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V_RocKs 06-05-2012 09:28 PM

i didn't read any of this

barcodes 06-05-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uniquemkt (Post 18988622)
I saw him pointing out some fair-use cases where someone can use someone else's content, for profit, and be well within the law. I have not seen a situation where he was a proponent for stealing content and profiting from it. I would love to see an example that proves my perception wrong, do you have a link you could share?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=8261...gg+drop+server

His defense here is that since he was super seeding, and the torrent files downloaded weren't 100% his but pieces of his files. If they are going to his site to download a torrent and part of the files are coming form him and he is making money from advertising hes still technically profiting from stolen content isn't he? It is a tv show, so I am assuming no one purchased them. Idk, just my way of understanding it.

I don't have a personal grudge against gg, sometimes I see his posts but honestly I hit a few walls of text and move on to something sillier. I had to mention this though because of what you said. Even if he can slide by using these methods, that post shows that he had a site at one point where he was giving out links to torrents and providing partial files in an a successful attempt to make money off it via advertising right? If you read into what he says, its obvious hes taunting everyone on the fact he cant get sued for the illegal torrent because the download doesn't come 100% from him but he's admitting to being a part of it.

barcodes 06-05-2012 10:02 PM

If enough people download the same torrent, wont the seeder eventually complete a whole download? Just what I got off of this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-seeding#Effects

Again, idk. Just curious

bhutocracy 06-05-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18988606)
He has NEVER... advocated stealing anything.

His WHOLE THING was that pirating someone's content isn't stealing because digital copies were being made not hard copies being removed from a shelf and you had fair use to it because you don't need permission from the copyright holder.
Hiding behind a twisted and self serving definition doesn't stop the fact that most here would consider using their products without paying for it stealing.

Paul Markham 06-05-2012 10:41 PM

uniquemkt
As an employer, I would want to know what my employees are doing on my computers during the time I'm paying them to work for me.

Anyone who is posting from work, is stealing from his employer and deserves the sack.

Informing an employer of this isn't wrong. Letting an employer see the views of an employee is useful for the employer to judge his suitability to the job.

GG's views on what was piracy and what was not went far beyond just creating back ups of bought content. Go read his posts to get the full picture.

Until then just be happy that someone who was stealing from his employer, by posting on boards during time he should of been working. Got fired.

Tat2Jr 06-05-2012 11:00 PM

Stop looking for proof or examples. It's very simple.

A) He repeatedly poked the bear.
B) The bear finally bit him.

and finally,

C) The bear will stop attacking when it god damned feels like it.

DWB 06-06-2012 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18988291)
I've always noticed that Gideon doesn't have one single clue about what Fair USe actually is, nor has he ever made the effort to look it up -- but does anyone have the right to fuck with his private life?

Advocating piracy which hurts intellectual property owners is fucking with their private life.


Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 18988299)
I'm absolutely salivating because I don't know the juicy details, what sort of place did he work and how come he got fired??

He worked for a company that made software.


Quote:

Originally Posted by uniquemkt (Post 18988362)
Payback is a bitch, but escalation is uncalled for. Nothing personal towards GG or against anyone else, but you don't fuck with people's ability to feed their families, unless they're fucking with yours. From what I've seen, this was an offensive move and not a defensive one. Nobody likes him so its "ok", like kicking a black kid in Alabama.

Payback is always a bitch. Problem is, you don't know how big the hand is going to be that smacks the shit out of you when that payback comes. Sometimes it is a lot larger than you expected.


Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18988507)
Let's ask the government if they see a difference between being pro-terrorism, and being a terrorist. Either way, you're going to find yourself in jail.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18988606)

What a bunch of fucking scumbags in this business.

Wait, you mean the porn industry has scum bags in it?

Pirates = Good People

Good People who go after pirates = Scum Bags

:1orglaugh



Quote:

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 18988771)
Stop looking for proof or examples. It's very simple.

