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  • ninavain
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jan 2004
    • 6268

    #61
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    Yes, she has got a supply that matches her budget.

    It has nothing to do with 90s content and that's distracting from my point. Do you pay $3,000 for a BG video and set as a norm?

    You and I met years ago when you were interested in buying my Astral Blue content. I didn't move away from that to where I ended up because Amateur paid better.

    DWB's point is invalid. We just give the girl the instructions for the shoot and let her go and shoot it. Girls who turn up on castings and done no work, so no preconceived ideas of how it should look. Or we give the camera to a guy who cant shoot, but has the gift of the gab so able to talk girls into it and get the reaction from them. But we can't compete with the prices girls on FB charge. And to be honest, we don't want to.

    For those who can produce Met Art, Saboom, even Brazzers level. The market still exists and the higher you climb the less the competition and the more that are willing to pay. Operating at the bottom is saturated and the demand is low. So the ability to invest in ones business is limited.

    Nina, the gif looks professional and nothing like what you and DWB are describing. However I know people who can shoot that all day long, what are you paying?
    the GIF is the girl holding the camera herself..in the full video she moves it around talks to it and then fucks herself in the asshole until she screams and cum...I was at home a block away taking a nap..gave her the camera and told her I need 3 hours of footage..and pay $100 per hour..and "Ninavain" is a board name..you are talking to a man...a man that knows how to make money on very little..here's sales from clips4sale based on my cheap world content...1 customer...1 purchase about an hour ago


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    • DWB
      Registered User
      • Jul 2003
      • 31779

      #62
      Originally posted by Paul Markham
      DWB's point is invalid. We just give the girl the instructions for the shoot and let her go and shoot it. Girls who turn up on castings and done no work, so no preconceived ideas of how it should look. Or we give the camera to a guy who cant shoot, but has the gift of the gab so able to talk girls into it and get the reaction from them.
      My point is very valid. It just hasn't sunk in yet what is happening around you. I'm a producer too and I too used to make a lot of money via other methods, so I know first hand that this is a hard pill to swallow. But the sooner you do, the faster you will get caught up with the times and making money again.

      You can count on two hands the companies who will pay top dollar for glam these days. However, you can't count the number of people and companies who will pay a few hundred bucks for some good GF content.

      So you can spend a ton in production and hope to sell it to someone who may or may not be buying, or you can spend very little on production (acquiring content) and sell it for a smaller amount to many others who ARE buying. It's 2012, where do you think the money is? Unless you have a full time gig with Manwin, it's in cheaper content sold at lower prices.

      "Amateur" is massivly in and like it or not, it's only getting bigger.

      Originally posted by Paul Markham
      But we can't compete with the prices girls on FB charge. And to be honest, we don't want to.
      The FB girls are not selling it to end users. They are selling it to a middle man.

      You can sell it just as much as anyone else sells theirs and pay no more or no less for it. You have a whole country full of untapped hotties over there to poach.


      Originally posted by Paul Markham
      However I know people who can shoot that all day long
      Yet, they are not doing it. Perhaps holding out for those big $3000+ gigs that don't come anymore?

      All I'm saying is, stop knocking it and try making money with it. You don't have anything else to do, and you obviously have the sales skills to sell to magazines, so I know you can sell content to webmasters, even if they are cheap. I'd be doing the same thing if I didn't have my own sites that kept me busy.

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      • Dirty F
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2001
        • 59204

        #63
        So Simon, why don't you explain to us why you keep posting under different names.
        You dumb white trash piece of shit.

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        • ninavain
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jan 2004
          • 6268

          #64
          Originally posted by Dirty F
          So Simon, why don't you explain to us why you keep posting under different names.
          You dumb white trash piece of shit.
          contribute to the discussion or get the fuck out of here with that old dry ass fake drama bullshit..the industry is in a tail spin and you want to play Billy Badass on some dumb shit, you look like a fucking tool right now

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          • Dirty F
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 59204

            #65
            Originally posted by ninavain
            contribute to the discussion or get the fuck out of here with that old dry ass fake drama bullshit..the industry is in a tail spin and you want to play Billy Badass on some dumb shit, you look like a fucking tool right now
            So why exactly do you post on different names? Care to explain? Is that he one should run a business you think?

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            • homegrownmof
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 408

              #66
              Originally posted by Paul Markham
              Yes, she has got a supply that matches her budget.

              It has nothing to do with 90s content and that's distracting from my point. Do you pay $3,000 for a BG video and set as a norm?

              You and I met years ago when you were interested in buying my Astral Blue content. I didn't move away from that to where I ended up because Amateur paid better

              DWB's point is invalid. We just give the girl the instructions for the shoot and let her go and shoot it. Girls who turn up on castings and done no work, so no preconceived ideas of how it should look. Or we give the camera to a guy who cant shoot, but has the gift of the gab so able to talk girls into it and get the reaction from them. But we can't compete with the prices girls on FB charge. And to be honest, we don't want to.

