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  • ottopottomouse
    She is ugly, bad luck.
    • Jan 2010
    • 13177

    #76
    Why have you focussed the grass and not the dog?
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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942

      #77
      Originally posted by CheeseFrog
      I'm not a huge fan of "set up two strobes in a small room, crank up the power, and shoot away" type of content. But if you can make it work for you, more power to you.
      Setting up strobes is the easiest part of producing porn, thinking the setting up or not setting up of them is going to have any effect on the porn is wrong.

      Originally posted by MaDalton
      no, in your position and with your possibilities i would HAVE made much more money than you did by being less stubborn
      Sadly I'm not as clever as you.
      Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-07-2012, 04:22 AM.



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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #78
        So back to the thread.

        Interviewing experienced people needs to be done a little differently, you're just trying to find out if the models personality is right for what you need from them. It often goes beyond looks.

        Are they willing to do the scene as required, put a lot of effort into it, not going to go onto auto pilot the moment someone points the camera, not to blase about the work, etc. Ultimately the success of a porn scene comes down to the shooter and models working as a team with a goal in mind.

        It requires both of them to work hard at getting it right. Whether it's what Max shoots today or Ex Gf content an illusion has to be created that separates the scenes done that day to all the other scenes being churned out by "Paint by number" shooters. Because what sells porn is personality and the better the team capture the personality of the scene, the better it sells.

        It's not about setting the lights, it's about setting the scene in the viewers mind. All those videos were girls being themselves in a teasing sex mood, some a little fake and some not. but all coming across as I knew they could deliver and knew it would sell. Not just another girl doing another scene, to add to the pile of other girls doing other scenes.

        http://www.hardsextube.com/video/611503

        Is what I shot last year. The editor left out the parts that made the scene real, IMO. They were Sandra walking across the park towards me, while in the background she's telling people she's a model who loves her job. Then as she passes me, Sandra looks over the top of her sun glasses and smiles. This was the moment in her intro when she contacts the camera and says "And I get to share it with you."

        A solo girl, who can't be conning anyone she's Ex Gf or Amateur, contacting the viewer and telling him he's part of the scene. Add that to the rest and include the close of her sitting on the sofa, perspiring and hardly able to talk, being out of breath from multi orgasms, saying she hoped you enjoyed it as much as she did. And you have a winner.

        Shoot it with the wrong model on the wrong day, with the wrong shooter. All trying to get too much work done on a day. and you have a loser that's just filler content.



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        • Cherry7
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2005
          • 3564

          #79
          Originally posted by Paul Markham
          So back to the thread.





          http://www.hardsextube.com/video/611503

          Is what I shot last year. The editor left out the parts that made the scene real, IMO. They were Sandra walking across the park towards me, while in the background she's telling people she's a model who loves her job. Then as she passes me, Sandra looks over the top of her sun glasses and smiles. This was the moment in her intro when she contacts the camera and says "And I get to share it with you."

          .
          So why don't you edit the scene the way you wanted it to be cut?

          You did keep a backup of the material like ever professional would have?

          You do know how to edit don't you?

          After all the whole exercise is your bragging was to show us all how its done...
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          • DamianJ
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2006
            • 15808

            #80
            Hilarious. In a thread about different personalities, Paul posts the most generic, cookie cutter, can't-tell-then-apart pics!

            *And* he *thinks* they are good.

            Lolsome.

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            • Paul Markham
              Too old to care
              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #81
              Originally posted by Cherry7
              So why don't you edit the scene the way you wanted it to be cut?

              You did keep a backup of the material like ever professional would have?

              You do know how to edit don't you?

              After all the whole exercise is your bragging was to show us all how its done...
              Can't do that as it would break the contract. We kept a back up of all the content we shot for ourselves. Once the client had the master copy, we destroyed ours. So no mistakes were made.



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              • DeanCapture
                Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                • Dec 2002
                • 9275

                #82
                Originally posted by Cherry7
                I am prepared to help point out the problems and help make it better, but so far no dialog, just its great.
                If Max gives 2-shits about what you think of his work, he should have his head examined. No offense... but after taking a look at the trailers on your site, you're in no position to school Max on anything.

