate what I did. I had every right to ask the questions I asked.
    And I had ever right to share the information I was being told.
    It was in the public interest. And in my mind, its still not cleared up. And never will be.

    As can be seen in a selection of replies i recived this morning.
    Hi Anna,

    I can tell you that this is not true. We offer an affiliate program
    with profit sharing for customers generated through affiliate links
    but I do not believe that this is something we have done. We rely on
    our customers to continue working on theme development and pirates
    like this hurt us a lot.

    Ryan - deluxethemes

    On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Anna GW <[email protected]> wrote:
    > He is saying he has a dev licence/ GPL licence and he can do what he wants..
    > including reselling/redistrubution.
    But what I will do is this. I was contacted by your "money rinser".. and he has implored me to keep his name out of this. I will honour his request.

    Ive also been asked to complete one of your unfinished projects by a client of yours.
    I've taken a look and its a 4 hour job...It looks like 1 hour has been spent so far.
    Your quote $450.. My estimate is $250... but im prolly gonna do it for free.. Lets call it goodwill and you've earnt an easy $450.

    Peace. I hope you can get back to work soon. xxx
    www.gimme-website.com
  • Oracle Porn
    Affiliate
    • Oct 2002
    • 24433

    #2
    Wow you are such an asshole, I would never do business with you.

    For the record I've never done $1 worth of business with fris. But you are just on a different level.


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    • gimme-website
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2008
      • 1589

      #3
      Originally posted by Oracle Porn
      Wow you are such an asshole, I would never do business with you.

      For the record I've never done $1 worth of business with fris. But you are just on a different level.
      Groove on
      www.gimme-website.com

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      • looky_lou
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2003
        • 1771

        #4
        Get off your high horse.

        Sure you had a right to asks the questions and post your findings. But the way you have projected yourself and your attitude are a real negative. You have done nothing with this issue to gain any respect for your professional reputation.

        With that said, I know that I would never hire you to do anything now.

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        • lucas131
          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
          • Aug 2004
          • 11475

          #5
          oh man ... hope you have all your software bought, photoshop and other, all original?

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          • Don Imus
            Registered User
            • Apr 2007
            • 27

            #6
            Originally posted by looky_lou

            Say hi to Biggy for me and please ask him when I might get paid from Melissa Midwest.
            As the OP states in the other thread.

            'Ill fight for anyone whose trying to earn an honest living. And I will equaly challenge those that choose to earn their money off the backs of other peoples hard work.'

            Should probably resign from her job!

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            • HomeFry
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2006
              • 1062

              #7
              Originally posted by lucas131
              oh man ... hope you have all your software bought, photoshop and other, all original?
              She keeps dodging that question. My guess is "No".

              She simply doesn't "Get It". It doesn't matter what these theme developers / owners say in emails to her. Only parts of their themes are legally protected at best, and I would bet that 95% of them don't even understand the law. So for her to keep on this tirade of abuse is simply ridiculous. We can't assume that these companies she is quoting even understand the law, so why in the fuck is she trying to understand it through them?

              If she's so butt-hurt about Fris and really wants to understand, why doesn't she go pay an attorney to teach her exactly what is right and wrong with the GPL license and whether Fris is in the wrong or not, and then go get a second opinion.

              Disseminating bad information is not in the public interest. Just because she has a source does not make that information good.

              Go educate yourself, you fat hog, or shut the fuck up already. You have no clue what you are going on about and you keep making yourself look dumber and dumber every time you try to post about it.
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              • HomeFry
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2006
                • 1062

                #8
                I mean seriously, what she did here by asking the theme owners about GPL & Licensing is like going to a retard hospital and asking the retard about his condition, then going to a forum full of retards and conveying the condition verbatim.

                Stupid. Go ask an expert.
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                • acrylix
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 362

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gimme-website
                  There isn't going to be one.....Simple as that.

                  I had every right to investigate what I did. I had every right to ask the questions I asked.
                  And I had ever right to share the information I was being told.
                  It was in the public interest. And in my mind, its still not cleared up. And never will be.

