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brassmonkey 06-05-2012 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18987041)
Sorry, but that is EXACTLY what they are trying to do. If I, as a private business owner, cannot sell people my product in the sizes that I choose to, then that is the government telling you what you can and cannot eat or drink. I don't understand how you can't see that? Since when is it the governments business to "approve" the size of a drink container??? It's between the business and the customer.

As to your other examples of how the government taking away freedoms one by one, and people becoming used to it, so that it's "no big deal", I agree. This is how freedom disappears... a little bit at a time, until it doesn't exist at all anymore.

It's the same way you boil a live frog. If you drop it in hot water, it will jump out, so you put it in cold water, and slowly heat it up until the frog boils. Smart governments work the same way. Each little step will be "no big deal", a "yawn", and after a few decades they control everything.



People who think like you do are exactly the kind of people that governments love....




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preach it!

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PR_Glen 06-05-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18986351)
Now that people are working out how to reverse Diabetes Type 2 naturally, they want you to have Aspartame instead of sugar; as Chemo is more profitable.

are you really this deep into this delusion that you think the mayor of new york is trying to poison it's people?

how are you not locked up? shut in?

Tom_PM 06-05-2012 08:05 AM

Nah, you're all blowing it up beyond the scope when you claim it's telling you what you can and cant do. You can bring a 5 gallon bucket and pour 50 drinks into it then chug it right down.

A business owner is going to make more money by having it limited to 16 ounces. More ice, less product and so forth.

By the way, you also can't buy landmines. You can't even make it yourself (like you can make soda), and you can't even bury them in your own yard. How far do you want to go with it? There are arguments to be made on both sides, which is why a simple poll was 53% to 42%, 5% invisible and a margin of error of probably 3 or 4%. That's pretty close.

If he was banning non-diet sodas and drinks, then I'd agree that it's telling you what you cant drink. But as it is, he's telling food establishments who serve drinks in cups what size is the largest, which is not exactly a terrible thing.

Sorry, but I've never liked the idea of behemoth gulp sized sodas so I'd have voted yes on this before a lot of people were even born. No big deal. My brain is unwashed.

Tat2Jr 06-05-2012 08:05 AM

Everybody that's ok with this are going to be singing a different tune when they realize how tiny a 16 ounce drink is! I remember 'em from the 70's and the size is pitiful (plus there was no refills back then).

DudeRick 06-05-2012 08:13 AM

Like Obama care?!?

BIGTYMER 06-05-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18986831)
i don't agree with this but think its pretty stupid of people that they can't stop killling themselves with "food".

It's a step and it'll help. Research has shown people eat more when given a bigger plate and vice versa.

brassmonkey 06-05-2012 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18987190)
It's a step and it'll help. Research has shown people eat more when given a bigger plate and vice versa.

it's not the governments job. people over extend credit. you want them to budget your bank account?? :helpme

Tom_PM 06-05-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18987190)
It's a step and it'll help. Research has shown people eat more when given a bigger plate and vice versa.

Lots of research on that stuff through at least 50 years or more. When someone on another board asked for dieting advice, I said right off to remove your largest dinner plates from your cabinet. They hold too much food! Common sense. You can always get seconds, or thirds or fourths. Just like with soda.


I make kool aid sometimes, usually I make a 2 calorie mix but sometimes the old cup of sugar, packet of drink, 2 quarts of water stuff. No big deal. It lasts me about a week though compared to 1 sitting.. this is not hard stuff and it's the sort of thing many of us wouldnt even notice since we'd ask for water anyway.

TheSwed 06-05-2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18987041)
Sorry, but that is EXACTLY what they are trying to do. If I, as a private business owner, cannot sell people my product in the sizes that I choose to, then that is the government telling you what you can and cannot eat or drink. I don't understand how you can't see that? Since when is it the governments business to "approve" the size of a drink container??? It's between the business and the customer.

As to your other examples of how the government taking away freedoms one by one, and people becoming used to it, so that it's "no big deal", I agree. This is how freedom disappears... a little bit at a time, until it doesn't exist at all anymore.

It's the same way you boil a live frog. If you drop it in hot water, it will jump out, so you put it in cold water, and slowly heat it up until the frog boils. Smart governments work the same way. Each little step will be "no big deal", a "yawn", and after a few decades they control everything.


People who think like you do are exactly the kind of people that governments love....




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nice to see that not everybody in here are braindead sheeps
:thumbsup

TheSwed 06-05-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18987190)
It's a step and it'll help. Research has shown people eat more when given a bigger plate and vice versa.

ban sale of big plates will resolve that problem
:1orglaugh

sperbonzo 06-05-2012 08:35 AM

Government enforced exercise is also a good idea. It's for peoples own good!



Also, the government should control what we spend our money on. People waste their money on partying, when they should be saving for retirement. We would have a lot less problems if the government simply controlled what we can and can't buy so that we don't fritter our money away foolishly!


Don't you think those are great ideas Tom? Think of how much healthier people will be, and how they will be better off by not being able to waste their money!! I'm sure you would vote for this stuff also, right?



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Tom_PM 06-05-2012 08:50 AM

I think if NY city's elected mayor wants to attempt to ban larger cup sizes in food establishments, and the council approves it, that it's ok. The rest? I wouldn't know until it happens.

I asked before about landmines and nobody seems to mind that you can't buy them or make them or bury them in your yard, lol. It seems people accept there should be some regulation, it's a matter of where to draw the line. This particular battle over cup sizes doesn't cross mine. I have said though that NYC is asking for lawsuits by exempting "diet" labeled sodas.

_Richard_ 06-05-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18987251)
I think if NY city's elected mayor wants to attempt to ban larger cup sizes in food establishments, and the council approves it, that it's ok. The rest? I wouldn't know until it happens.

I asked before about landmines and nobody seems to mind that you can't buy them or make them or bury them in your yard, lol. It seems people accept there should be some regulation, it's a matter of where to draw the line. This particular battle over cup sizes doesn't cross mine. I have said though that NYC is asking for lawsuits by exempting "diet" labeled sodas.

shouldn't that line be the choices that people make?

the right to wed seems to be regulated down there, baffling enough


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