A) He repeatedly poked the bear.
B) The bear finally bit him.

and finally,

C) The bear will stop attacking when it god damned feels like it.

:2 cents: :thumbsup

Best post in the thread.

EddyTheDog 06-06-2012 01:01 AM

I am not comfortable with people taking their online shit into the real world like this.

It sets a president and now do we all have to worry every-time we post something that someone else does not agree with?

You could argue that he crossed a line, the problem is we will all have our own opinion of where that line should be.

We have judges and a whole legal system to tell us where the line is in the 'real world'.

Is the person that dished out this punishment to GG the correct person to make decisions on when it is time to punish someone?

Remember we are not talking about being banned or told off by a mod but real world actions that have real world consequences.

redhead 06-06-2012 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18988830)
I am not comfortable with people taking their online shit into the real world like this.

It sets a president and now do we all have to worry every-time we post something that someone else does not agree with?

You could argue that he crossed a line, the problem is we will all have our own opinion of where that line should be.

We have judges and a whole legal system to tell us where the line is in the 'real world'.

Is the person that dished out this punishment to GG the correct person to make decisions on when it is time to punish someone?

Remember we are not talking about being banned or told off by a mod but real world actions that have real world consequences.

Precedent

EddyTheDog 06-06-2012 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhead (Post 18988848)
Precedent

It was the spell checks fault - honestly :)....

DWB 06-06-2012 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18988830)
I am not comfortable with people taking their online shit into the real world like this.

It sets a president and now do we all have to worry every-time we post something that someone else does not agree with?

You could argue that he crossed a line, the problem is we will all have our own opinion of where that line should be.

We have judges and a whole legal system to tell us where the line is in the 'real world'.

Is the person that dished out this punishment to GG the correct person to make decisions on when it is time to punish someone?

Remember we are not talking about being banned or told off by a mod but real world actions that have real world consequences.

You speak as if all of our jobs are make believe and have no real world existence. Shit stains like GG contribute to REAL LIFE losses for intellectual property owners. That is the real world, and it is fitting to see him dealt with in the same manner.

It is not just his comments, it is everything he stands for and believes in that insults and harms our industry (and others). As another poster said above, there is no difference between being a terrorist and supporting terrorism. In the eyes of the law, you are the same. The same applies to piracy.

I'm sure GG's boss isn't very happy knowing his employee supports the theft of his product and very well may be pirating their products, which there is a good chance he is.

You reap what you sow.

DWB 06-06-2012 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18988830)
You could argue that he crossed a line, the problem is we will all have our own opinion of where that line should be.

There is no opinion of where the "line" is when it comes to theft. It's either stolen or it's not. You either know it's stolen or you don't. Anyone trying to cloud that simple truth is either a pirate or a freeloader who believes he doesn't have to pay for things that others created.

redhead 06-06-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18988849)
It was the spell checks fault - honestly :)....

:1orglaugh Hairy muff

TheSwed 06-06-2012 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18988859)
There is no opinion of where the "line" is when it comes to theft. It's either stolen or it's not. You either know it's stolen or you don't. Anyone trying to cloud that simple truth is either a pirate or a freeloader who believes he doesn't have to pay for things that others created.

and what about people that makes a living on illegal produced content,
can they claim ownership of that content?

Major (Tom) 06-06-2012 02:10 AM

mr trololo is smiling
ds

EddyTheDog 06-06-2012 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18988852)
You speak as if all of our jobs are make believe and have no real world existence. Shit stains like GG contribute to REAL LIFE losses for intellectual property owners. That is the real world, and it is fitting to see him dealt with in the same manner.

We are talking about what has been said on GFY - If this is the real world then god help us all.

I like GFY, thats obvious, but it is sometimes a place to escape reality.

Quote:

There is no opinion of where the "line" is when it comes to theft. It's either stolen or it's not. You either know it's stolen or you don't. Anyone trying to cloud that simple truth is either a pirate or a freeloader who believes he doesn't have to pay for things that others created.
There is a very thick line when it comes to Copyright. Thats the problem.

