Roids are getting too trendy

[chaze]

How crazy do you have to be to do roids?? People are dieing left and right in their early twenty's and still getting massive fan pages.

[blackmonsters]

Roids are stupid because they don't work without YOU WORKING and the reason
most people want roids is that they don't want to work.

And finally, when you turn forty your muscles shrink; but the non-roid user does not
shrink that much and stays good looking longer.

Get the muscle size you want without roids and it will last into older age.

[Choopa Phil]

Really when u turn 40 ur muscles shrink? You mean when you hit your peak maturity your testosterone levels begin to drop, therefore your body can not maintain the amount of muscle mass on its frame due to lack of these hormones. It happens in both people who use and do not use anabolics, not more or less to either one.

[Sunny Day]

Roids make your bones brittle.
Found out the hard way. Was in the hospital and got some for arthritis treatment. Now have a titanium hip thanks to those Roids.
Only very stupid people take them. You really need those big muscles???

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Really when u turn 40 ur muscles shrink? You mean when you hit your peak maturity your testosterone levels begin to drop, therefore your body can not maintain the amount of muscle mass on its frame due to lack of these hormones. It happens in both people who use and do not use anabolics, not more or less to either one.

Not true
because prolong roids reduce the output of natural hormones permanently by shrinking the testicles.

I said 40 because I'm talking about "mild use", people shrink like raisins in their 20's after dropping roids when used in bodybuilding amounts.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding

Performance enhancing substances

Often bodybuilders use drugs such as anabolic steroids and precursor substances such as prohormones to increase muscle hypertrophy. Anabolic steroids cause muscle hypertrophy of both types (I and II) of muscle fibers caused likely by an increased synthesis of muscle proteins and are accompanied with undesired side effects including hepatotoxicity, gynecomastia, acne, male pattern baldness and a decline in the body's own testosterone production, which can cause testicular atrophy.[26][27][28] Other performance enhancing substances used by competitive bodybuilders include human growth hormone (HGH), which can cause acromegaly.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Sunny Day

Roids make your bones brittle.
Found out the hard way. Was in the hospital and got some for arthritis treatment. Now have a titanium hip thanks to those Roids.
Only very stupid people take them. You really need those big muscles???

roids cut the blood flow to the hips if over used. use T myself with out any issue due to my age.. . prescribed from a dr btw

[Sunny Day]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

roids cut the blood flow to the hips if over used. use T myself with out any issue due to my age.. . prescribed from a dr btw

I took 5 Decadrons. One a day for 5 days. Is that overuse?? All under doctors orders. Had a friend, she took one and lost both hips and a shoulder.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Sunny Day

I took 5 Decadrons. One a day for 5 days. Is that overuse?? All under doctors orders. Had a friend, she took one and lost both hips and a shoulder.

kinda skeptical about that one... just know the orthopedic surgeon I spoke with before starting T told me he sees hip replacements in heavy steroid users due to loss of blood flow in the hips.

if you took 5 pills and lost a hip... something strange is going on for sure

[uniquemkt]

I took roids for a while because my balls were so big I needed them to shrink so I could wear normal swim trunks

[CyberHustler]

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Get the muscle size you want without roids and it will last into older age.

LOL! No it won't! Men LOSE testosterone as they age.

Because of medical science you can NOW replace that testosterone and keep your body muscular and lean into old age.

What you're saying is just completely false. Hell, I can stop going to the gym for a couple of weeks and my body turns to shit.

No way in hell you could build muscle and make it "last into older age" It doesn't work that way. And no, you can't build any kind of real muscle without testosterone in your system.

That's why older men look and feel like shit. And that's why millions of people are now on testosterone therapy.

The real question for this thread should be: How stupid are you to be older than 40 and NOT be on "roids" (talking testosterone injections)

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by Robbie

LOL! No it won't! Men LOSE testosterone as they age.

Because of medical science you can NOW replace that testosterone and keep your body muscular and lean into old age.

What you're saying is just completely false. Hell, I can stop going to the gym for a couple of weeks and my body turns to shit.

No way in hell you could build muscle and make it "last into older age" It doesn't work that way. And no, you can't build any kind of real muscle without testosterone in your system.

That's why older men look and feel like shit. And that's why millions of people are now on testosterone therapy.

