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notjoe 02-11-2003 03:55 PM

"Libel and slander are legal claims for false statements of fact about a person that are printed, broadcast, spoken or otherwise communicated to others. Libel refers to statements in written or other permanent form, while slander refers to verbal statements and gestures. The term defamation encompasses both libel and slander."



Starting to make sense now?

Sly_RJ 02-11-2003 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe
"Libel and slander are legal claims for false statements of fact about a person that are printed, broadcast, spoken or otherwise communicated to others. Libel refers to statements in written or other permanent form, while slander refers to verbal statements and gestures. The term defamation encompasses both libel and slander."



Starting to make sense now?

You might want to read that again.

SquarePants 02-11-2003 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
notjoe - good luck trying to get good placements. Many big TGPS have a lot of respect for python and don't really like seeing you trash them on here for what you seem to think is some sort of personal gain.
Actually the thread started out pretty friendly until they both started sling mud at each other. Sad to see a decent start turn into a politcal campaign.

ElvisManson 02-11-2003 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe



Lets just say i know more than you do and i could prove it with EASE, does planetp or pplant.com or some shit like that ring a bell? i'd be more than happy to go get pics of those servers and post them. maybe explain the story behind them? Maybe you should go ask Richard about that!

As for your network, the one rob sheppard built (the guy from turbo promote) which is the same guy from webfinity, which are the same people who tucows cancelled for porn/spam (so the rumor has it)?

How about this post
https://public.layer9.com/pipermail/...ne/000025.html

or
https://public.layer9.com/pipermail/...ry/000002.html


or how about this one?

https://public.layer9.com/pipermail/...ry/000003.html

I could go find more but i actually have real work to do ;)

Yawn...I really doubt you know more than I do Joe....lol

None of those companies are owned by us, or have anything to do with Python.

Webfinity and Turbo Promote have never been part of Python and Never will be...so you can dig up all the "evidence" you want...but what does that have to do with us?

Like i said before...people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....and all of this coming from a guy that had "SPAMMER" as his license plate before he smashed up his Beemer.

notjoe 02-11-2003 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
notjoe - good luck trying to get good placements. Many big TGPS have a lot of respect for python and don't really like seeing you trash them on here for what you seem to think is some sort of personal gain.

The only personal gain i get out of this is sig exposure. I didnt start this thread to drag python into it. I was not the one to bring python into this or to bring up past history.


This thread was directed to choker and if kimmy had kept to herself instead of trying to stir up shit none of this would have happened. Why would she even come in here and post what she posted if she wasnt trying to cause shit? Lets join everyone's thread and tell them they're all nothings.


All i wanted was feedback from choker not all the bullshit which came along with it. If i am going to be accused of shit which is false then you're damn right i will stick up for myself, regardless what anyone thinks.

notjoe 02-11-2003 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by ElvisManson


Yawn...I really doubt you know more than I do Joe....lol

None of those companies are owned by us, or have anything to do with Python.

Webfinity and Turbo Promote have never been part of Python and Never will be...so you can dig up all the "evidence" you want...but what does that have to do with us?

Like i said before...people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....and all of this coming from a guy that had "SPAMMER" as his license plate before he smashed up his Beemer.

They wouldnt let me have PORNMAN so i went with spammer.
You need to get a sense of humor, lots of non spammers love that license plate!

The beemah was nice but im looking to buy a brandnew M3 soon, should be pretty sick once i get it ;)


Lets see, im not the one claiming i dont spam am i? The deeper you dig into this Brent the more links you will see to spam+python+webkrew+turbo promote.


Let me guess, you dont know anything about 800 Petrolia either right? or the GT Link running there? I guess me seeing your techies there was a dream!

ElvisManson 02-11-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe


They wouldnt let me have PORNMAN so i went with spammer.
Lets see, im not the one claiming i dont spam am i? The deeper you dig into this Brent the more links you will see to spam+python+webkrew+turbo promote.

Let me guess, you dont know anything about 800 Petrolia either right? or the GT Link running there?

Like I said Joe...you need to get your facts straight.

You can do all you want to dis-credit us and make us look bad.

It all works against YOU in the long run.

we've kept out of your business since we fired you...as agreed...have you done the same?

Kimmykim 02-11-2003 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe

The only personal gain i get out of this is sig exposure. I didnt start this thread to drag python into it. I was not the one to bring python into this or to bring up past history.

Personally I hope choker is picking up some new clients.

I don't have a sig to expose.

SleazyDream 02-11-2003 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe



The only personal gain i get out of this is sig exposure. I didnt start this thread to drag python into it.



yet you continue to do so............... let me be real simple, don't do it. People will remember this shit as python is WELL respected in this industry

notjoe 02-11-2003 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by ElvisManson


Like I said Joe...you need to get your facts straight.

You can do all you want to dis-credit us and make us look bad.

It all works against YOU in the long run.

we've kept out of your business since we fired you...as agreed...have you done the same?

Absolutely, so tell your friends to stop bringing this shit up and it'll be done with.. Like i said in previous posts i am not the one who brought this dirt up again. Im not the one who turned it into a big issue to begin with.