Don't get me wrong GG's views are VERY wrong in my opinion.

I just don't like the idea of someone from here acting as Judge, Jury and Executioner.

redhead 06-06-2012 02:36 AM

I think the whole industry would benefit from a review of the copyright laws. Every lawyer i talk to about this thinks that they are redundant, confusing and unfit for purpose. :2 cents:

NewNick 06-06-2012 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 18988771)
Stop looking for proof or examples. It's very simple.

A) He repeatedly poked the bear.
B) The bear finally bit him.

and finally,

C) The bear will stop attacking when it god damned feels like it.



QFT.


But there is another important point here. Peeps on forums create their own keyboard warrior personas. They say things to each other which they would never do in person. You would not get through the day without getting punched if you spoke your mind as if on a forum where no one knows where you work and live.

So I think we should all realise that forums are no different to the real world, if you piss people off they might decide that you need to be re-alligned with reality.

I personally would not go as far as what has been done to Mr Gallbladder but neither would I say it was wrong or that he did not deserve it. GG reaped what he sowed.

GG thought that a board persona gave him the right to say whatever he wanted to a group of people with real lives and businesses. But just like the good folks at Westboro you take this line and you find that those you attack are entitled to free speech aswell.

There are one or two others that post similar stuff to GG. "Its not theft" is a particularly difficult line to swallow when it is your stuff being stolen. "There is nothing you can do about piracy" is another argument that might get you into trouble. I am not advocating any kind of backlash against those that hold this view, but really a forum is just like real life, you temper what you say to people or be prepared for the consequencies.

:2 cents:

NewNick 06-06-2012 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed (Post 18988883)
and what about people that makes a living on illegal produced content,
can they claim ownership of that content?


No. Dont be silly.

They are theives.

DWB 06-06-2012 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSwed (Post 18988883)
and what about people that makes a living on illegal produced content,
can they claim ownership of that content?

What someone creates or where they create it is irrelevant. The fact is, they created it and they own it. This is 100% about who owns and controls created works. Nothing more.

Saying something was produced illegally does not mean they can not own it. In most states in the USA it is illegal to make porn. It is also illegal to make porn in many countries. Being created under a law that *may* rule that creation illegal is not a reason to take away ownership from the person who created it. That just means you happen to be in a place where a law was in place at the time of creation, and that law could change at any time, in any direction. But you still own what you created. That's how it works.


Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18988887)
We are talking about what has been said on GFY - If this is the real world then god help us all.

Don't get me wrong GG's views are VERY wrong in my opinion.

I just don't like the idea of someone from here acting as Judge, Jury and Executioner.

GG made his point years ago and has been beating a dead horse every since just to spite everyone here and try to rub their faces in it. Now he's getting his face rubbed in it.

What is said here in passing and what is said here by someone who is part of group that is harming the lives of everywhere here are different things. GG knows what he is doing and this is the price he will have to pay for poking the bear. That's just the way it works sometimes. If you don't like it, don't poke the bear. GG prided himself on getting away with kicking the bear for several years, but in the end it doesn't look like it worked out the way he planned. That's life.

If someone wants to play keyboard tough guy or troll and it backfires eventually, he has no one to blame but himself. I feel no pity for GG or anyone like him who eventually gets their ass handed to him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 18988929)

But there is another important point here. Peeps on forums create their own keyboard warrior personas. They say things to each other which they would never do in person. You would not get through the day without getting punched if you spoke your mind as if on a forum where no one knows where you work and live.

So I think we should all realise that forums are no different to the real world, if you piss people off they might decide that you need to be re-alligned with reality.

I personally would not go as far as what has been done to Mr Gallbladder but neither would I say it was wrong or that he did not deserve it. GG reaped what he sowed.

GG thought that a board persona gave him the right to say whatever he wanted to a group of people with real lives and businesses. But just like the good folks at Westboro you take this line and you find that those you attack are entitled to free speech aswell.