The real question for this thread should be: How stupid are you to be older than 40 and NOT be on "roids" (talking testosterone injections)

Hey robbie, what was that site that you recommended in another thread?

[sandman!]

people are dumb

[bns666]

no need to use roids, modern natural t-boosters with tribulus terrestis and tongkat ali work quite fine.

[Sunny Day]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

kinda skeptical about that one... just know the orthopedic surgeon I spoke with before starting T told me he sees hip replacements in heavy steroid users due to loss of blood flow in the hips.

if you took 5 pills and lost a hip... something strange is going on for sure

It only affects a few people, but it happens. We just happened to be those people. I'm just saying why take the risk?

I saw 2 specialists. The second one asked me dozens of questions about the cause. Steroids was the only possible answer.

http://www.drugs.com/pro/decadron.html

Read the side effects. Loss of bone mass.

[Robbie]

Dr. Life is now here in Vegas. Just watch the video. And learn:
http://www.wpix.com/health/drstevesh...7098.htmlstory

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by bns666

no need to use roids, modern natural t-boosters with tribulus terrestis and tongkat ali work quite fine.

Won't do a thing for an older man. Won't even move the gauge. Easy way is to have your test levels checked via bloodwork. But you'll know before then because your body will be softer, your blood pressure bad, your cock won't work, and your mind will be foggy compared to when you were younger.

[bns666]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Won't do a thing for an older man. Won't even move the gauge. Easy way is to have your test levels checked via bloodwork. But you'll know before then because your body will be softer, your blood pressure bad, your cock won't work, and your mind will be foggy compared to when you were younger.

i'm 34 now so enough time until that age

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by chaze

How crazy do you have to be to do roids?? People are dieing left and right in their early twenty's and still getting massive fan pages.

people who die from steroid damage have massive fan pages on facebook? why?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by bns666

i'm 34 now so enough time until that age

Yeah, you're probably still producing enough natural testosterone to be okay and to even get a little boost from tribulus too.

I started using it when I was 39. I didn't want to wait until I was totally screwed so I jumped on it when I first started feeling shitty all the time.

Just used Andro Gel at first (was scared of needles). But a couple of different doctors flat out told me that my results would be 100% better via intra-muscular injection. So I gave that a "shot" so to speak.

Wow. It was like night and day.
I'm 50 years old now. And I look and feel great. Go to the gym for an hour 4 days a week and TRY not to eat too much crappy food (still eat pizza and McDonald's too...just try not to overdo it)

[dillonaire]

Originally Posted by bns666

i'm 34 now so enough time until that age

Wrong. Your test starts to decline in your mid 30's.

[d-null]

tribulus does nothing to testosterone levels, that is a total myth

decadron is not an anabolic steroid, it is a corticosteroid, huge difference

[bns666]

Originally Posted by d-null

tribulus does nothing to testosterone levels, that is a total myth

decadron is not an anabolic steroid, it is a corticosteroid, huge difference

must be a placebo effect then

[CaptainHowdy]

We are meant to exaggerate...

[uno]

Welcome to the late 90s.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Won't do a thing for an older man. Won't even move the gauge. Easy way is to have your test levels checked via bloodwork. But you'll know before then because your body will be softer, your blood pressure bad, your cock won't work, and your mind will be foggy compared to when you were younger.

we're not meant to live forever robbie. we all get old.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Sunny Day

You really need those big muscles???

choopa phil does.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

we're not meant to live forever robbie. we all get old.

Yes we do get old. But we don't have to have a shitty QUALITY of life.

You can feel good, stay fit, have an active life and sex life. It takes work and keeping your test levels at the proper level for a man.

Why would anyone choose to not do that? Life is too short not to be healthy and make the most of it.

People didn't live past their 30's in general up until very recently in history. So our bodies stop producing testosterone levels needed when you get to that age..evolution hasn't caught up.
But modern medicine, nutrition, and sanitary changes in our lifestyles now have us living a LOT longer.

Nobody bats an eye when women take Estrogen to replace it when their bodies stop producing it. And yet, some guys are completely negative about replacing what your body stopped making that is the very essence of your manhood!

Oh well. I opt to feel and look good for as long as I can. This ride called "life" doesn't last very long and I want to enjoy it as long as I can.

[tical]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Dr. Life is now here in Vegas. Just watch the video. And learn:
http://www.wpix.com/health/drstevesh...7098.htmlstory

I saw Dr. Life the other day on Charleston... the dude is in phenomenal shape for his age. I remembered him from ages ago when Bill Phillips (Muscle Media 2000) ran that Body for Life contest.