I have absolutely no interests in what you guys do or trying to create problems or shit like that but when your friends try to bring me down by talking shit i will defend myself.

Im sure everyone would much rather have this all left in the past as would i so try to keep a better hand of who goes around talking shit, as if they're speaking for your company.

freeadultcontent 02-11-2003 04:08 PM

damn people settle down, need post counts to slow down.
:1orglaugh


pssst 50

ElvisManson 02-11-2003 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe


Absolutely, so tell your friends to stop bringing this shit up and it'll be done with.. Like i said in previous posts i am not the one who brought this dirt up again. Im not the one who turned it into a big issue to begin with.

I have absolutely no interests in what you guys do or trying to create problems or shit like that but when your friends try to bring me down by talking shit i will defend myself.

Wrong...by posting this stupidity you call evidence you are not living up to your end.

I have not asked anyone nor will I ask anyone to make your life hard.

You must not have realized what a small community Porn is. People don't forget who gets screwed and who does the screwing. YOU will be forever painted with the brush that you chose.

I am outta here for the night. please feel free to continue to make yourself look bad in my absense. :)

Kimmykim 02-11-2003 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe
Im sure everyone would much rather have this all left in the past as would i so try to keep a better hand of who goes around talking shit, as if they're speaking for your company.
LOL I'm sure many people have lots of things they would like to leave in the past. Webmasters are like elephants sometimes tho.

notjoe 02-11-2003 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by ElvisManson


Wrong...by posting this stupidity you call evidence you are not living up to your end.

I have not asked anyone nor will I ask anyone to make your life hard.

You must not have realized what a small community Porn is. People don't forget who gets screwed and who does the screwing. YOU will be forever painted with the brush that you chose.

I am outta here for the night. please feel free to continue to make yourself look bad in my absense. :)


OK, you want to GET NASTY and make this worse.. fine,

Tell us Brent, who else was involved in thin? Didnt someone who worked for python try to broker the list along with the lesbians?

Dont you still do biz with this person? dont you still do biz with the other person, maybe because of her BF?

Who is living in the good OLD US OF A on a greencard why you still keep them employeed?

Why dont you tell us more about Site Scout and some of their projects they did while i worked there, like the browser basher?


Lots of questions which i look forward to getting a response to!
Lets not forget that i still have all the documentation to this and look forward to seeing how your responses differ (if they do) from everything publicly stated

notjoe 02-11-2003 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


LOL I'm sure many people have lots of things they would like to leave in the past. Webmasters are like elephants sometimes tho.


Everyone at one point or another has done stuff which they're not proud of. However, i didnt 'steal' the list, i wasnt the one who tried to broker it and this has been confirmed by the person who was contacted to buy the stolen list.

So why still attack me for it and say i stole it for my own personal gain? Other than me doing the job i was asked to do. the only thing i was guilty of was trying to start my own paysites while i worked for the company, with people who i had trusted at the time.

So i wanted something better for myself, sue me.

Kimmykim 02-11-2003 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe
So why still attack me for it and say i stole it for my own personal gain? Other than me doing the job i was asked to do. the only thing i was guilty of was trying to start my own paysites while i worked for the company, with people who i had trusted at the time.

So i wanted something better for myself, sue me.


YOU seem to have the guilty conscience here. I did not say that YOU stole anything. I made a joking reference to a situation that's been aired in public repeatedly, on this forum as well.

You were trying to start your own paysites while taking DVP's money? And somehow the claim that a Python mailing list made its way to you at this same time, for whatever reason, keep popping up?

Dude, this is not about what Python might do or have done.

This is about ethics and integrity, but then again maybe it's no surprise you don't see it that way.

quiet 02-11-2003 06:17 PM

:glugglug

notjoe 02-11-2003 06:23 PM

Here you go talking shit again.

"YOU seem to have the guilty conscience here. I did not say that YOU stole anything. I made a joking reference to a situation that's been aired in public repeatedly, on this forum as well. "

Dont try to turn it around here. Your the one that referenced a thread calling me a theif. It was not a joke considering the history of your comments towards me. If you dont like me because you think i ripped python off then dont joke with me because you send mixed messages.

The only think i am guilty of is going beyond the job description for them.

"You were trying to start your own paysites while taking DVP's money? And somehow the claim that a Python mailing list made its way to you at this same time, for whatever reason, keep popping up?"

Nice sentance. To start, you're again implying i stole something/took something. It isnt my fault my boss asked me to do a backup around that time, and it isnt my fault two people took something which didnt belong to them.

Yes i was taking DVP's money. I was working for him, oncall 24/7 over a two year span. What i choose to do on my own time is of no interest to anyone. I never did anything on company time which wasnt in regards to my job.

Again, this is you talking more shit.


"Dude, this is not about what Python might do or have done.

This is about ethics and integrity, but then again maybe it's no surprise you don't see it that way. "

Exactly, and with your attacks on my integrity i am left with no choice but to defend myself. You going around making it appear like i stole something from them, claiming that they're perfect and dont do nothing "bad" is complete bullshit and i will not let you trash me while you talk them up.


Stop talking shit about me and i wont see it as an attack and become defensive


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