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  • epitome
    So Fucking Lame
    • Jun 2009
    • 12156

    #91
    Yes give an amateur girl a script so it doesn't end up being realistic exgf content. Brilliant plan.

    You tell them to do what they usually do on their webcam. You're too old and removed from the biz to know this Paul, but lots of people have cam2cam and know what to do.

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    • epitome
      So Fucking Lame
      • Jun 2009
      • 12156

      #92
      Originally posted by Just Alex
      Nothing screams "better selling porn" than sets like this one (courtesy of Paul Markham Photography)



      That's awesome that Paul was able to find a girl with similar teeth as him.

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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #93
        2 scenes I can't adapt to shooting today.



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        • anexsia
          Confirmed User
          • May 2010
          • 5735

          #94
          Originally posted by Paul Markham
          So you have your idea and written a script or plan, even Ex Gf needs this. so let's write a few words on that.

          Shooting 100s of girls into a mirror, get's boring after a while. Also this content is every where, often free and no better than anything else.

          So decide what your Ex Gf content will be like, like everyone else buying off FB for pennies, or something better and different, without leaving the niche. 2 girls fooling around in a bath and the GF giving the cameraman a BJ and fucking, then the other girl filming it, is an excellent idea. Needs to be kept real so getting couples with another new girl to do this is a good way forward.

          Filming in the forest, in a car, a couple in a bath, a girl setting a camera on a tripod and doing a scene for her BF in the forces fighting over seas, or her and a girl doing a scene, 2 girls filming each other. 2 guys filming a girl then taking turns to fuck her, filming on a bus, train, plane, etc.

          Yes get the self shot FB content as well which will be the bulk of the site. Just when you find the right girls or couples who can pull this off, discuss it with them for them to go out and shoot it, then send it with the documents for your payment. No need for a professional to shoot it and beyond giving them a rough plan the shooter needs to tell them to come up with an idea. The key is getting it to look real.

          Not strictly in the narrow blinkered confines of what webmasters think of Ex Gf. As I've said this is about better selling porn and that needs to be outside this narrow confines so the buyers see a reason to join the site containing the scenes. Keep the "FB" content coming in and this is the "casting" material from which the site owner selects the right models to shoot a selection of scenes for a better price.

          Let each girl or couple shoot it their way, emphasise then having fun is the most important thing, their personalities coming over and keeping it different. How about a guy shooting his GF giving him a BJ without her knowing it's being filmed. Voyeur Ex Gf.

          Play with ideas within the niche.


          So no need for an old timer like me to adapt to shooting it.

          And please make sure the spelling and grammar is correct in your plan. Otherwise it will never get a viewers dick hard.
          You do not understand EXGF content AT ALL.

          The point of mirror shots is because it's REALISTIC, MOST girls on Facebook and Myspace have a good portion of their profile pictures taken in their bathrooms or infront of their mirrors so when you have that in EXGF content, it gives the surfer an illusion that their favorite crush is taking nude profile pictures in front of their mirror instead of just being clothed. Nowadays when teens who like each other are texting each other and get horny, they'll send quick pictures of their pussies, boobs, dicks, whatever via cellphone and get each other all worked up. So seeing stuff like that online is perfect for surfers of EXGF content...they want to feel like they could actually FUCK the girl in those pictures or that girl looks like someone that sits next to them in the classroom.

          They don't care it's the same mirror shot, thats what a lot of girls on facebook and other sites actually do, take mirror shot after mirror shot of themselves, so the surfer would love it if they were actually NUDE in those shots!

          In high school and college, girls who send nudes to the guys they like, take them in the bathroom or bedroom mirror or on their bed so this is what a lot of EXGF surfers want to see. It's the generation of facebook, myspace, and social networking that dictate this content. Taking pictures/filming on buses and trains for EXGF content? Are you kidding me? That would pretty much just be regular amateur teen content.

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          • Cherry7
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2005
            • 3564

            #95
            Originally posted by DeanCapture


            If you "really" wanted to help Max and if your heart was in the right place, you would have done what anybody with any common sense would have done. You would have gotten his email address from his sig and sent him a private email. Who knows, he may have been open to your critiques and even offered to refund your money

            But instead of acting like you have any common sense, you act like a complete dumbass. Trashing his work in public and then offering to help him.

            You know as well as I do that this isn't about $45. This is about your need to trash the work of others in an effort to make yourself look & feel important, relevant and successful. The problem here is that you only make yourself look like a hater and a complete idiot. Congratulations!!!

            I'm going to put your stupid ass on ignore now because like Max, I'm not interested in reading anything that you have to say


            This is not public, this is a forum for people of similar interests. The forum where Max Candy advertised his film, telling us how great it is.