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                  • Tofu
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5615

                    #10
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                    • ottopottomouse
                      She is ugly, bad luck.
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 13177

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gimme-website
                      Hi Anna,

                      I can tell you that this is not true. We offer an affiliate program
                      with profit sharing for customers generated through affiliate links
                      but I do not believe that this is something we have done. We rely on
                      our customers to continue working on theme development and pirates
                      like this hurt us a lot.

                      Ryan - deluxethemes

                      On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Anna GW <[email protected]> wrote:
                      > He is saying he has a dev licence/ GPL licence and he can do what he wants..
                      > including reselling/redistrubution.
                      Why do you need to email them questions?
                      Originally posted by http://deluxethemes.com/terms-and-conditions/
                      1. Theme Licensing & Usage

                      All our WordPress themes are licensed under the GNU general public license.
                      Originally posted by http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney
                      Does the GPL allow me to sell copies of the program for money? (#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney)

                      Yes, the GPL allows everyone to do this. The right to sell copies is part of the definition of free software. Except in one special situation, there is no limit on what price you can charge. (The one exception is the required written offer to provide source code that must accompany binary-only release.)
                      Does the GPL allow me to charge a fee for downloading the program from my site?

                      Yes. You can charge any fee you wish for distributing a copy of the program. If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide ?equivalent access? to download the source?therefore, the fee to download source may not be greater than the fee to download the binary.
                      Does the GPL allow me to require that anyone who receives the software must pay me a fee and/or notify me? (#DoesTheGPLAllowRequireFee)

                      No. In fact, a requirement like that would make the program non-free. If people have to pay when they get a copy of a program, or if they have to notify anyone in particular, then the program is not free. See the definition of free software.

                      The GPL is a free software license, and therefore it permits people to use and even redistribute the software without being required to pay anyone a fee for doing so.
                      If I distribute GPL'd software for a fee, am I required to also make it available to the public without a charge? (#DoesTheGPLRequireAvailabilityToPublic)

                      No. However, if someone pays your fee and gets a copy, the GPL gives them the freedom to release it to the public, with or without a fee. For example, someone could pay your fee, and then put her copy on a web site for the general public.
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                      • anexsia
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2010
                        • 5735

                        #12
                        Talk about backfire....fris is a good dude and I can't even count all the times that he has helped out many GFY users for FREE. Just the other week he developed his own wordpress link theme and let everyone here download it for FREE. Have a wordpress question? Hit up fris and he'll always give you advice. Looking for suggestions on good wordpress themes to use? Fris will always post some to help you out.

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                        • CurrentlySober
                          Too lazy to wipe my ass
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 38940

                          #13
                          Originally posted by acrylix
                          Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?
                          Last edited by CurrentlySober; 06-09-2012, 03:29 AM.


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                          • Harmon
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 20012

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                            Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?
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                            • u-Bob
                              there's no $$$ in porn
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 33063

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gimme-website
                              It was in the public interest.
                              Wait, what? The "public interest"? Whenever I hear that, it immediately sets off a few alarm bells. Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as the "public interest". There is only the interest of each individual human being. I don't know you, but usually when people claim to have the public interest at heart, they actually have other intentions.

                              First you attack Fris. Then you say you're not attacking him. Then you basically apologize. And then you start a new thread pretending to be apologizing, but you're actually attacking him again...

                              Like I said: I don't know you. But the way you've been handling this whole mess doesn't reflect well on you.

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                              • Nasty
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 1575

                                #16
                                And The Asshole of the Year Award Goes To ...

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                                • candyflip
                                  Carpe Visio
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 43069

                                  #17
                                  You are by far the biggest cunt to grace the pages of GFY.

                                  I'm sure you're proud of that too.

                                  Spend you some brain.
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                                  • Freaky_Akula
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 3670

                                    #18

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                                    • Quagmire
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 6490

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by gimme-website
                                      There isn't going to be one.....Simple as that.

                                      I had every right to investigate what I did. I had every right to ask the questions I asked.
                                      And I had ever right to share the information I was being told.
                                      It was in the public interest. And in my mind, its still not cleared up. And never will be.
                                      The reason it isn't cleared up in your mind is because you didn't investigate anything relating to what GPL is and how it works. An investigation would involve doing more than going to people offering something and asking them their opinion.

                                      You didn't investigate anything. You went on a witch-hunt, plain and simple.

