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MrMaxwell · 05-15-2012, 10:03 AM

$3500
For a one day trial

So it's off to public defender land I go

Rochard · 05-15-2012, 10:04 AM

Pay now or pay later. Your better off paying up front.

AllAboutCams · 05-15-2012, 10:04 AM

What for

LeRoy · 05-15-2012, 10:06 AM

The only thing a public defender does...

They hold the jar of Vaseline for the judge and the DA.

Oh well at least you're not out 3500

Sly · 05-15-2012, 10:08 AM

Steal the money for a decent lawyer and then have him get you out of the cash theft as well.

I'm not really serious! Though it's probably halfway decent advice, LOL.

MrMaxwell · 05-15-2012, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Steal the money for a decent lawyer and then have him get you out of the cash theft as well.

The American way

Just like these big corps destroy everything and then instead of restitution, they pay "fines"

Dvae · 05-15-2012, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

$3500
For a one day trial

So it's off to public defender land I go

epitome · 05-15-2012, 11:13 AM

You're fucked. Half the time a public defender has the wrong case file and has no idea who you are.

Find a way to pay for a lawyer.

epitome · 05-15-2012, 11:14 AM

BTW, average DWI costs about $7k when all is said and done.

baddog · 05-15-2012, 11:22 AM

I used a public defender once, they are not all hacks. Many states require their attorneys to volunteer time in court, and you can get a decent one. Of course, one time I was going to use one and decided to rep myself instead. Definitely the smart way to go at that time.

If this is your first offense, does your state offer a wet reckless to plead down to?

MrMaxwell · 05-15-2012, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

I used a public defender once, they are not all hacks. Many states require their attorneys to volunteer time in court, and you can get a decent one. Of course, one time I was going to use one and decided to rep myself instead. Definitely the smart way to go at that time.

If this is your first offense, does your state offer a wet reckless to plead down to?

We don't have any of that, apparently. No hardship thing on the DL, either, AND I had a first offense in 2007 .... We don't even have the "both tests within x%" thing, to my knowledge

Guess I have to feel out this PD and see how comfortable I am letting him hold my life in his hands ... heh

MrMaxwell · 05-15-2012, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

What happened? DUI?

Yes. Sigh.
I'm always the one motherfucker who leaves his car and walks or gets into a cab.. puts other people into cabs... or drives drunk fucks home when I didn't drink..... yet I'm up for 2nd offence dui

Motherfuck me

My luck is fucking horrible

never been so ashamed of something in my life I tell ya
and it takes a lot to make me ashamed

PR_Glen · 05-15-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Whenever I get pulled over I just show them my freemason card and they leave me alone

nice try.. you wouldn't qualify on many levels..

MrMaxwell · 05-15-2012, 12:42 PM

The worst part is that I don't think I'm even guilty. I passed the field tests. Now I'm reading that having acid reflux can add to the number, having a cell phone or being close to a tower can interfere, etc. . . Plus! The stupid machine assumes everyone has the same partition ratio and it makes its number out of a 2100x multiplication of what it measures and it measures all KINDS of different things as alcohol PLUS if you have any mouth alcohol it'll raise your number through the damned sky hell I just saw this guy on youtube, completely sober, he ate wonderbread and blew a .07

Can two drinks over the course of spending 5 hours somewhere really cause a .013? I'm not believing it ... They SHOULD have to prove I am guilty. I am going to have more evidence than THEY will, at this rate.

The implied consent thing always bothered me, as well. It is very clear that in DUI cases the constitution doesn't seem to apply. It's more of a prove you're innocent than prove I'm guilty type of thing. Plus, implied consent when you're a licensed driver means you agreed to all sorts of shit you never knew about.

Ah

Grrr

I am annoyed
And then the state hasn't responded to my hearing request
They suspend you thirty days after the incident if you don't request one within fourteen days

bigluv · 05-15-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

The worst part is that I don't think I'm even guilty. I passed the field tests. Now I'm reading that having acid reflux can add to the number, having a cell phone or being close to a tower can interfere, etc. . . Plus! The stupid machine assumes everyone has the same partition ratio and it makes its number out of a 2100x multiplication of what it measures and it measures all KINDS of different things as alcohol PLUS if you have any mouth alcohol it'll raise your number through the damned sky hell I just saw this guy on youtube, completely sober, he ate wonderbread and blew a .07

Can two drinks over the course of spending 5 hours somewhere really cause a .013? I'm not believing it ... They SHOULD have to prove I am guilty. I am going to have more evidence than THEY will, at this rate.

