Interesting: English Fluency Is Greater in The Philippines than UK - GoFuckYourself.com

GeckoDude · 04-23-2012, 06:50 PM

Of the top 30 countries by size of labor force, the clear leader in business English fluency was the Philippines, the only country to score at the intermediate level (7.11) indicating the ability to take an active role in business discussion and perform complex tasks. India came in second with a score of 5.57, indicating the ability to understand business presentations and communicate descriptions of problems and solutions, but not the capability to take an active role in business discussions or perform relatively complex tasks, followed by Canada (5.45), Indonesia (5.28), and the United Kingdom (5.24).

The worst performing of the biggest countries were Colombia (2.75), Brazil (2.95), Turkey (2.97), Japan (3.40), and Mexico (3.50). There may be economic forces behind some of the lowest scoring countries. Both struggling economic power?Japan, Italy and Mexico?and fast-growth emerging markets-Brazil, Columbia and Chile?scored in the business English beginner range.

Ten Best Countries for English Proficiency (Non-Native Speakers)

1. Philippines
2. Norway
3. Serbia
4. Slovenia
5. Australia
6. Malaysia
7. India
8. Lithuania
9. Singapore
10. Canada

Ten Worst Countries for Business English Proficiency (Non-Native Speakers)

1. Armenia
2. Cote d'Ivoire
3. Taiwan
4. Honduras
5. Columbia
6. Chile
7. El Salvador
8. Saudi Arabia
9. Israel
10. Brazil

Source: Global English Business English Index 2012
http://www.cio.com/article/703628/Gl... xonomyId=3195

AdultKing · 04-23-2012, 07:12 PM

Precisely why outsourcing work the the Philippines is a smart move.

B.Barnato · 04-23-2012, 07:15 PM

We Filipinos are superior in many more ways.

BIGTYMER · 04-23-2012, 07:19 PM

Que Pasa!

Rmagnus · 04-23-2012, 07:38 PM

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RyanEagle · 04-23-2012, 08:07 PM

Chat floors anyone?

Mrwww · 04-23-2012, 08:16 PM

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bronco67 · 04-23-2012, 08:34 PM

They probably use better grammar than us idiots.

Paul Markham · 04-23-2012, 11:01 PM

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B.Barnato · 04-23-2012, 11:03 PM

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DamageX · 04-23-2012, 11:42 PM

Funny, my experience with Filipinos and Indians is the exact opposite. Sure, they speak English, but they don't understand it worth shit. Carry out complex tasks? ROTFL, anyone who's ever worked with either Filipinos or Indians will attest to the opposite.

ottopottomouse · 04-24-2012, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Funny, my experience with Filipinos and Indians is the exact opposite. Sure, they speak English, but they don't understand it worth shit. Carry out complex tasks? ROTFL, anyone who's ever worked with either Filipinos or Indians will attest to the opposite.

Unless you manage to get a direct hit on the phrase they know something as you will go round in circles trying to explain something for longer than it would have taken to just do it yourself.

lagcam · 04-24-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Unless you manage to get a direct hit on the phrase they know something as you will go round in circles trying to explain something for longer than it would have taken to just do it yourself.

In fairness most are educated to a level where they can determine whether or not your business is worth copying/stealing.

DWB · 04-24-2012, 08:20 AM

Go go Filipinos!

TisMe · 04-24-2012, 08:45 AM

Too far to swim

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iSpyCams · 04-24-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GeckoDude

Of the top 30 countries by size of labor force, the clear leader in business English fluency was the Philippines, the only country to score at the intermediate level (7.11) indicating the ability to take an active role in business discussion and perform complex tasks. India came in second with a score of 5.57, indicating the ability to understand business presentations and communicate descriptions of problems and solutions, but not the capability to take an active role in business discussions or perform relatively complex tasks, followed by Canada (5.45), Indonesia (5.28), and the United Kingdom (5.24).

The worst performing of the biggest countries were Colombia (2.75), Brazil (2.95), Turkey (2.97), Japan (3.40), and Mexico (3.50). There may be economic forces behind some of the lowest scoring countries. Both struggling economic power?Japan, Italy and Mexico?and fast-growth emerging markets-Brazil, Columbia and Chile?scored in the business English beginner range.

Ten Best Countries for English Proficiency (Non-Native Speakers)

1. Philippines
2. Norway
3. Serbia
4. Slovenia
5. Australia
6. Malaysia
7. India
8. Lithuania
9. Singapore
10. Canada

Ten Worst Countries for Business English Proficiency (Non-Native Speakers)

1. Armenia
2. Cote d'Ivoire
3. Taiwan
4. Honduras
5. Columbia
6. Chile
7. El Salvador
8. Saudi Arabia
9. Israel
10. Brazil

Source: Global English Business English Index 2012
http://www.cio.com/article/703628/Gl... xonomyId=3195

Wait, why are Canada and Australia listed as non native speakers?

BareBacked · 04-24-2012, 09:45 AM

I must be hiring the wrong people.
I think about 30% of mine I can not even communicate with in english

rogueteens · 04-24-2012, 10:15 AM

Britain will be on the Non-Native Speakers list in a few years too.

DamianJ · 04-24-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

Britain will be on the Non-Native Speakers list in a few years too.

Yeah! Get those pesky darkies out! Hanging is too good for them. Rivers of blood etc.

RebelR · 04-24-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

Wait, why are Canada and Australia listed as non native speakers?

Most likely because we have Quebec, Go to any place north or east of Montreal, and there are communities where people don't speak English at all.

Brampton Ontario, a city just outside of Toronto, has one of the highest concentrations of Indians out side of India.

Vancouver, has a high concentration of Asians and south Asians.

I suspect that these factors would skew the numbers a bit. Canada is a multi-cultural country.

v4 media · 04-24-2012, 01:58 PM

'Interesting: English Fluency Is Greater in The Philippines than UK'

I think you missed out a 'The' before UK.

mineistaken · 04-24-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Funny, my experience with Filipinos and Indians is the exact opposite. Sure, they speak English, but they don't understand it worth shit. Carry out complex tasks? ROTFL, anyone who's ever worked with either Filipinos or Indians will attest to the opposite.

Agreed, they speak some English but most of them simply do not understand the task and just say "yes" as a robot, then cooks some crappy or wrong code.
Its always best to outsource to eastern europe, from that list it would be Serbia, Slovenia, Lithuania etc.

DamageX · 04-24-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Its always best to outsource to eastern europe, from that list it would be Serbia, Slovenia, Lithuania etc.

+ Bulgaria, Romania

GeckoDude · 04-24-2012, 06:39 PM

to make it clear, the survey are not represent the whole nation population but only its Business English Proficiency

mavruda · 04-24-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

+ Bulgaria, Romania

mavruda · 04-24-2012, 11:14 PM

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Axzar · 04-25-2012, 12:28 AM

A frustrating problem is that many Filipinos who speak English proficiently leave the country.

I am an American, 8 year resident of the PHL. Ask me most anything.

v4 media · 04-25-2012, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GeckoDude

to make it clear, the survey are not represent the whole nation population but only its Business English Proficiency

to make it clear, the survey DOES not represent the whole NATION'S population, but only its Business English Proficiency.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axzar

A frustrating problem is that many Filipinos who speak English proficiently leave the country.

I am an American, 8 year resident of the PHL. Ask me most anything.

o.k what does 'Ask me most anything mean'?

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