The only thing that sucks about Dr. Life is that Cenegenics is a HUGE rip off... they want something like a few grand just to get you in the door.

It's crazy. But they have their demographic down very well.Boutique medicine for successful men... you should see the outside of their offices, I swear they have like 2 or 3 Maserati's parked every day in Cenegenics parking spaces along with another couple S65 Mercedes, etc.

My orthodontist is in the same building

[FreeHugeMovies]

Some really dumb posts in here

[anexsia]

Are those gels you can get considered steroids or no? I remember using a gel called "T Gel" or something while lifting weights when I was younger...you just rubbed it on a patch of your skin, that shit would make me feel so weird, stopped using it after a few months.

[tical]

Originally Posted by anexsia

Are those gels you can get considered steroids or no? I remember using a gel called "T Gel" or something while lifting weights when I was younger...you just rubbed it on a patch of your skin, that shit would make me feel so weird, stopped using it after a few months.

Yup. The gels/creams are "steroids" - basically just bioidentical testosterone for pussies that are scared of needles

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by anexsia

Are those gels you can get considered steroids or no? I remember using a gel called "T Gel" or something while lifting weights when I was younger...you just rubbed it on a patch of your skin, that shit would make me feel so weird, stopped using it after a few months.

T Gel is a dandruff shampoo

T Gel lifts the weight of dandruff off your shoulders

[CurrentlySober]

I'd like to use anniebollocks if I could afford them...

[nico-t]

i dont understand people who voluntarily use stuff that shrinks your balls.

[pornmasta]

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by tical

Yup. The gels/creams are "steroids" - basically just bioidentical testosterone for pussies that are scared of needles

And have a terribly bioavailability. you can cover yourself from head to toe in testosterone cream and you still wouldnt get any where near as much as if you would from an intramuscular injection. And there are ways to keep your testicles functioning properly while using AAS, its called HCG.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by bushwacker

Hey robbie, what was that site that you recommended in another thread?

was it www.mysogonisticcokehead.com/mullet.html

?

[PR_Glen]

my dad is 63 5'9 150lbs (the same weight he's been since he was 18) perfectly lean, strong and in good shape. He hasn't gone to a gym 1 day in his whole life no less use any supplements. He just eats healthy and gets his exercise from his job, walking and working in the garden. All his brothers (two that are older) are just as strong and healthy. Why? it's not genetics. It's because they take care of themselves and don't eat garbage. Give it a shot.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yes we do get old. But we don't have to have a shitty QUALITY of life.

You can feel good, stay fit, have an active life and sex life. It takes work and keeping your test levels at the proper level for a man.

Why would anyone choose to not do that? Life is too short not to be healthy and make the most of it.

People didn't live past their 30's in general up until very recently in history. So our bodies stop producing testosterone levels needed when you get to that age..evolution hasn't caught up.
But modern medicine, nutrition, and sanitary changes in our lifestyles now have us living a LOT longer.

Nobody bats an eye when women take Estrogen to replace it when their bodies stop producing it. And yet, some guys are completely negative about replacing what your body stopped making that is the very essence of your manhood!

Oh well. I opt to feel and look good for as long as I can. This ride called "life" doesn't last very long and I want to enjoy it as long as I can.

It all sounds decent (aside from jabbing a needle in yourself daily) and many doctors aren't recommending estrogen replacement therapy anymore due to side effects. man likes to pretend he is above his own mortality, there has to be a catch to it all.. is it hard on your heart or other organs, side effects, etc. Its something i'd consider in a few years probably (34 now) but it seems hard to get and is there any long term studies of the effects of using it for 20-30 years because you can't just stop. once you start is a lifelong dependency so you want to make sure you're making the right choice. what is artificial testosterone made of?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

my dad is 63 5'9 150lbs (the same weight he's been since he was 18) perfectly lean, strong and in good shape. He hasn't gone to a gym 1 day in his whole life no less use any supplements. He just eats healthy and gets his exercise from his job, walking and working in the garden. All his brothers (two that are older) are just as strong and healthy. Why? it's not genetics. It's because they take care of themselves and don't eat garbage. Give it a shot.