              For those who can produce Met Art, Saboom, even Brazzers level. The market still exists and the higher you climb the less the competition and the more that are willing to pay. Operating at the bottom is saturated and the demand is low. So the ability to invest in ones business is limited.

              Nina, the gif looks professional and nothing like what you and DWB are describing. However I know people who can shoot that all day long, what are you paying?
              ********** i recall meeting, it was at the Venetian. But i never wanted your Astral Blue content- i wanted the girls. And it would have taken me forever to do what DWB posted above- explain how you need to take "Paul Markham" out of the picture and just make it about the amateur girls.

              ************ i do recall you giving me the same lecture about how much $$ you can make by selling to mags. Same shit different year.
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              • ninavain
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jan 2004
                • 6268

                #67
                Originally posted by Dirty F
                So why exactly do you post on different names? Care to explain? Is that he one should run a business you think?
                this is the nick theo opened for me..so ask him..now if you don't mind, grown ass men are conducting business..hell even Paul is above your punk ass in this thread

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                • ninavain
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6268

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                  So why exactly do you post on different names? Care to explain? Is that he one should run a business you think?
                  seriously, does my NIC make you jack off in the middle of the night

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                  • ninavain
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6268

                    #69
                    Originally posted by homegrownmof
                    ********** i recall meeting, it was at the Venetian. But i never wanted your Astral Blue content- i wanted the girls. And it would have taken me forever to do what DWB posted above- explain how you need to take "Paul Markham" out of the picture and just make it about the amateur girls.

                    ************ i do recall you giving me the same lecture about how much $$ you can make by selling to mags. Same shit different year.
                    truth

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                    • Dirty F
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 59204

                      #70
                      Originally posted by ninavain
                      this is the nick theo opened for me..so ask him..now if you don't mind, grown ass men are conducting business..hell even Paul is above your punk ass in this thread
                      Really? Nina was also posting under this nick. And you were also using another nick.
                      Weren't you even banned with 1 nick for your constant spamming?
                      I have no idea why people still do business with you. In the offline world someone with your business "skills" wouldn't be able to sell anything. You are very lucky this business full of dumb sleazebags (like yourself) exists.
                      You are pure white trash. Of the worst kind. A very low iq. Agressive, no manners whatsoever, no clue about anything. If it wasn't for the internet your daily life would consist of shooting cans outside your trailer.

                      Anybody who thinks about doing business with this idiot should look up some threads from the past. Mainly for the nick Simonsinister.

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                      • ninavain
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6268

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                        Really? Nina was also posting under this nick. And you were also using another nick.
                        Weren't you even banned with 1 nick for your constant spamming?
                        I have no idea why people still do business with you. In the offline world someone with your business "skills" wouldn't be able to sell anything. You are very lucky this business full of dumb sleazebags (like yourself) exists.
                        You are pure white trash. Of the worst kind. A very low iq. Agressive, no manners whatsoever, no clue about anything. If it wasn't for the internet your daily life would consist of shooting cans outside your trailer.

                        Anybody who thinks about doing business with this idiot should look up some threads from the past. Mainly for the nick Simonsinister.
                        lol..thanks for the trip down memory lane Marty McFly


                        now for more samples
                        btw..this is award winner Andy San Dimas ( I brought her to vegas in 07 and introduced her to the game) You can thank me for that










                        that last girl turned out to be fantastic, gave some great bjs and hjs..good fuck too
                        Last edited by ninavain; 04-25-2012, 03:40 PM.

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                        • mineistaken
                          See signature :)
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 29656

                          #72
                          Originally posted by looky_lou
                          Or, if shot properly, sell it for $300 non-exclusive and sell it 10 times.
                          Who would buy ex gf non exclusive for 300$ ?

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                          • ninavain
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6268

                            #73
                            Originally posted by mineistaken
                            Who would buy ex gf non exclusive for 300$ ?
                            every fucking body

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                            • mineistaken
                              See signature :)
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 29656

                              #74
                              Originally posted by ninavain
                              every fucking body
                              At least on this forum I see people selling in 10$ or 25$ price range, why would they sell that if everybody would pay 20 times more?

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                              • ninavain
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 6268

                                #75
                                Originally posted by mineistaken
                                At least on this forum I see people selling in 10$ or 25$ price range, why would they sell that if everybody would pay 20 times more?
                                fuck I don't know..is it legal? If so, show me that shit and I'll buy some myself
                                I have 5k pix and 100 videos for my $300 package it's fair and it's not too much

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