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                                      • geedub
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2005
                                        • 3489

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                                        Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?
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                                        • u-Bob
                                          there's no $$$ in porn
                                          • Jul 2005
                                          • 33063

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Quagmire
                                          The reason it isn't cleared up in your mind is because you didn't investigate anything relating to what GPL is and how it works. An investigation would involve doing more than going to people offering something and asking them their opinion.
                                          Even if the GPL didn't apply, there's still the issue of the developer licenses. In that case he would still have had the right to sell "installations of the (majority(?) of the) themes/plugins" even if he didn't have the right to resell the scripts themselves.

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                                          • Slew_
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                                            • Mar 2012
                                            • 239

                                            #22
                                            Geeeezus.. Never had a problem with sir fris...
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                                            • CaptainHowdy
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                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 94727

                                              #23
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                                              • MrCain
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                                                • Jun 2006
                                                • 3332

                                                #24
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                                                • Lace
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                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 16116

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                                  Wow you are such an asshole, I would never do business with you.

                                                  For the record I've never done $1 worth of business with fris. But you are just on a different level.
                                                  +1.

                                                  You have not only made a fool of yourself, but if in fact you do work for FUC and Biggy, you've made them look like idiots for hiring such an idiotic person who would rather spend time creating lies and trying to tarnish the reputations of others than actually being productive.
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                                                  • candyflip
                                                    Carpe Visio
                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 43069

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                    Even if the GPL didn't apply, there's still the issue of the developer licenses. In that case he would still have had the right to sell "installations of the (majority(?) of the) themes/plugins" even if he didn't have the right to resell the scripts themselves.
                                                    Exactly. He is/was good on two fronts.

                                                    This chick had no other intention than to cause trouble. She knew exactly what the fuck she was doing, but also knows she can play the innocent, cute chick and most of the morons here will look the other way.

                                                    Fuck that.

                                                    Spend you some brain.
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                                                    • KingNigel
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                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 1756

                                                      #27
                                                      Fris has always been good to me.

                                                      He is one of the few helpful people on gfy.
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                                                      • CyberHustler
                                                        Masterbaiter
                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                        • 28725

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by gimme-website
                                                        As can be seen in a selection of replies i recived this morning.


                                                        But what I will do is this. I was contacted by your "money rinser".. and he has implored me to keep his name out of this. I will honour his request.

                                                        Ive also been asked to complete one of your unfinished projects by a client of yours.
                                                        I've taken a look and its a 4 hour job...It looks like 1 hour has been spent so far.
                                                        Your quote $450.. My estimate is $250... but im prolly gonna do it for free.. Lets call it goodwill and you've earnt an easy $450.

                                                        Peace. I hope you can get back to work soon. xxx
                                                        This whole part right here, IMHO, proves you weren't doing anything other than looking out for YOUR OWN interests this whole time... you fucked up.
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                                                        • candyflip
                                                          Carpe Visio
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 43069

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                          This whole part right here, IMHO, proves you weren't doing anything other than looking out for YOUR OWN interests this whole time... you fucked up.
                                                          BINGO. She's just playing dumb. She knew exactly what she was doing and what she was up to.

                                                          She insinuated that he was selling "warez" right from the get go.

                                                          Spend you some brain.
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                                                          • candyflip
                                                            Carpe Visio
                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                            • 43069

                                                            #30
                                                            And...the company she's quoting in the first post of this thread releases their shit under the general GNU license. Which again gives fris the rights to do what he did.

                                                            Spend you some brain.
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                                                            • acrylix
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                              • 362

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                                                              Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?

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                                                              • Jakez
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 5656

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                BINGO. She's just playing dumb. She knew exactly what she was doing and what she was up to.