He may be a skinny guy. But it doesn't mean that he has a healthy level of testosterone. A blood test for free t would confirm that quickly.

I read a doctors report that said the average man of 60 has LESS testosterone in their body than an 18 year old girl. And testosterone is what makes you a man. If your dad's testosterone levels were where they should be he would feel even better and be even more healthy and strong.

Nothing wrong with "better" is there?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

It all sounds decent (aside from jabbing a needle in yourself daily)

You don't jab yourself with a needle daily. That's diabetics with insulin.

Once a week is more than enough. And I knew a guy who is in his 20's but had a genetic testosterone deficiency who took injections once every 2 weeks.

The misinformation about men's hormones is pretty bad out there.

Bottom line: the average man's body creates the MOST testosterone by the time they are 18 years old (that's why your dick was always hard all day long). By the time your 30...production is decreasing FAST. By the time you are middle-aged...you're practically a girl (hormonally speaking).

But we aren't cavemen living to the rip old age of 32 anymore. We have made huge strides in medicine and sanitation that now have healthy folks living to be 100 years old.

Even if you only make it to 80...you are going to live the majority of your life with low testosterone levels. But you don't have to. And tens of millions of men in the U.S. go to the doctor and take care of that.

You want to know why guys like George Clooney and Brad Pitt are 50 years old and look great? Hollywood stars have been taking advantage of modern science for decades now.
Hell, they are taking test and HGH and kicking ass.

You can too if you choose to. Just don't mess with it until you are around 40.

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

It all sounds decent (aside from jabbing a needle in yourself daily) and many doctors aren't recommending estrogen replacement therapy anymore due to side effects. man likes to pretend he is above his own mortality, there has to be a catch to it all.. is it hard on your heart or other organs, side effects, etc. Its something i'd consider in a few years probably (34 now) but it seems hard to get and is there any long term studies of the effects of using it for 20-30 years because you can't just stop. once you start is a lifelong dependency so you want to make sure you're making the right choice. what is artificial testosterone made of?

1. You dont jab yourself every day. an HRT based testosterone is usually a more prolonged released testosterone (long ester) Usually Testosterone Cypionate Or Testosterone Decanoate. These only need to be used 1x per week for Cyp, or 1x every 10 days for Dec.

2. There are no negative side effects associated with bringing your levels back to normal homeostasis. You have to realize HRT is different than taking anabolics for the sole reason of mass building. An HRT dose is about 150-250mg per week where as a Muscle building dose ranges anywhere from 500-1000mg per week.

3. Artificial testosterone is synthesized in a lab and come from plant sterols from yams or soy.

[BareBacked]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

And have a terribly bioavailability. you can cover yourself from head to toe in testosterone cream and you still wouldnt get any where near as much as if you would from an intramuscular injection. And there are ways to keep your testicles functioning properly while using AAS, its called HCG.

Are you on steroids?

[Choopa Phil]

No I do not. I will be competing an an all natural NPC polygraphed show in august.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Not true
because prolong roids reduce the output of natural hormones permanently by shrinking the testicles.

I said 40 because I'm talking about "mild use", people shrink like raisins in their 20's after dropping roids when used in bodybuilding amounts.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding

the reduction is not permanent...even without post cycle therapy your natural serum testosterone will return to normal...even if your balls literally shrink to raisins they can be restored in less than a week with some post cycle therapy or even during the cycle...I can make my balls large like mandarins and shoot cum like a horse if I wanted...

you simply do not know the difference between an educated user and the average dip shit kid who is looking for a short cut...

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

the reduction is not permanent...even without post cycle therapy your natural serum testosterone will return to normal...even if your balls literally shrink to raisins they can be restored in less than a week with some post cycle therapy or even during the cycle...I can make my balls large like mandarins and shoot cum like a horse if I wanted...

you simply do not know the difference between an educated user and the average dip shit kid who is looking for a short cut...

testicular size is not a direct correlation of your levels being back to normal. it can take up to 3 months. Only true way to tell is with a blood test

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

testicular size is not a direct correlation of your levels being back to normal. it can take up to 3 months. Only true way to tell is with a blood test

testosterone levels are less important to some than ball size and load volume but you are right they may not be in direct correlation...

[Choopa Phil]

On that peter north clomid diet? hahaha

[OneHungLo]

Physicians should start taking records of their patient's test levels when they're 18 because who's to say your test is low if it was never measured?