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Old 02-11-2003, 11:48 PM   #1
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Bin Laden Tape is Good

You know this guy is supposedly so smart, threating more suicide bombings and saying that they are "afraid of casualties"

all it did is sway the people who were on the fence, to the side of war

so I say, great, he's given us all the more reason to go there wipe out saddam, then stay there in iraq for 50 years as a stabilizing force

(personally I think that he is dead, and someone else is making the tapes. It's no secret that bin laden hated saddam and iraqi people)

Just the same, if it was in doubt, now it isn't
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Old 02-12-2003, 12:27 AM   #2
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Bullshit... He's dead!
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Old 02-12-2003, 01:19 AM   #3
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You know this guy is supposedly so smart, threating more suicide bombings and saying that they are "afraid of casualties"

all it did is sway the people who were on the fence, to the side of war

so I say, great, he's given us all the more reason to go there wipe out saddam, then stay there in iraq for 50 years as a stabilizing force

(personally I think that he is dead, and someone else is making the tapes. It's no secret that bin laden hated saddam and iraqi people)

Just the same, if it was in doubt, now it isn't
You're right, he is dead. I bet its Jammy or Wonton makin those tapes
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Old 02-12-2003, 01:21 AM   #4
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You're right, he is dead. I bet its Jammy or Wonton makin those tapes

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Old 02-12-2003, 02:36 AM   #5
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He's not fuckin dead man. He probably wasn't even in Afghanastan to begin with. By the time we got over there to bomb the shit out of those fuckers, his crew had him slipped across the border to Pakistan or even Iraq.

If he is dead, all the better. But I'm not happy till I see the prick's head on a fuckin platter with Saddam's penis stuffed in his mouth.

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Old 02-12-2003, 02:38 AM   #6
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and just FYI bin laden...we do have bombs to penetrate bunkers
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Old 02-12-2003, 02:54 AM   #7
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I think he's in the safest place he could possibly be, the one place we just wouldn't even consider checking...




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"I think he's in the safest place he could possibly be, the one place we just wouldn't even consider checking..."

... wtf, you think he is hiding under 12clicks desk ??
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Old 02-12-2003, 03:04 AM   #9
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Bin Laden will never be caught.

That's how he will humiliate the USA a second time.
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Old 02-12-2003, 03:07 AM   #10
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Bin Laden will never be caught.

That's how he will humiliate the USA a second time.
hiding like a little bitch because none of your boys will publically back you up in any muslim country is humiliating to whom?

we know who supports him, we know where he is.....

we are letting him run around...taking us to everyone he knows
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Old 02-12-2003, 03:28 AM   #11
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Bin Laden will never be caught.

That's how he will humiliate the USA a second time.
Running away from a fight doesn't humiliate anyone. It just proves you're a sissy with no backbone. It humiliates yourself if anything.

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Running away from a fight doesn't humiliate anyone. It just proves you're a sissy with no backbone. It humiliates yourself if anything.

There's no such thing as a fair fight. What he's doing is the smart, strategic move. Self-preservation is his priority as it should be. Bin Laden's not stupid. He realizes one man can't defeat a whole country on his own.

He's like the kid who king hit the big schoolyard bully when he wasn't looking and then ran for his life!

It's funny, with all the billions of dollars the CIA must spend on intelligence, you'd think they'd be able to find one man.

Guess not.
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Old 02-12-2003, 03:46 AM   #13
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hey im an american i want his bin laden ala carte however if you really want to disrupt his network save energy.

hey im no hippie but fuck that guy. everytime you fill up your H2 or whatever fucking thing you drive you pay his ass (or someone who funds him) + that shit does neither you or the environment any good.

k - rant over but im just sick of all this "lets kick ass" mentality when WE could do some easy shit to help out.
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There's no such thing as a fair fight. What he's doing is the smart, strategic move. Self-preservation is his priority as it should be. Bin Laden's not stupid. He realizes one man can't defeat a whole country on his own.