                Producers in this industry tickle the shit outta' me. Always trying to make themselves feel relevant by talking shit about other producers (or their work)....or trying to school them on how things should be done. If you really wanted to help Max, you would reach out to him in private via email. The only reason you're doing this in public is because you think it makes you look important. I think it makes you look like an idiot. You're starting to remind me of Paul Markham. The guy who knows everything... publicly degrading the work of others because he thinks it makes him look superior

                Some of the biggest hater/trolls on this board are producers. Instead of just posting their work and letting it speak for itself, they choose to act like idiots by publicly degrade the work of others. Fucking losers....
                Last edited by DeanCapture; 05-07-2012, 08:22 AM.
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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #83
                  Originally posted by DamianJ
                  Hilarious. In a thread about different personalities, Paul posts the most generic, cookie cutter, can't-tell-then-apart pics!

                  *And* he *thinks* they are good.

                  Lolsome.
                  You don't have to wait long for Damian to show how little he knows.

                  Which ones were shot by me, or Eva, or one of our staff or another shooter?

                  Can't believe you were so dumb as to be caught out by the same thing twice.


                  Lolsome.
                  Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-07-2012, 08:24 AM.



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                  • Paul Markham
                    Too old to care
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52942

                    #84
                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                    Those images are supposed to prove that idiot Markham ever produced anything but crap ?

                    The style is boring, the execution terrible.
                    We must listen to this man. He speaks from authority.

                    Owning a chain of porn shops in Australia which employs 300 people, Melbourne's most popular brothel, a string of blogs all hand written by his scribe in England which his Filipino wordpress people keep the back ends up to date and domain manager keeps the domains renewed, an adult website script, a hosting company, ran Australia's biggest selling semi adult magazine called Pix, runs an electricity comparison service, owns a franchise chain of juice shops and finds time to troll me with his knowledge and insight.

                    Online adult is something he just keeps a toe in, he owns all this, outsources everything and posts online as the front man.

                    We had a wonderful chat on ICQ, where he put me straight about all his companies and how great he is. Wonderful man.

                    Edit.
                    Forgot to mention, we sold to Pix years ago. Sadly was never lucky enough to meet this great man. Yes they were buying our crap pictures.
                    Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-07-2012, 08:49 AM.



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                    • Cherry7
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3564

                      #85
                      Originally posted by DeanCapture
                      If Max gives 2-shits about what you think of his work, he should have his head examined. No offense... but after taking a look at the trailers on your site, you're in no position to school Max on anything.

                      Producers in this industry tickle the shit outta' me. Always trying to make themselves feel relevant by talking shit about other producers (or their work)....or trying to school them on how things should be done. If you really wanted to help Max, you would reach out to him in private via email. The only reason you're doing this in public is because you think it makes you look important. I think it makes you look like an idiot. You're starting to remind me of Paul Markham. The guy who knows everything... publicly degrading the work of others because he thinks it makes him look superior

                      Some of the biggest hater/trolls on this board are producers. Instead of just posting their work and letting it speak for itself, they choose to act like idiots by publicly degrade the work of others. Fucking losers....
                      It is up to him whether he cares or not. He posts that his films are great, that he only does the best work.

                      I took him at his word and bought his very expensive DVD. More expensive than any Hollywood Blu Ray $45.

                      Now it is poorly shot, poorly edited, badly directed. I think that I have the right to voice that opinion.

                      We put samples of our work up here from time to time and people don't hold back. I don't say its great or I am the best, but I do point out we do certain things others don't . ( like involve the models in what they do and with whom, write scripts and other strange things ) the results we leave for others to judge.

                      You rush to Max's defense, have you paid $45 and taken the time to watch this film?

                      Do you think it is well made?