There are one or two others that post similar stuff to GG. "Its not theft" is a particularly difficult line to swallow when it is your stuff being stolen. "There is nothing you can do about piracy" is another argument that might get you into trouble. I am not advocating any kind of backlash against those that hold this view, but really a forum is just like real life, you temper what you say to people or be prepared for the consequencies.

:2 cents:

Good post.

If someone wants to support piracy, they are free to do so, but go do it somewhere else.

Major (Tom) 06-06-2012 04:54 AM

so who did all the sluething on gallbladder? It's impressive
ds

Barefootsies 06-06-2012 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18989006)
If someone wants to play keyboard tough guy or troll and it backfires eventually, he has no one to blame but himself. I feel no pity for GG or anyone like him who eventually gets their ass handed to him.

:2 cents:

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-06-2012 05:06 AM

100+ Attacks - And Gideon Gallbladder Still Wants to Know:

What Do They Want To Make Them Stop?!? :waaaaahh

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__-3V0tRrxW...600/DrEvil.jpg

Or a few answers will do...

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Interesting, because a site owned by the same Aaron Jacques (whom owned and registered jacquesweb.com) was ordered forfeited by an Arbitration Panel in 2007, since Mr Jacques was using the Barbie children's toy trademark to redirect people to porn sites:

Complete text here: http://www.adrforum.com/domains/decisions/1024381.htm

To summarize, Gideon...er, Mr Jacques' defense (the owner of jacquesweb.com) was that "(Mattel?s) United States trademark registrations are irrelevant because Respondent is a Canadian resident. Respondent further argues that the BARBIE mark is generic."

Typical Gallbladder style to believe he can arbitrarily pick and choose to suit his greedy needs about which laws to follow, and the attitude that he can decide that other people's trademarks and intellectual property are generic and use them to profit from however he wishes.

The arbitration panel ruled against Aaron Jacques and stripped him of his domain since they felt that he acted in bad faith and abused the popular children's toy brand trademark to drive traffic to porn sites.

Great corporate citizen.

I can see why companies like Akira Systems would want to be disassociated with such a lowlife, if it turns out to indeed be the same person.

Gideon still hasn't quite given us a straight answer about that either...well, at least he is finally getting the attention from the industry that he has so desperately craved for years.

...

If I were a GFY Mod, and GG = Aaron Jacques, I would pin this to Mr. Fair Use's (GideonGallery's) sig:

The (National Arbitration Forum) Panel finds that Respondent?s (Aaron Jacque's) use of Complainant?s BARBIE mark to divert Internet users to an adult-oriented website does not constitute a bona fide offering of goods or services under Policy ¶ 4(c)(i), nor a legitimate noncommercial or FAIR USE under Policy ¶ 4(c)(iii).


Yup, Gideon sure is a real expert on Fair Use. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:smilie_we

ADG

Phoenix 06-06-2012 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18988669)
i didn't read any of this

you win then

DWB 06-06-2012 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18989069)
100+ Attacks - And Gideon Gallbladder Still Wants to Know:

What Do They Want To Make Them Stop?!? :waaaaahh

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__-3V0tRrxW...600/DrEvil.jpg

Or a few answers will do...



:smilie_we

ADG

Nice find. I just started a new thread about that one.

Paul Markham 06-06-2012 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18989006)
GG made his point years ago and has been beating a dead horse every since just to spite everyone here and try to rub their faces in it. Now he's getting his face rubbed in it.

If someone wants to play keyboard tough guy or troll and it backfires eventually, he has no one to blame but himself. I feel no pity for GG or anyone like him who eventually gets their ass handed to him.

If someone wants to support piracy, they are free to do so, but go do it somewhere else.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

The Ghost 06-06-2012 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uniquemkt (Post 18988362)
Payback is a bitch, but escalation is uncalled for. Nothing personal towards GG or against anyone else, but you don't fuck with people's ability to feed their families, unless they're fucking with yours. From what I've seen, this was an offensive move and not a defensive one. Nobody likes him so its "ok", like kicking a black kid in Alabama.


