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  • grumpy
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2002
    • 9870

    #46
    so a piercing is key i presume?
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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204

      #47
      Originally posted by ninavain
      why don't you ask Theo you fucking troll bitch
      How the fuck is he supposed to know who sits behind the computer? You dumb spamming cunt.

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      • ninavain
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jan 2004
        • 6268

        #48
        Originally posted by Dirty F
        How the fuck is he supposed to know who sits behind the computer? You dumb spamming cunt.
        he knows who he activated the username for, you cocksucking loser.. and why do you give two shits, you're nothing BUT a bitch that posts all the damn time. Get with the program, boy
        Last edited by ninavain; 04-25-2012, 11:33 AM.

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        • DWB
          Registered User
          • Jul 2003
          • 31779

          #49
          Originally posted by Paul Markham

          Professionals will churn out this content all day long. All you have to do is be able to afford it. Or stay with girls on FB.
          This is simply not true. The problem is that 99% of the "professionals" can't actually dumb their shoots down to make the content look authentic. They can't take themselves out of the equation, and this is why they sell crappy GF content.

          Forget about what it costs to make. That is irrelevant. It has to be authentic if it's going to sell, and time, and time, and time again, "professionals" are unable to create it. You can't shoot authentic GF content in a studio, in a clean room or bathroom. It doesn't work. It's not real. It doesn't look real. These whores all live in dirty apartments, marks on their mirrors, clothes hanging about, messy dressers, and so on. Unless you go to their house and turn them loose with a camera, most professionals will screw these types of simple shoots up. That's all there is to it. Not for $300, not for $3000, the result is the same, FAKE looking ex-gf content.

          You can count the guys who come up with good authentic looking GF content on one hand.

          If you want the best GF content, get it from the girls directly. There is no "producer" in realistic GF content, because there is nothing to produce. Therefor, it would never, ever cost $6000 (or even $600) to create, because you, the producer, is not needed. All that is needed is some guy telling a girl to give him photos and he'll pay her. He doesn't even have to know how to turn a camera on. Difficult concept sometimes for a producer to grasp, but that's how it is now.

          Paul, I have a lot of respect for you as producer and a vet in the biz, but you're missing the bigger picture here. Guys who can do what you did are few and far between. Guys who can shoot for Met-Art are few and far between. And while it may be more rewarding from a creative point of view (because the financial rewards for such things are over), when it comes time to cashing checks these days, being creative takes a back seat. However, these days a guy doesn't even have to know how to work a camera and he can still make money from girls willing to do all the work for him. That is brilliant on another level. AND IT SELLS!!!! The more amateur it is, the better it sells. The shittier you think it looks, the more money it will probably make. There is no waiting months to collect, they can sell it right away because it's cheap. Think Walmart, not Gucci.

          What you did is dead and gone. Those types of dollar amounts, gone. Not even worth talking about, because those days are never coming back. Ever. Neither are my DVD sales that I used to make good money on. Gone. Swallow the pill that you don't have to be great or professional to make money anymore, even if they dollar amount per set is lower than it used to be. But production is cheaper than it used to be too, as is equipment. It's a hard pill to swallow, but the entire industry changed, like it or not, and this is where we are. All of us. Professionals and non-professionals. Now, everyone just does what they can do keep moving forward. I too wish the "good 'ol days" would come back but they never will.

          It does you a great disservice to discredit this type of content, be it for quality or price, and really makes you look like you can not adapt or understand what has happened around you. You could cash in on it too and make supplemental income without doing anything at all other than turning girls loose with a camera. IMHO, that is what I would be doing if I was you and retired. Find the girls, let them do all the work, and you sell it at a fair, competitive price. But the trick to the whole thing, is taking "Paul Markham" out of the equation. There can be no you involved in creating the content, or it won't be authentic. That is the key.

