ccbill must collect 25%+ of transactions. on average they take 12% out of the checks I receive

fiddy orons ccbilled

Here is some 3rd party proof of piracy from Google.

Google DMCA Info for Oron.com
URLs Requested to be Removed 4,229

http://www.google.com/transparencyre...ains/oron.com/

congrats on the well deserved great month! What would you charge to share your cumulative form submission % for may?

I have no interest in dollar amounts, or rebills, or price points....my interest is join form submissions %

I'm only an affiliate. :) The record was due to rebills primarily. Sign ups weren't that great but good for the last few months. I started sending more hits and sign ups to sponsors which rebilled better and had some luck to finally get over a ceiling I was always hitting before where I couldn't grow. One of the sponsors I was sending joins to had less than a 10% initial rebill rate on first rebills. Dropping them was what helped a lot.

Maybe they just aren't that interested in joining your site? Possible?

wow...

Let's not change the subject.

Extremely disappointing to see this. Hope CCbill changes course asap.

contact merrick bank

hey CCBILL! what the fuck???

Listen when the banks and pseudo banks need liquidity....they get liquidity

It's as simple as that

to hell with your preconceived notions of business fairness and integrity.

Margin Calls not with standing someone better get some funds in this piece today or their asses is grasses.

But sir what you are suggesting will make people mad if they find out.....to hell with people finding out....you better worry about finding me some liquidity or you can worry about finding the unemployment line

holy shit, will someone shut this crazy bitch up

:2 cents:

:helpme

Duke goes for the juggler.

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Just got in touch with my contact at Visa and emailed Mastercard. :thumbsup

good work. fuck ccbill

anyone with ccbill only programs ought to have their secondary billers on stand by. If/when oron goes down like megaupload CCbill is going to be in a serious situation.

Piracy aside, how is it Oron can have piss sex, blood sex, beast sex, child sex, and incest on their site and still get billing? CCbill or any other biller would shut me down with a quickness if I (or anyone in this thread) had such content, and rightfully so as it violates their terms.

CCbill, you have terms for a reason, apply them.

I dont see how CCBill can consider this fight worth it.

as big as CCBill is to us VISA could drop them and never see any effect on their bottom line, so VISA would drop them in a heartbeat if they got heat to do so.....CCBill should have the common sense to drop oron and let this die. This fight isn't worth it Ron.

I've already moved my primary processing to Epoch for type-in traffic.
This news has now swayed me to also move my affiliate program from CCBill to Epoch! :disgust

you dont have the volume they do :winkwink:

in todays world its all about the benjamins

While I'm not a big fan of what I'm seeing in this thread, you might want to just hold up on deciding what you want to do with the affiliate program, for a variety of reasons.

You are 100% correct, but terms are terms.

Example, "lolita" is forbidden for all sites in CCbill's terms, not just for smaller accounts. So is beast sex, bloody sex, snuff, and so on.

Forget the piracy issue and DMCAs. If they just followed their own terms, oron would be canned. I've already sent someone at CCbill a list of lolita links along with pissing while having sex and some other nasty things they don't allow, so they are now well aware of what is going on there.

Any particular reason?
I posted a thread on here a while back suggesting that I was considering moving onto Epochstats. It's MPA3 powered and Epoch are clearly leading the way for processing now so I don't see what there is not to like by affiliates?
It seems like a win win situation for me.
I was possibly considering keeping the CCBill program too, but unless they pull the plug on this Oron shit I will be pulling the plug on CCBill!

Little off topic but oron got banned from Google?

Definitely not banned on google.co.uk

from what i know, there's 2 stages of approval, 1 done by ccbill and then 1 done for visa. the ccbill approval is not that hard to get through, and if you arent in the know about oron.. getting http://oron.com/ submitted to you. would not raise any flags. anyone would approve it no problem.

I use ccBill, so bump for some answers from them to some very serious allegations, and why is it taking so long for ccBill to get someone in here to address this? Are they too busy counting their revenue from Oron?


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ADG

I obviously can't speak for everyone, but I love promoting BDSM.

I don't promote sites with Epoch though.

Or, to be more accurate, historically, I have not promoted them. If this cluster fuck doesn't resolve, that may change, but I rather doubt it.

From the perspective of someone who has been an affiliate for 8 years, and was an affiliate manager with the same company for almost 6 of those years, you have to see how it will impact your affiliate base. And your potential affiliate base. You don't want to be changing stuff up every day. If you do, you appear to be a flake sponsor, and you won't be trusted, even with what was trusted CCBill backing.

If you don't have tons of affiliates right now, that should be easy. Personally reach out to your top revenue producing affiliates and see what they say.

Well, I figure you'd know as well as anyone, thank you! :)

I have only experienced CCBill as an affiliate. Back in the day, before JaYMan Cash/That One Program was Raven Riley Cash, they used CCBill exclusively. But that was before I went onboard.

It is obviously the VISA approval that I was thinking of. I wasn't aware of it being a two tiered approach.

Though I do think that the post that Robbie copied over from XBiz kind of clarifies that they are aware of what they are processing.

I've been using CCBill for 7 years now and never thought I'd seen something like this from them.

A little off topic. How is anyone suppose to know what Oron is? It's a blank page with an upload feature and a page with payment options.

exactly.. but this isnt the place to make sense.. this is where you can make crazy ass statements

Maybe ccbil is in bed with Manwin after all

Upload + Payment, yep thats all you need to know.

Terms or integrity are all negligible when it comes to money.

Times must be getting tight

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Google even lets them buy adwords.

Strange. It's totally banned for me on Google mobile in the US..

no ccbill response? rofl

I was thinking the same thing :(

Or if not that, perhaps this...


Like they were at iBill ???

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Agreed.

I've always been a good client for CCBill. I've been happy with them. I see the CCBill bashing threads, (and you can look back and see) I've never been a part of that – I really like CCBill.

The notion that we should even have to submit or "cc" our takedown notices to CCBill for "proof" like the community did to get Oron's Paypal account killed is insulting. CCBill has eyes and ears here - they already KNOW what Oron is up to, and know their relationship to the pirate boards, and to the overseas filelocker "affiliate/money laundering" racket. And if someone in their sales department didn't know, they're incompetent and should be replaced.

I don't think any of us should forget this issue, or stop *(sigh)* bumping these related threads until they get their hands out of the piracy cookie jar.

If they don't, then for future business my ears are open to any billing processor that wants to take a stand against piracy.

How is anyone supposed toi know what oron is? seriously?

this is an adult webmaster resource board if you are an adult webmaster and you dont know what oron is you are either a moron or you better not quit your day job...maybe both...

I always wondered how passwords to our sites have always ended up on password share boards so easy hmmm I wonder

CCBILL claims to be hack proof, NOT true or they have just been busted.

If they didn't know, it would take about 2 clicks to find out.

So the average surfer would know what it is? That was my point douchebag.

I just love when pussies like you shit talk on here.

I am gonna run and get a weeks supply of popcorn. This is gonna get entertaining!

:thumbsup QFT

I remember warren, myself & red walked martina warren back to her room because she had too much to drink. Warren was her husband. Anyway, Mrs ccbill saw us walking back & got our info. No big deal. The next day my little fuckin twit andy, my rep, calls me to "make sure nothing happened" as in "you are pretty hardcore dudes therefore you cannot be in anyway shape or form a gentleman." He was pressured into calling me by the late Ron Cadwell & his wife. I found that to be extremly insulting & basically said fuck you. So you would think a company who is this concerned about their image would be concerned about their image. Fuck you Cadwells. All of you.
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is what i see under Mastercard now