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  • BNMedia
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2009
    • 433

    #1

    Opinions on join page requested

    Hey folks.
    I've been messing around with my join pages again this week and I'm torn between two. So I would like opinions from a surfers point of view and a webmasters point of view. Ie Are the options easy to understand.

    1) http://join.kinkykicks.net/signup/si...MC4wLjA&step=2
    This is the current live join page I'm running with at the moment and have been for a while. It's powered by NATS and I've omitted the user / pass box.
    It has converted pretty well in the past, although this week has been very up and down!

    2) http://join.kinkykicks.net/signup/si...pl=join_basic2
    This is what I have been playing with today. I see a lot of the bigger sites using this sort of setup. Ie. user / pass / email input boxes with radio buttons for join options and have attempted to set something up similar.
    How do you think it looks? Does this sort of pre-join form convert better?

    As a surfer does 1 or 2 seem better to you?
    As a webmaster would you prefer using one style over the other?

    Please give me your input.

    Hopefully I have not made too many mistakes. Its almost 4am here and my eyes are going!

    Thanks.
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  • BareBacked
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2007
    • 3685

    #2
    It is totally confusing for the user.

    It sat there clicking $29.95 for 30 days recurring
    button 2 or 4 times before I noticed you have to click it to hi light it then click join again
    Total nightmare

    I would guess you would cut your joins in half if you use this form


    Do not be offended. I am trying to help you make money
    use what users are used too
    NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

    Selfies

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    • BNMedia
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2009
      • 433

      #3
      I'm not offended at all.
      That's exactly the sort of feedback I need.
      Thanks.
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      • porno jew
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Nov 2006
        • 10166

        #4
        second one for sure.

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        • L-Pink
          working on my tan
          • Mar 2005
          • 39151

          #5
          Looks like join pages for two different sites. The first leather clad lesbians. The second has a male submissive in each photo, obvious Fem-Dom.

          Go with the second. Your future customer see's what he is interested in as he joins.

          .
          Last edited by L-Pink; 04-21-2012, 07:09 PM.

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          • BNMedia
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2009
            • 433

            #6
            Thanks for the input guys.
            I showed one of my friends today and he preferred the first!
            I've asked the opinion of another couple of guys I know interested in this niche and I'll try and make the right decision on which version to settle on.
            Personally I prefer the second one too.
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            • DWB
              Registered User
              • Jul 2003
              • 31779

              #7
              I like the first one (but think they are both too busy), but don't listen to any of us.

              A/B test them. That is the only way you're going to know which one is better.

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              • BNMedia
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2009
                • 433

                #8
                Originally posted by DWB
                I like the first one (but think they are both too busy), but don't listen to any of us.

                A/B test them. That is the only way you're going to know which one is better.
                Of course I will listen. Provided comments are valid
                If you think both of those are busy though take a look at http://join.kinkykicks.net/signup/si...ep=2&tpl=join2

                I went live with this one for a couple of days last week and it didn't do too well. I decided that this one really is too busy!
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                • DWB
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 31779

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BNMedia
                  Of course I will listen. Provided comments are valid
                  If you think both of those are busy though take a look at http://join.kinkykicks.net/signup/si...ep=2&tpl=join2

                  I went live with this one for a couple of days last week and it didn't do too well. I decided that this one really is too busy!
                  That one looks busy to me as well. My eyes are fighting for what to look at when they should be directed to the most important part.

                  Honestly, the best thing you can do is test each and every one of them with a decent amount of traffic, at least enough to make a valid test. Many times the page, ad, form, or whatever that I thought was the best, wasn't the best.

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                  • SIK
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1497

                    #10
                    dude... both of those SUCK

                    you got more texts and different eye catching textlines than any news portal

                    simplify it:
                    - join options (month, 3 months.. whatever)
                    - a nice box with - when you join: you get this, this this, and that (bulleted)
                    - a few decoration pics
                    - super small support/whatever texts below

                    there ya go, I just improved your conversions by frikkin 500%
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                    • BNMedia
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 433

                      #11
                      OK, based on everyones input I have built another pre-join page at http://join.kinkykicks.net/signup/si...ep=2&tpl=join4

                      It's based on the second example and I've tried to make it less busy.
                      Going to go live with this shortly and hopefully it will do OK.
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                      • L-Pink
                        working on my tan
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 39151

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BNMedia
                        OK, based on everyones input I have built another pre-join page at http://join.kinkykicks.net/signup/si...ep=2&tpl=join4

                        It's based on the second example and I've tried to make it less busy.
                        Going to go live with this shortly and hopefully it will do OK.
                        I like your new page but the photo isn't doing anything for me.