          I'd rather see you back to making money and having adapted to the crazy industry we're in now than beating dead horses on GFY. You have skills to shoot, there is no denying that, but they are no longer needed to make money. The only skill needed is the skill to sell the content someone else shoots (cheaply) for you. THAT is what you need to get your head around.

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          • nikki99
            Supermodel
            • Nov 2004
            • 23087

            #50
            Originally posted by ninavain

            Rule #2 Hi quality photos is ironic and doesn't make sense in this niche..some blurry, some not as big as others, some that looks like ex Bf took them as well.
            Hiring NALEM for some XGF content right now

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            • Paul Markham
              Too old to care
              • Jun 2001
              • 52942

              #51
              Originally posted by Paul
              Good thread till PM came into it and ruined it like he does with every other thread.
              Sorry if my pointing out most of you can't afford to invest in your businesses upsets you. You see I come from a business where investing in what we did was normal.

              Met Art and a host of other top sites didn't get where they are today without a lot of investment.

              Anyway sharing advice like Nina is, isn't the cleverest business model. Now you're asking her to walk you through her process. How about she just finds them for you and sends them straight to you.

              epitome will you tell that to the judge when you're in court for publishing CP?

              Nine, go ask a lawyer, don't listen to people on a board when it comes to your freedom.



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              • Dirty F
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2001
                • 59204

                #52
                Originally posted by ninavain
                he knows who he activated the username for, you cocksucking loser.. and why do you give two shits, you're nothing BUT a bitch that posts all the damn time. Get with the program, boy
                Jesus christ, are you really THIS fucking stupid or what. Once again retard, how can Theo possibly know who is posting under what nick. Imbecile.

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                • homegrownmof
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 408

                  #53
                  Paul you are so clearly out of line here it is insane.

                  Ninavain has nailed that ex-gf niche

                  You're still hyping 90s content, and in the midst of that trying to tell Ninavain how to shoot.

                  When will it end?
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                  • ninavain
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6268

                    #54
                    Originally posted by DWB
                    This is simply not true. The problem is that 99% of the "professionals" can't actually dumb their shoots down to make the content look authentic. They can't take themselves out of the equation, and this is why they sell crappy GF content.

                    Forget about what it costs to make. That is irrelevant. It has to be authentic if it's going to sell, and time, and time, and time again, "professionals" are unable to create it. You can't shoot authentic GF content in a studio, in a clean room or bathroom. It doesn't work. It's not real. It doesn't look real. These whores all live in dirty apartments, marks on their mirrors, clothes hanging about, messy dressers, and so on. Unless you go to their house and turn them loose with a camera, most professionals will screw these types of simple shoots up. That's all there is to it. Not for $300, not for $3000, the result is the same, FAKE looking ex-gf content.

                    You can count the guys who come up with good authentic looking GF content on one hand.

                    If you want the best GF content, get it from the girls directly. There is no "producer" in realistic GF content, because there is nothing to produce. Therefor, it would never, ever cost $6000 (or even $600) to create, because you, the producer, is not needed. All that is needed is some guy telling a girl to give him photos and he'll pay her. He doesn't even have to know how to turn a camera on. Difficult concept sometimes for a producer to grasp, but that's how it is now.

                    Paul, I have a lot of respect for you as producer and a vet in the biz, but you're missing the bigger picture here. Guys who can do what you did are few and far between. Guys who can shoot for Met-Art are few and far between. And while it may be more rewarding from a creative point of view (because the financial rewards for such things are over), when it comes time to cashing checks these days, being creative takes a back seat. However, these days a guy doesn't even have to know how to work a camera and he can still make money from girls willing to do all the work for him. That is brilliant on another level. AND IT SELLS!!!! The more amateur it is, the better it sells. The shittier you think it looks, the more money it will probably make. There is no waiting months to collect, they can sell it right away because it's cheap. Think Walmart, not Gucci.

