Help a newbie - NATS 163 join submits and no signups

[foxyflesh]

I am starting out with this so need a little advice on my stats, these are for April to date

Date Raw Unique Join Hits Submits Trial Joins Full Joins Total Joins Ratio Conversions Rebills Refunds Misc Income Earned
Totals: 1,950 1,723 366 163 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0:1723 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00

I would have thought maybe 1 signup by now? How can no-one of 163 join submits actually enter their details? Sponsor site is softcore / big tits.

The majority of traffic comes from North America and Europe

ID C1 C2 Country Raw Unique Join Hits Submits Joins Unq. Ratio Rebills Refunds Misc Income Earned

840 United States (US) 988 884 166 0 0 $0.00 0:884 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
826 United Kingdom (GB) 186 174 20 20 0 $0.00 0:174 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
124 Canada (CA) 144 134 37 0 0 $0.00 0:134 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
276 Germany (DE) 121 101 27 27 0 $0.00 0:101 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00


Am using the rev share program, not PPS

Am I missing something?

[247mg]

You should contact the program and gave them detail and ask for you submits behaviour after passing NATS join page. Either decline by the biller or issue with post back of that program or particular site you promoting. Best answer will be provided by the program owner.

[iSpyCams]

If you are referring people who think its free they will back out after seeing the billing details.

[signupdamnit]

Welcome to adult 2012. Keep in mind those join submits might be for the pre join form where they enter the username and password. The actual credit card info might be collected later. Most sponsors give you nothing for this so it's a great deal for them if they can use it for marketing later. Some of the info provided will be real and some won't.

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by foxyflesh

840 United States (US) 988 884 166 0 0 $0.00 0:884 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
826 United Kingdom (GB) 186 174 20 20 0 $0.00 0:174 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
124 Canada (CA) 144 134 37 0 0 $0.00 0:134 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
276 Germany (DE) 121 101 27 27 0 $0.00 0:101 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00

join submits or just join page hits? not sure,,,

[foxyflesh]

Originally Posted by dpapa

You should contact the program and gave them detail and ask for you submits behaviour after passing NATS join page. Either decline by the biller or issue with post back of that program or particular site you promoting. Best answer will be provided by the program owner.

Sent them a mail earlier this week, no reply yet

[foxyflesh]

Originally Posted by pompousjohn

If you are referring people who think its free they will back out after seeing the billing details.

You know you may be on to something here, my text / banners don't say 'join now' or indicate its not free, so this could be part of it!

[foxyflesh]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

join submits or just join page hits? not sure,,,

I had taken screenshots of my stats, but not at 30 posts yet so can't link to them......

I looked at the stats again and saw something I missed earlier

USA Join Hits 166 Join Submits 0
Similar for Canada 0 submits...

Seems like my join submits are coming mostly from UK, Germany and then smaller countries, I guess that explains alot too.

Crap all this stuff makes me feel like an imbecile.

I guess its time to make an improvement on the banners? (I use the ones from the program so prob not ideal)

Thanks for the replies though..

[AllAboutCams]

you have only sent 1,950 hits i think its too early to say

[epitome]

Originally Posted by xxxupdate

you have only sent 1,950 hits i think its too early to say

Yup. The next 100 people that hit may have two that signup. Or nobody may ever sign up.

Is the price of the site clearly displayed or do surfers have to hit a join form to get that info? If they have to pre-submit to get it, a ton more will enter bogus details to get the info.

[foxyflesh]

Originally Posted by epitome

Yup. The next 100 people that hit may have two that signup. Or nobody may ever sign up.

Is the price of the site clearly displayed or do surfers have to hit a join form to get that info? If they have to pre-submit to get it, a ton more will enter bogus details to get the info.

Damn, am such a noob, had to go to the site to see if prices displayed.

They are, before you submit any forms. So possible people hit the join page, see the price then decide no....

"you have only sent 1,950 hits i think its too early to say" yeah, but I was hoping, 1 just ONE damn signup :D

I guess I do need to be more patient, will keep plugging away.

Any chance someone could pm me a page/s of theirs that converts well? Promise not to steal your layout etc.

[bns666]

[kal86]

any thing that involves credit cards are hard to convert I know

[foxyflesh]

Originally Posted by kal86

any thing that involves credit cards are hard to convert I know

Learning that the hard way...

Awesome sig!

[V_RocKs]

Happens often when the join page lacks the price.

[247mg]

Buddy which program is this? If no response by email disclose their name on gfy and you will get quicker response.

Prejoin submit mostly decline by billers....

[foxyflesh]

Originally Posted by dpapa

Buddy which program is this? If no response by email disclose their name on gfy and you will get quicker response.

Prejoin submit mostly decline by billers....

Will send another mail before I mention their name. Not the kind of person to start shit unless I know I am right....

I must say though, the joins submits being 0 from the US is kinda disheartening so am also going to see how a different program performs first, if its the same then I know my site does not send quality traffic, if I get a signup soon then I know its probably not me.


Thanks again to all that responded

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by foxyflesh

Will send another mail before I mention their name. Not the kind of person to start shit unless I know I am right....

I must say though, the joins submits being 0 from the US is kinda disheartening so am also going to see how a different program performs first, if its the same then I know my site does not send quality traffic, if I get a signup soon then I know its probably not me.


Thanks again to all that responded

It might take a bit, as others have said - once you have sent more traffic you should be able to tell what's working and what's not. I started promoting someone new and got a signup within the first 1,000 uniques but after sending them over 20,000...I'm still stuck with just that one signup. I'm promoting another sponsor that I sent about the same 20,000 on using the same blog and I'm converting around 1:700...you just have to experiment and figure out what works best with your traffic.

[Konda]

In NATS join submits are the amount of people that went from the pre-join page (user/pass page) TO the creditcard form.

It is very normal to have a couple of 100 'join submits' without any joins.

Only a very small number of the join submits actually fills out the creditcard form.

[SCORE Ralph]

Originally Posted by Konda

In NATS join submits are the amount of people that went from the pre-join page (user/pass page) TO the creditcard form.

It is very normal to have a couple of 100 'join submits' without any joins.

Only a very small number of the join submits actually fills out the creditcard form.

Not exactly. Join submits are the amount of people that correctly submitted the form (user/pass/join type chose are valid). However, if the program doesnt have a cascade properly setup (say, no biller on the cascade for UK traffic), then this would be a join submit that never saw a credit card (or any other payment) form.

[foxyflesh]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Signup number 1

$14.11 I AM FRIKKIN RICH

WHOOHOOO

Ok moments over, carrying on........

[Peter-Porn]

Originally Posted by foxyflesh

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Signup number 1

$14.11 I AM FRIKKIN RICH

WHOOHOOO

Ok moments over, carrying on........

The first one is the hardest.. the rest are coming soon