                        .

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                        • BNMedia
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 433

                          #13
                          Originally posted by L-Pink
                          I like your new page but the photo isn't doing anything for me.

                          .
                          Ha ha. OK. I know it'll never please everyone but I'll have a think about the photo.
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                          • BNMedia
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 433

                            #14
                            Photo changed
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                            • selena
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 7995

                              #15
                              Off topic, but do you have pic content zips for affiliate use?
                              ~
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                              Where Flawless Beauty Meets Art
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                              • BNMedia
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 433

                                #16
                                Originally posted by selena
                                Off topic, but do you have pic content zips for affiliate use?
                                Not many. I made some up for an affiliate a while ago but I can probably get some more made up on request if I get chance.
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                                • selena
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 7995

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BNMedia
                                  Not many. I made some up for an affiliate a while ago but I can probably get some more made up on request if I get chance.
                                  That would be good. I'd like to promote it, if I can get what I need. Nothing fancy, just zip sets of 15 pics or so.
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                                  MetArtMoney
                                  Where Flawless Beauty Meets Art
                                  ~The MetArt Network ~
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                                  • livexxx
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 1201

                                    #18
                                    everything you say, or they say is subjective. Everything a marketing person says is also subjective. I've yet to see in adult people truly define user voices for customers and personality profiles or employ behavioural psychologists. I could be wrong, but bear with me.

                                    Basically it is all bollocks, even A/B testing is partially crap. although you are trying to present two hugely different designs here, so the 1st step is an A.B for both designs that gives a starting point. Too much credence is given to Hippos. Highly Inflated Paid Peoples Opinions, or the Boss as they are normally known as.

                                    I am going to write an article on why multi variate testing is the only way to proceed with your A and your B. You should be testing X*Y*Z*A n! variants on both A & B forks, instead of guessing, you can bask in the knowledge that maths will resolve your questions unequivocally. (OK black swan events = whales as the exception). Plain speak, test 100's of variations of A and 100's for B and then make an informed decision.

                                    I will relent in so much as a marketing person can give you variant solutions on what "may" work and you can put these in as experimental steps. but the final result is based on facts.

                                    SO, first things first, are you on google analytics, then look up MVT
                                    Last edited by livexxx; 04-23-2012, 06:04 PM.
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                                    • bean-aid
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jun 2011
                                      • 16493

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BNMedia
                                      OK, based on everyones input I have built another pre-join page at http://join.kinkykicks.net/signup/si...ep=2&tpl=join4

                                      It's based on the second example and I've tried to make it less busy.
                                      Going to go live with this shortly and hopefully it will do OK.
                                      The best yet... the first one in your original post was not good at all... I would think about 75% if not more loss in sales.

                                      I don't like check either (massive, massive chargebacks with ccbill. I had to just eliminate it all together)... if you want to do check, offer it as a backup solution and go with someone like http://www.achdebit.com/

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                                      • brentbacardi
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2009
                                        • 1425

                                        #20
                                        Didn't read it all but it looks confusing!

                                        Too many buttons. Try to cut down. ie pay by echeck should be alternate payment with the telephone, not up with CCs. Thats where I would put it anyways.

                                        Also all the shit at the bottom. Not sure what your processors require but id put one support button that then had all the support options in it. Idk if they require it like that though.

                                        FYI: I do not run an adult paysite
                                        Go Fuck Yourself!

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                                        • videoscribe
                                          Banned by fatfoo
                                          • Apr 2012
                                          • 362

                                          #21
                                          I like join page #2, because it shows the form at the top of the page. Instantly, users see the option to enter username, password and email and to click join. Payment type is credit card. The kinky images in the middle of the page are high quality.

                                          A clickable box in #1 that says $29.95 for 30 days recurring is not such a good idea. It is a better idea to make a drop down box in #2 with options to choose price. This one looks more user friendly. It is better to navigate.
                                          Banned by fatfoo

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                                          • DamianJ
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2006
                                            • 15808

                                            #22
                                            Doesn't matter two shits what anyone here thinks. Read livexxx's post 3 times, and do what he says.

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                                            • Rochard
                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 75733

                                              #23
                                              Do you have magic join pages? If not, your good.
                                              Herschel Savage
                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                              • BNMedia
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2009
                                                • 433

                                                #24
                                                OK, finally version is http://join.kinkykicks.net/signup/si...MC4wLjA&step=2

                                                Thanks to all who have made valid points. I've spent far too long on this and messed it up earlier today and couldn't process due to missing a <form tag.
                                                I'm happy with this now and need to start channelling my efforts into other areas.
                                                Cheers
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