                    What you did is dead and gone. Those types of dollar amounts, gone. Not even worth talking about, because those days are never coming back. Ever. Neither are my DVD sales that I used to make good money on. Gone. Swallow the pill that you don't have to be great or professional to make money anymore, even if they dollar amount per set is lower than it used to be. But production is cheaper than it used to be too, as is equipment. It's a hard pill to swallow, but the entire industry changed, like it or not, and this is where we are. All of us. Professionals and non-professionals. Now, everyone just does what they can do keep moving forward. I too wish the "good 'ol days" would come back but they never will.

                    It does you a great disservice to discredit this type of content, be it for quality or price, and really makes you look like you can not adapt or understand what has happened around you. You could cash in on it too and make supplemental income without doing anything at all other than turning girls loose with a camera. IMHO, that is what I would be doing if I was you and retired. Find the girls, let them do all the work, and you sell it at a fair, competitive price. But the trick to the whole thing, is taking "Paul Markham" out of the equation. There can be no you involved in creating the content, or it won't be authentic. That is the key.

                    I'd rather see you back to making money and having adapted to the crazy industry we're in now than beating dead horses on GFY. You have skills to shoot, there is no denying that, but they are no longer needed to make money. The only skill needed is the skill to sell the content someone else shoots (cheaply) for you. THAT is what you need to get your head around.
                    this is just brilliant

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                    • ninavain
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6268

                      #55
                      Originally posted by homegrownmof
                      Paul you are so clearly out of line here it is insane.

                      Ninavain has nailed that ex-gf niche

                      You're still hyping 90s content, and in the midst of that trying to tell Ninavain how to shoot.

                      When will it end?
                      thank you

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                      • nikki99
                        Supermodel
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 23087

                        #56
                        DWB now I know why my selfshot mirror pics to my cock DOES sell
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                        • ninavain
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6268

                          #57

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                          • Far-L
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 6065

                            #58
                            Originally posted by ninavain
                            thank you
                            I have to agree and bow to your genius concerning this type of content - and I agree with Mutt that you and Adendreams are part of a very small group of pro producers that "get it". If you don't mind I am going to incorporate much of what you suggested into our shooting guidelines for producers.
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                            • Paul Markham
                              Too old to care
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 52942

                              #59
                              Originally posted by homegrownmof
                              Paul you are so clearly out of line here it is insane.

                              Ninavain has nailed that ex-gf niche

                              You're still hyping 90s content, and in the midst of that trying to tell Ninavain how to shoot.

                              When will it end?
                              Yes, she has got a supply that matches her budget.

                              It has nothing to do with 90s content and that's distracting from my point. Do you pay $3,000 for a BG video and set as a norm?

                              You and I met years ago when you were interested in buying my Astral Blue content. I didn't move away from that to where I ended up because Amateur paid better.

                              DWB's point is invalid. We just give the girl the instructions for the shoot and let her go and shoot it. Girls who turn up on castings and done no work, so no preconceived ideas of how it should look. Or we give the camera to a guy who cant shoot, but has the gift of the gab so able to talk girls into it and get the reaction from them. But we can't compete with the prices girls on FB charge. And to be honest, we don't want to.

                              For those who can produce Met Art, Saboom, even Brazzers level. The market still exists and the higher you climb the less the competition and the more that are willing to pay. Operating at the bottom is saturated and the demand is low. So the ability to invest in ones business is limited.

                              Nina, the gif looks professional and nothing like what you and DWB are describing. However I know people who can shoot that all day long, what are you paying?



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                              • uniquemkt
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 305

                                #60
                                I think it is fair to say that the market for Glam content doesn't overlap so heavily with the Homemade content market. It is a different product for a different customer. From what I've seen, the Homemade product is gaining ground fast.

                                I see threads on GFY about how much time people are spending with post-production, how much they're spending on cameras, etc.. That is a different product, for a different customer, in a different (enough) market.

                                The ultimate ex-gf/homemade content is shot by the girl with a cell phone in a bathroom. Angie Varona unwittingly did it right.

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