The implied consent thing always bothered me, as well. It is very clear that in DUI cases the constitution doesn't seem to apply. It's more of a prove you're innocent than prove I'm guilty type of thing. Plus, implied consent when you're a licensed driver means you agreed to all sorts of shit you never knew about.

Ah

Grrr

I am annoyed
And then the state hasn't responded to my hearing request
They suspend you thirty days after the incident if you don't request one within fourteen days

Yeah I guess that first DUI was a fluke too huh?

epitome · 05-15-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Yes. Sigh.
I'm always the one motherfucker who leaves his car and walks or gets into a cab.. puts other people into cabs... or drives drunk fucks home when I didn't drink..... yet I'm up for 2nd offence dui

Motherfuck me

My luck is fucking horrible

never been so ashamed of something in my life I tell ya
and it takes a lot to make me ashamed

See, I have a hard time believing this.

I am someone that truly does not drink and drive. I won't even have one drink if I'm driving because it's never just one drink.

I'm up for 0 DUI offenses and unless how I do things changes, I never will be.

Granted, I wasn't always a saint when it comes to drinking and driving. I used to drink and drive but I wised up about 7 years ago.

CurrentlySober · 05-15-2012, 01:09 PM

Ask not what a decent lawyer costs...

But ask what a decent lawyer is worth...

Ron Bennett · 05-15-2012, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Can two drinks over the course of spending 5 hours somewhere really cause a .013? I'm not believing it ... They SHOULD have to prove I am guilty. I am going to have more evidence than THEY will, at this rate.

Did they take a blood sample?

If no, then fighting it may be worth it - BUT you'll need an experienced, dedicated (as in not public defender) attorney to argue the breathalyzer machine's results aren't accurate - ie. not calibrated, not operated correctly, faulty design, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

The implied consent thing always bothered me, as well. It is very clear that in DUI cases the constitution doesn't seem to apply. It's more of a prove you're innocent than prove I'm guilty type of thing. Plus, implied consent when you're a licensed driver means you agreed to all sorts of shit you never knew about.

Most rights people presume they have are a legal fiction. Much of what one was taught in school is wrong / lies - the comedian George Carlin was spot on. Not the fault of teachers per se - they often mean well, but too have been hoodwinked into believe the system is for the average, working person - not so at all, but I digress.

As for using a public defender - it's not necessarily "free" - there can be income requirements for getting a public defender / avoid getting billed ... likely not an issue unless your income is well into the high-5 figure or more range, but something to keep in mind.

baddog · 05-15-2012, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

As for using a public defender - it's not necessarily "free" - there can be income requirements for getting a public defender / avoid getting billed ... likely not an issue unless your income is well into the high-5 figure or more range, but something to keep in mind.

Correct - ability to pay is the criteria here

MrMaxwell · 05-15-2012, 02:28 PM

They didn't take blood.. as I understand it some of the high dollar lawyers will even try to fight THAT .. improper storage, contamination, blood fragmentation or fermentation or some shit, etc etc etc ..... sounds like they're really grasping at straws trying to beat a blood test!!!

baddog · 05-15-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

..... sounds like they're really grasping at straws trying to beat a blood test!!!

You mean trying to beat a DUI

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epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	BTW, average DWI costs about $7k when all is said and done.

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MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	The worst part is that I don't think I'm even guilty. I passed the field tests. Now I'm reading that having acid reflux can add to the number, having a cell phone or being close to a tower can interfere, etc. . . Plus! The stupid machine assumes everyone has the same partition ratio and it makes its number out of a 2100x multiplication of what it measures and it measures all KINDS of different things as alcohol PLUS if you have any mouth alcohol it'll raise your number through the damned sky hell I just saw this guy on youtube, completely sober, he ate wonderbread and blew a .07 Can two drinks over the course of spending 5 hours somewhere really cause a .013? I'm not believing it ... They SHOULD have to prove I am guilty. I am going to have more evidence than THEY will, at this rate. The implied consent thing always bothered me, as well. It is very clear that in DUI cases the constitution doesn't seem to apply. It's more of a prove you're innocent than prove I'm guilty type of thing. Plus, implied consent when you're a licensed driver means you agreed to all sorts of shit you never knew about. Ah Grrr I am annoyed And then the state hasn't responded to my hearing request They suspend you thirty days after the incident if you don't request one within fourteen days

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MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	They didn't take blood.. as I understand it some of the high dollar lawyers will even try to fight THAT .. improper storage, contamination, blood fragmentation or fermentation or some shit, etc etc etc ..... sounds like they're really grasping at straws trying to beat a blood test!!!