He's like the kid who king hit the big schoolyard bully when he wasn't looking and then ran for his life!

It's funny, with all the billions of dollars the CIA must spend on intelligence, you'd think they'd be able to find one man.

Guess not.
"Intelligence" is only as good as the information you're given. Therefor, it's easily defeated. The mafia did it to the FBI for decades. The problem here is that Bin Laden's organization is so tightly bound to secrecy, that no one is willing to "rat" him out. Probably only a hadful of them really know his whereabouts anyway, and several of those guys are dead now. Dead men tell no tales.

But it's still just a matter of time. Eventually he will be captured or killed. Even Hitler could have been captured had he not killed himself first.

Running may be the "smart" thing for him to do as you suggested, but it's still cowardly. This is a man who encourages his followers to DIE in the name of Allah (spelling?). He preaches that there is bravery in suicide and dying in battle.

So where's his bravery? Where's his commitment to Allah? Hiding in some bunker underground or in some cave I suppose.



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hey im an american i want his bin laden ala carte however if you really want to disrupt his network save energy.

hey im no hippie but fuck that guy. everytime you fill up your H2 or whatever fucking thing you drive you pay his ass (or someone who funds him) + that shit does neither you or the environment any good.

k - rant over but im just sick of all this "lets kick ass" mentality when WE could do some easy shit to help out.
Look, that's all fine and good. But I still have to get from place A to place B every day. And my car requires gas. So I'm gonna buy gas.

Besides, Bin Laden's organization and the Taliban make most of their money from the distribution and manufacturing of heroin, not oil.

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Old 02-12-2003, 03:59 AM   #16
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Running away from a fight doesn't humiliate anyone. It just proves you're a sissy with no backbone. It humiliates yourself if anything.


What are you talking about? You think Osama is running away? Hahhaha... he ducks and then throws a hook. Why do think terrorism keeps popping around every month or so?
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Running may be the "smart" thing for him to do as you suggested, but it's still cowardly. This is a man who encourages his followers to DIE in the name of Allah (spelling?). He preaches that there is bravery in suicide and dying in battle.
A strategic retreat is not cowardly but smart.

It's stupid in a war to sacrifice your leaders, your generals. You sacrifice your cannon fodder, the brainwashed gung-ho frontline troops like Mohammad Atta and the other hijackers. Bin Laden is the brains of the operation.
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What are you talking about? You think Osama is running away? Hahhaha... he ducks and then throws a hook. Why do think terrorism keeps popping around every month or so?
Bin Laden has very little to do with Hamas, or the Palistinian terror factions of the West Bank.

Get your facts straight.
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A strategic retreat is not cowardly but smart.

It's stupid in a war to sacrifice your leaders, your generals. You sacrifice your cannon fodder, the brainwashed gung-ho frontline troops like Mohammad Atta and the other hijackers. Bin Laden is the brains of the operation.
Not so. Bin Laden is a figurehead. Atta and the rest planned the hijackings without input from Bin Laden directly. In fact, he almost never participates in the blueprinting of any operation. Unlike a General in the military.

All the terror cells of his operation function independant of each other up until just before the event is to take place.

That much is well documented.
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Not so. Bin Laden is a figurehead. Atta and the rest planned the hijackings without input from Bin Laden directly. In fact, he almost never participates in the blueprinting of any operation. Unlike a General in the military.

All the terror cells of his operation function independant of each other up until just before the event is to take place.

That much is well documented.
Okay, so even if you're right and he's more like their Winston Churchill than a general; what's the difference? You don't sacrifice your figureheads either. They're just as important to the cause.

You still haven't found him and you won't. As I said before, this is his way of humiliating the USA once again. These mocking videos, if they're authentic, are another humiliation.

"You can't catch me...."
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Okay, so even if you're right and he's more like their Winston Churchill than a general; what's the difference? You don't sacrifice your figureheads either. They're just as important to the cause.

