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  • sid
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 105
    #1

    Host ignoring DMCAs - whats the next step...

    If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?
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    • cosis
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2001
      • 5292
      #2
      Sue them

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        • AAB
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2009
          • 874
          #3
          Sometimes when site is run by Russians (or any of former Soviet states) and hosted in a similar country, you won't even hear back from anyone let alone have the site taken down. I found the next best thing to do was to notify Google to at least have their pages removed from the rank. Though one big time thief who steals my content a lot had at least a 100 pages unlisted from Google yet they still rank them high for everything. Hundreds of take down notices and it did not hurt their overall ranking one bit.
          Last edited by AAB; 06-03-2012, 07:10 PM.

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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089
              #4
              Registrar?

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                • Konda
                  ...
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 2280
                  #5
                  If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

                  Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

                  If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.

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                    • Major (Tom)
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 32492
                      #6
                      Originally posted by sid
                      If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?
                      try sending it in russian.
                      send to upstream. then get an attornery
                      ds

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                        • AllAboutCams
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                          • Jul 2011
                          • 12234
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Konda
                          If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

                          Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

                          If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.
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                            • CyberHustler
                              Masterbaiter
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 28750
                              #8
                              Originally posted by sid
                              If a host is ignoring DMCA notifications what is the next step to take down a site ?
                              Hire a hitman
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                                • Due
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 3620
                                  #9
                                  Report it to the major backbone providers. They can black-hole the IPs

                                  Even if it's not their initial responsibility they have to review it each time, and that cost them money. If you annoy them enough they will take some actions
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                                    • DWB
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 31779
                                      #10
                                      If it's a USA host, get a lawyer and sue the piss out of them.

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                                        • Spunky
                                          I need a beer
                                          • Jun 2002
                                          • 133986
                                          #11
                                          Send Bubba over to talk to them

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                                            • BNMedia
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2009
                                              • 433
                                              #12
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                                                • pornguy
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                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 62912
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                  Registrar?
                                                  Now thats funny.


                                                  Try the upstream provider for the host.
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                                                    • u-Bob
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                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                      • 33063
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                      send to upstream.
                                                      that .

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                                                        • chaze
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 9774
                                                          #15
                                                          What host? Most will if you can prove the content is yours and is not allowed to be shared.
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                                                            • Brad Mitchell
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                              • 9813
                                                              #16
                                                              What is the site or web host?

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                                                                • Django
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Jul 2010
                                                                  • 2578
                                                                  #17
                                                                  ask google to remove the indexed page
                                                                  https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/removals

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                                                                    • ravo
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 5461
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Konda
                                                                      If the host is not in the USA they have nothing to do with DMCA. You have to go trough the appropriate channels in that specific country.

                                                                      Like for example Leaseweb in The Netherlands ignores DMCA requests, because they don't have anything to do with US law. They are in The Netherlands so they have to comply to the law there and ask you to submit the removal request according to NL laws/standards instead.

                                                                      If the host is in the US they have to comply to US law, if they are not in the US they have to comply to the laws in their own country.
                                                                      +1 Perfect Response. Remember that DMCA only applies in the US. If the host is outside the US, use the corresponding rules for takedowns in that country.
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                                                                        • Barefootsies
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                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                          • 42635
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by ravo
                                                                          +1 Perfect Response. Remember that DMCA only applies in the US. If the host is outside the US, use the corresponding rules for takedowns in that country.
                                                                          Correct.

                                                                          I recall there is a law that either the EU, or some of the countries in the EU follow that is similar to DMCA over there. The name escapes me at the moment. But if you have a lawyer involved, I am sure they can find it easily enough. Good luck chief.
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                                                                            • sid
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 105
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Host is http://www.altushost.com/

                                                                              hetzner.de which is the upstream provider just saying
                                                                              they do not host the site so they are not responsible

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                                                                                • chaze
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 9774
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by sid
                                                                                  Host is http://www.altushost.com/

                                                                                  hetzner.de which is the upstream provider just saying
                                                                                  they do not host the site so they are not responsible
                                                                                  Yep, they have almost no copyright laws there. Sorry
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                                                                                    • sid
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                      • 105
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Thanks for all the info.....I will see what I can work out.....

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                                                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32492
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          anyone have a form for takedown directions for leaseweb?
                                                                                          ds

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                                                                                            • Deej
                                                                                              I make pixels work
                                                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                                                              • 24386
                                                                                              #24
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                                                                                                • sid
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                  • 105
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Django
                                                                                                  ask google to remove the indexed page
                                                                                                  https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/removals
                                                                                                  Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?

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                                                                                                    • xp-ViT
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                                                                                                      • Aug 2008
                                                                                                      • 559
                                                                                                      #26
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                                                                                                        • Brad Mitchell
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                          • 9813
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          As far as my research digs up it is a shit bag host. What is the web site with the infringing content?

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                                                                                                            • TheSwed
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                              • 3483
                                                                                                              #28
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                                                                                                                • Django
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Jul 2010
                                                                                                                  • 2578
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sid
                                                                                                                  Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?
                                                                                                                  No, I don't
                                                                                                                  here a couple of tools
                                                                                                                  http://support.google.com/bin/static...905&page=ts.cs
                                                                                                                  http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/
                                                                                                                  Last edited by Django; 06-07-2012, 07:05 AM.

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                                                                                                                    • TheSwed
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                      • 3483
                                                                                                                      #30
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                                                                                                                        • cgiGeek
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                          • 203
                                                                                                                          #31
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                                                                                                                            • ajrocks
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                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                              • 4526
                                                                                                                              #32
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                                                                                                                                • kristin
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                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 9768
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sid
                                                                                                                                  Do you know if google will only remove the URLs with the content or a complete site ?
                                                                                                                                  Just the URLs with content. Google Lady Gaga Download and then scroll to the bottom and you'll see what happens with the Google takedowns.
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