                      I have offered to help Max, 1st he can return the favor and look at a couple of our films, then we could e-mail each other.
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                      • Jim_Gunn
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 5702

                        #86
                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                        no, in your position and with your possibilities i would HAVE made much more money than you did by being less stubborn
                        Thank you for that. Paul can't even be bothered to learn how to spell or write properly in his native English language even when others hit him over the head with his mistakes repeatedly. There's no chance he could adapt or learn how to shoot porn that sells in 2012.

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                        • DeanCapture
                          Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 9275

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Cherry7

                          I have offered to help Max....


                          If you "really" wanted to help Max and if your heart was in the right place, you would have done what anybody with any common sense would have done. You would have gotten his email address from his sig and sent him a private email. Who knows, he may have been open to your critiques and even offered to refund your money

                          But instead of acting like you have any common sense, you act like a complete dumbass. Trashing his work in public and then offering to help him.

                          You know as well as I do that this isn't about $45. This is about your need to trash the work of others in an effort to make yourself look & feel important, relevant and successful. The problem here is that you only make yourself look like a hater and a complete idiot. Congratulations!!!

                          I'm going to put your stupid ass on ignore now because like Max, I'm not interested in reading anything that you have to say
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                          • Just Alex
                            Liv Benson to You, Bitch
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6060

                            #88
                            Nothing screams "better selling porn" than sets like this one (courtesy of Paul Markham Photography)



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                            • Paul Markham
                              Too old to care
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 52942

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                              Thank you for that. Paul can't even be bothered to learn how to spell or write properly in his native English language even when others hit him over the head with his mistakes repeatedly. There's no chance he could adapt or learn how to shoot porn that sells in 2012.
                              Spelling and grammar is now a requisite of shooting porn.

                              This is true about learning to adapt to selling porn in 2012. I never could figure out how to shoot such cheap porn, well figure out why I should shoot it.

                              Seriously can you tell us what's so different in today's porn world that has changed it so radically. Because I see the same thing getting a dick hard 10 years ago getting a dick hard today. Now with a lot of sites moving into the "glam" level I see so much similar to 1990 it's clear little has changed.

                              Is what Max is shooting so different from what was shot for years?

                              Maybe a sample of your version of today's new style will be the best way to illustrate it.
                              Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-07-2012, 09:02 PM.



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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #90
                                So you have your idea and written a script or plan, even Ex Gf needs this. so let's write a few words on that.

                                Shooting 100s of girls into a mirror, get's boring after a while. Also this content is every where, often free and no better than anything else.

                                So decide what your Ex Gf content will be like, like everyone else buying off FB for pennies, or something better and different, without leaving the niche. 2 girls fooling around in a bath and the GF giving the cameraman a BJ and fucking, then the other girl filming it, is an excellent idea. Needs to be kept real so getting couples with another new girl to do this is a good way forward.

                                Filming in the forest, in a car, a couple in a bath, a girl setting a camera on a tripod and doing a scene for her BF in the forces fighting over seas, or her and a girl doing a scene, 2 girls filming each other. 2 guys filming a girl then taking turns to fuck her, filming on a bus, train, plane, etc.

                                Yes get the self shot FB content as well which will be the bulk of the site. Just when you find the right girls or couples who can pull this off, discuss it with them for them to go out and shoot it, then send it with the documents for your payment. No need for a professional to shoot it and beyond giving them a rough plan the shooter needs to tell them to come up with an idea. The key is getting it to look real.

                                Not strictly in the narrow blinkered confines of what webmasters think of Ex Gf. As I've said this is about better selling porn and that needs to be outside this narrow confines so the buyers see a reason to join the site containing the scenes. Keep the "FB" content coming in and this is the "casting" material from which the site owner selects the right models to shoot a selection of scenes for a better price.

                                Let each girl or couple shoot it their way, emphasise then having fun is the most important thing, their personalities coming over and keeping it different. How about a guy shooting his GF giving him a BJ without her knowing it's being filmed. Voyeur Ex Gf.

                                Play with ideas within the niche.


                                So no need for an old timer like me to adapt to shooting it.

                                And please make sure the spelling and grammar is correct in your plan. Otherwise it will never get a viewers dick hard.
                                Last edited by Paul Markham; 05-07-2012, 09:26 PM.



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