            I took the trouble and was interested enough to buy and watch it.

            Did you?

            Do you think it was good?

            Easy to win arguments if you can decide my motivations and how other people read them.

            Interesting that people who say they are interested in photography or video making do anything to avoid any discussion of it.

            I understand that people lack knowledge, understanding or culture but why they don't want to learn I don't get.

            I suppose thats why they work in porn.
            My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye


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            • Paul Markham
              Too old to care
              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #96
              Little has changed in Man's human nature for 100,000s of years. what got him erect in the Stone Ages, gets him hard today. Yes fashions and technology has changed and we can keep up with that. what we don't need to change is the essence of porn.

              It's the illusion and passion that sells a better porn scene. It did in 1989 and it does today. getting a performance out of models that makes them believe the sex is for real, is the difference between good and bad porn.

              So how to ensure models deliver the performance?

              They are like everyone else, they respond to a "Velvet Glove" approach. The shooter or/and director should greet them when they arrive, give them a drink, tell them what's happening, have all the necessary items ready, sit down and explain what they're required to do. Even in amateur porn this is essential, just shorter explanation. "Fuck your brains out, while I shoot." Will often suffice.

              Max needs to take a lot longer to explain than an amateur style shooter. What they both need to do is know how to handle the individual personalities of people. some models need building up, others need taking down. Knowing how to motivate an individual person to produce a good performance is important when running a MacDonalds take away or shooting a porn scene or any other form of management.

              Not too soft so they take liberties, not too hard that they feel bullied, not too pervy so they feel you might want a free fuck and not too cold that they feel unappreciated. Even the way a shooter or director relates to his team is important. Don't tell some models that the person shooting you and her clowning around is your wife who will get jealous and with others, let them know it's your wife and a 3some is on the cards.

              They all have one thing in common. They're all different people. And you need to know how to manage them to get the best out of them.



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              • ottopottomouse
                She is ugly, bad luck.
                • Jan 2010
                • 13177

                #97
                Originally posted by Cherry7
                This is not public
                It is. Nobody needs to login to read.
                Originally posted by Cherry7
                Easy to win arguments if you can decide my motivations and how other people read them.
                His assessment of how other people read what you write was spot on. You are coming across in the same way as a cowboy builder who slags off everybody else's work then builds worse himself.
                ↑ see post ↑
                13101

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                • DamianJ
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 15808

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                  not too pervy so they feel you might want a free fuck

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                  • Paul Markham
                    Too old to care
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52942

                    #99
                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                    Thank you Damian.



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                    • OldJeff
                      Big Fucking hahahaha
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 2489

                      #100
                      This seems like a place for an Epic Facepalm, but I am too lazy to look for one
                      "As pornographers we must act responsibly! ;))"- Nickatilynx

                      I might be Old and Tired, but at least I don't support a whiney cunt

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                      • B.Barnato
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3618

                        #101
                        Thanks Paul, this was a really good idea for a thread.

                        Keep educating.

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #102


                          Same guy, different girl. Fast forward to 4 minutes 30 seconds.



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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #103
                            Setting an environment in which a worker can produce their best is essential in all businesses. There's nothing unique about porn that changes this. Having everything models might need ready at the shoot, refreshments, toiletries, rest areas, etc. Will all go towards the shooter looking professional, prepared and in control. Having to apologise to models that you don't have something as simple as toothpaste, mouthwash, or deodorant puts the shooter at a disadvantage.

                            Making sure that it's not freezing cold or baking hot, etc also helps.

                            Setting out the days work, order it will run in, what is required of models, wardrobe, etc also essential and again puts the shooter in command without seeming domineering.

                            You need the best out of them and these are the little things that will get this.

                            Sounds very simple, yet models who had worked elsewhere were turning up at our shoots amazed we had everything prepared. Or turning up at castings and surprised we explained things so clearly.

                            All it takes is a little bit of forethought and planning to get this right.



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                            • epitome
                              So Fucking Lame
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 12156

                              #104
                              Paul deserves an iPad for this thread. Imagine if he could do his jigsaws on an iPad.

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                              • CurrentlySober
                                Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 38938

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Cherry7
                                He posts that his films are great, that he only does the best work.
                                But Max, seriously... Doesn't that apply to everyone? I mean, I dont see you posting that your latest film is shit, or PM saying his latest scene for Manwin is shit, or anyone else for that matter saying that the latest stuff they shot was shit?

                                I mean, (lets be utterly honest?) It's self promotion... No?

                                OK, you may not like it, but thats your personal pref... However, you personal pref is SUBJECTIVE...

                                TBH, I dont really follow your argument, when you look at the bigger picture?



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