                                                                She insinuated that he was selling "warez" right from the get go.
                                                                Ban the cunt.
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                                                                • kazbalah
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                                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                                  • 1215

                                                                  #33
                                                                  lol u guys got too much free time..
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                                                                  • Horny Joe
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                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 2661

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by anexsia
                                                                    Talk about backfire....fris is a good dude and I can't even count all the times that he has helped out many GFY users for FREE. Just the other week he developed his own wordpress link theme and let everyone here download it for FREE. Have a wordpress question? Hit up fris and he'll always give you advice. Looking for suggestions on good wordpress themes to use? Fris will always post some to help you out.
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                                                                    • Failed
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                                                                      • Mar 2011
                                                                      • 2301

                                                                      #35
                                                                      A person interested in honesty and fighting for public interest, that works for FuckYouCash And, an apology thread with no apology

                                                                      Thanks for the laughs

                                                                      Fris, the man who responds to emails, questions, offers free help, and even a free theme he developed comes out clean, as he should. And you, well the picture above is fitting.
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                                                                      • freecartoonporn
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                                                                        • Jan 2012
                                                                        • 7683

                                                                        #36
                                                                        i vote ban.
                                                                        you are such a cunt.
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                                                                        • globofun
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                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                          • 2651

                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • L-Pink
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                                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                                            • 39151

                                                                            #38

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                                                                            • Freaky_Akula
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                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                              • 3670

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I vote BAN!

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                                                                              • raymor
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                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 3745

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                                                                Wow you are such an asshole, I would never do business with you.

                                                                                For the record I've never done $1 worth of business with fris. But you are just on a different level.
                                                                                +1

                                                                                I'm going to go ask FRIS if he can help with line feeds being inserted into posts now.
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                                                                                • raymor
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                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 3745

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Lesson from this - when someone is attacking you, sometimes it's best to shut up and let them talk themselves into an asshole award, rather than engaging them.
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                                                                                  • candyflip
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                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                    • 43069

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by raymor
                                                                                    Lesson from this - when someone is attacking you, sometimes it's best to shut up and let them talk themselves into an asshole award, rather than engaging them.
                                                                                    This all did eventually blow up in her face. That's what happens when you try to stir up shit and have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      snitches get stitches

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                                                                                      • B.Barnato
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                                                                                        • 3618

                                                                                        #44

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                                                                                        • globofun
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                                                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                                                          • 2651

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Wow! Can we do some biz?

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                                                                                          • Inter-Sex
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                                                                                            • 2231

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                                                                                            Dude - Some of us are here to do business... Do you REALLY need to post such disgusting images?
                                                                                            That's a whole different response as that I did expect from you?
                                                                                            You're ok mate ?

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                                                                                            • CaptainHowdy
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                              • 94727

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                                                              Of children, dumb women, and death ...
                                                                                              Fixed that for me ...

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                                                                                              • TheSquealer
                                                                                                Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                                • Oct 2004
                                                                                                • 26174

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by gimme-website
                                                                                                There isn't going to be one.....Simple as that.

                                                                                                I had every right to investigate what I did. I had every right to ask the questions I asked.
                                                                                                And I had ever right to share the information I was being told.
                                                                                                It was in the public interest. And in my mind, its still not cleared up. And never will be.

                                                                                                As can be seen in a selection of replies i recived this morning.


                                                                                                But what I will do is this. I was contacted by your "money rinser".. and he has implored me to keep his name out of this. I will honour his request.

                                                                                                Ive also been asked to complete one of your unfinished projects by a client of yours.
                                                                                                I've taken a look and its a 4 hour job...It looks like 1 hour has been spent so far.
                                                                                                Your quote $450.. My estimate is $250... but im prolly gonna do it for free.. Lets call it goodwill and you've earnt an easy $450.
                                                                                                Last edited by TheSquealer; 06-09-2012, 07:25 AM.
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                                                                                                • Sly
                                                                                                  Let's do some business!
                                                                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                                                                  • 31376

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                  Wait, what? The "public interest"? Whenever I hear that, it immediately sets off a few alarm bells. Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as the "public interest". There is only the interest of each individual human being. I don't know you, but usually when people claim to have the public interest at heart, they actually have other intentions.

                                                                                                  First you attack Fris. Then you say you're not attacking him. Then you basically apologize. And then you start a new thread pretending to be apologizing, but you're actually attacking him again...

                                                                                                  Like I said: I don't know you. But the way you've been handling this whole mess doesn't reflect well on you.
                                                                                                  No action takes place without self-interest in mind. Even if the action highly benefits another.
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                                                                                                  • u-Bob
                                                                                                    there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                                                                    • 33063

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                    No action takes place without self-interest in mind. Even if the action highly benefits another.
                                                                                                    very true.

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