Possibly the most ironic statement ever on GFY.

Major (Tom) 06-06-2012 08:31 AM

just another tro lo lo lo lo ool getting outed
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DWB 06-06-2012 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 18989477)
Possibly the most ironic statement ever on GFY.

:2 cents: QFT

bigluv 06-06-2012 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18988748)
uniquemkt
As an employer, I would want to know what my employees are doing on my computers during the time I'm paying them to work for me.

Anyone who is posting from work, is stealing from his employer and deserves the sack.

Informing an employer of this isn't wrong. Letting an employer see the views of an employee is useful for the employer to judge his suitability to the job.

GG's views on what was piracy and what was not went far beyond just creating back ups of bought content. Go read his posts to get the full picture.

Until then just be happy that someone who was stealing from his employer, by posting on boards during time he should of been working. Got fired.

I actually sort of agree with this. But if GG went on a rampage informing people's employers of how much pointless drivel they post here, how many less nicks would we have ?

Major (Tom) 06-06-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 18989821)
I actually sort of agree with this. But if GG went on a rampage informing people's employers of how much pointless drivel they post here, how many less nicks would we have ?

in there lies the problem. There should be just a board where no dickem fools have day jobs.
ds

CyberHustler 06-06-2012 10:49 AM

:1orglaugh

Robbie 06-06-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 18989880)
in there lies the problem. There should be just a board where no dickem fools have day jobs.
ds

There you go. A section of GFY with ONLY people who can prove they are in this industry. That way all the surfers could still come to GFY and play-pretend to be millionaires on the Fucking Around Section.

And we would all still come here too to fuck around.

But just ONE section that is only for real people in adult...sort of like the AVN CEO dinner guest list. Some place where we could discuss important things that may come up WITHOUT having gideongallery or DamianJ, or any of the other multitudes of people who ONLY come here to troll.
It gets tiresome when you really have something you want to do business wise to have those clowns come in and completely sidetrack the thread.

I would say that ONE section would be one that the person would have to identify themselves and their business to the moderators and be put on a list of people who are vetted and proven to actually be in the industry.
No beginners or fringe players in that section.

Dirty D 06-06-2012 10:57 AM

Hey Gideon,

Eat a bowl of dicks.

Hope you end up homeless.

The Porn Nerd 06-06-2012 12:15 PM

Well well, 3 pages (so far)...guess the attacks ain't stoppin', eh GG?

Or is it now uniquemkt? Hilarious that you think you can just "carry on" blathering with the new nick and we won't know it's you.

Now, let's just pray GG/uniquemkt doesn't go and start pirating content. That would be bad, mmm'kay?

JFK 06-06-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 18989880)
in there lies the problem. There should be just a board where no dickem fools have day jobs.
ds

probably wont work :2 cents:

DWB 06-06-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 18989910)
Hey Gideon,

Eat a bowl of dicks.

Hope you end up homeless.

So eloquently put, but I concur. :1orglaugh

seeric 06-07-2012 07:45 AM

good morning gfy.

pimpmaster9000 06-07-2012 08:45 AM

gideon....:1orglaugh


you got what you asked for LOL...time to "job shift" your ass :1orglaugh... you literally begged for it LOL...

my advice:

file a DMCA against everybody in this form and we will each charge you 50$ to process :1orglaugh

more advice:

work for free :1orglaugh you do not need a job...if you cant compete with free you cant compete period remember? so who needs a job

even more advice:

make billions with your method...just blog like whil weaton did and talk about random shit...:1orglaugh

eZe 06-07-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18988385)
Oh please, let me introduce.

Babaganoosh, meet Gideon oh I mean uniquemkt.

Got to disagree on this one Gideon is not uniquemkt. Just look at the use of language. uniquemkt is much more articulate.


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