You still haven't found him and you won't. As I said before, this is his way of humiliating the USA once again. These mocking videos, if they're authentic, are another humiliation.

"You can't catch me...."
Well, the argument to your first paragraph is really very simple. If he was a brave leader, and true to his beliefs (which is the whole basis for his purpose), then sacrificing himself for those beliefs would be not only honorable in the eyes of his followers, but would make him a martyr. Al Queda does not NEED him to continue on with their operations. It's far beyond that now. Even HE must know this.

And the taunting he does with the distribution of these tapes (legit or not), is really just like throwing snowballs at your father. Sure, it's fun that you got the better of him for the moment, but it's really not going to save you from getting your ass whipped when you get home.

EDIT: Point and case: Jesus Christ. This guy's martyrdom spawned one of the most influencial religious uprisings in the history of the world.
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Old 02-12-2003, 05:15 AM   #22
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Osama says do it... they do it

watch out

and whats up with france? didnt we save their country from the nazi bastards, and now they won't side with us? we should have let their country go

one of the 9/11 terrorists, while he was here, went to a small airport asking about how much chemicals crop dusters can hold, and how far they can fly. he even tried getting a loan to buy one.
I hope they don't try this again, that would be terrible.

all of them fools over there look up to osama as a great leader, he doesn't have to personally plan something, he just says do something, and they'll do something.

fool is over there with his caterpillar bulldozers digging more holes in caves

fuck with iraq, fuck with osama
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"Mentioning the name of Clinton or that of the American government provokes disgust and revulsion. This is because the name of the American government and the name of Clinton and Bush directly reflect in our minds . . . the picture of the children who died in Iraq"

He continued: "The hearts of Muslims are filled with hatred towards the United States Of America and the American president. The president has a heart that knows no words. A heart that kills hundreds of children definitely knows no words. Our people in the Arabian Peninsula will send him a message with no words because he does not know any words."
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Old 02-12-2003, 05:52 AM   #24
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Al Queda does not NEED him to continue on with their operations. It's far beyond that now. Even HE must know this
You seem to forget who is financing all their campaigns. All their
arms, training, bombs are payed with Osama´s money and not
only those of terrorist.....he finances arms for whole countries.

This may sound odd but the US needs somebody like Osama.
If there is no enemy the whole army industry would suffer and
drag your economic situation in a much bigger recess than it
already is.

Fear and wars fuel economy which makes wars even sadder then
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and whats up with france? didnt we save their country from the nazi bastards, and now they won't side with us? we should have let their country go
You know a strong topic of discussion from many of my late relatives who fought in the second world war, was that 50% of france endorsed the nazis, that's why they surrendered their country so easily; so the 1/2 of the french who were aligned with the nazis, could get into power.

Most of the allied soliders at the time deeply resented the french and went to fight there with a lot of bitterness, when it was time to 'liberate' france

-one of the most f-d up places in the world, don't let them fool you into thinking, that they are something other than that
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Colin powel was the first to talk about this new message plus it give USA what they need, a relation between bin laden and irak.

They must be friend or something!
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I think he's in the safest place he could possibly be, the one place we just wouldn't even consider checking...

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Yeah I think he was at Blunt Brothers in Vancouver last week. We wierd to see a guy with a Hookah and he seemed so familiar....
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Sure, Osama's money didn't come from oil...most of it came from his family's construction biz.

However, there numerous middle eastern countries with wealthy oil barons who DO support terrorism. Not to mention, our #1 oil partner (and "friend"), the Saudis fund anti-western Wahabi schools....breeding grounds for future terrorists.

So fuck your H2....buy a hybrid! BTW...Lexus will be coming out with a hybrid SUV in the no-to-distant future....

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Look, that's all fine and good. But I still have to get from place A to place B every day. And my car requires gas. So I'm gonna buy gas.

Besides, Bin Laden's organization and the Taliban make most of their money from the distribution and manufacturing of heroin, not oil.

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