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Old 04-19-2012, 02:11 PM   #1
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Would a GUN have helped the family in this situation? (VIDEO)

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Old 04-19-2012, 02:24 PM   #2
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not really because the attackers pulled a gun first....not much you can do then if you are not trained to the max for such situations and few people are....what would have helped the family was the father walking with a drawn gun 24/7 but this is unrealistic
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:30 PM   #3
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LOL at the dumb ass at the end of the video acting like it wouldn't be as bad if they did it to a white man in a different neighbourhood for a change instead of doing it to another "brother".
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duck taped the head in the toilet ?
sodomized ?
I guess he learned it in prison...

Its what happen when you put a 18yo guy in prison for small crimes, instead of sending him to school.

at 25 he come out as a crime machine and on top of it .. after 7 years in jail he now sodomize his victims
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Gun owners just assume that when attacked they'll be able to arm themselves AND be able to defend themselves. I disagree. I'm forty-three years olds, overweight, and if you break into my house at 3am in the morning I'm not going to be able to find my fucking slippers in time no less arm myself.

And yes, I do have firearms in my house. But I'm no illusion I'll be able to arm myself quickly enough. This is why I have an alarm system.
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Gun owners just assume that when attacked they'll be able to arm themselves AND be able to defend themselves. I disagree. I'm forty-three years olds, overweight, and if you break into my house at 3am in the morning I'm not going to be able to find my fucking slippers in time no less arm myself.

And yes, I do have firearms in my house. But I'm no illusion I'll be able to arm myself quickly enough. This is why I have an alarm system.
So if there is no alarm system in the house, the poor owner mentioned in the story should just take it up the pooper like a trooper?
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It sounds like they were there for a while. There were three victims. I would have to guess that at during the first 600 seconds, there was probably a four second opportunity for pne of the three to put an end to it, had they been prepared to defend themselves.
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duck taped the head in the toilet ?
sodomized ?
I guess he learned it in prison...

Its what happen when you put a 18yo guy in prison for small crimes, instead of sending him to school.

at 25 he come out as a crime machine and on top of it .. after 7 years in jail he now sodomize his victims
God Bless, that is what a prison is for. How can you ever come out of there as anything less than a killing crime machine. Some people even go in there and consider it as college. It's fucking cheaper and you can learn lots of fucking skills that are much more useful than shitty ass schools like ITT Tech and Everest train you for.
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It sounds like they were there for a while. There were three victims. I would have to guess that at during the first 600 seconds, there was probably a four second opportunity for pne of the three to put an end to it, had they been prepared to defend themselves.
PNE? What's that?
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PNE? What's that?

It's kinda like "one" but with a typo.
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Just put this in your front yard
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Just put this in your front yard
Its right over your head Vendzilla.

Irony dont you just love it.

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Its right over your head Vendzilla.

Irony dont you just love it.

Title of the thread, would a gun have helped the family? make people believe you have a gun and they're more likely to move on to the next house, if you had half a brain, you could have seen that.

Got to love the idiots that post with laughing smile faces with no clue as to what's going on!
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Just put this in your front yard
That is bloody priceless.
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i think the nuttiest of gun nuts would admit that they can't protect themselves from every form of attack so i don't see the point you are trying to make with this thread...
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i think the nuttiest of gun nuts would admit that they can't protect themselves from every form of attack so i don't see the point you are trying to make with this thread...
I think the word you are looking for deterent.

I think the nuttiest of anti-gun nuts thinks the police will save you, that family didn't do too well
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OP's question is kind of silly.

It might have "helped", or it might not.

Might have gotten the family killed, or someone in the family killed, might not.

It might have let the family get away without being raped, it might not.

In an actual situation, you make the best decisions, second by second, that you can.

I happen to have guns hidden in various places thruout my house, but most people can't, don't, or won't do such a thing. My kids are grown and gone, and I don;t typically have guests, so I can do that; most people can't, and it would be irresponsible gun handling protocol to advise it, and only a macho idiot would suggest it.

A gun in a gunsafe in the bedroom is not much use to you if you have two guns pointed at you and your loved ones in the living room.

Stop being silly.
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It sounds like they were there for a while. There were three victims. I would have to guess that at during the first 600 seconds, there was probably a four second opportunity for pne of the three to put an end to it, had they been prepared to defend themselves.
expecting a woman to make a dash for a gun as their husband is being shoved into the apartment at shotgun point makes no sense.

thats macho bullshit talk that shows no understanding of real world gun handling.
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Gun owners just assume that when attacked they'll be able to arm themselves AND be able to defend themselves. I disagree. I'm forty-three years olds, overweight, and if you break into my house at 3am in the morning I'm not going to be able to find my fucking slippers in time no less arm myself.

And yes, I do have firearms in my house. But I'm no illusion I'll be able to arm myself quickly enough. This is why I have an alarm system.
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I guess he learned it in prison...

Its what happen when you put a 18yo guy in prison for small crimes, instead of sending him to school.

at 25 he come out as a crime machine and on top of it .. after 7 years in jail he now sodomize his victims
really?
prison has two objectives
the main one is to be a punishment and deterrent, preventing criminal activity.
the second is to attempt to rehabilitate the criminals. we all know this is minor, even so it is probably such a crappy time in jail that they really dont want to go back there again, ever.
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really?
prison has two objectives
the main one is to be a punishment and deterrent, preventing criminal activity.
the second is to attempt to rehabilitate the criminals. we all know this is minor, even so it is probably such a crappy time in jail that they really dont want to go back there again, ever.
In the US, yes, but in most other CIVILIZED countries - something else happens...... education of the inmates in order to cope with life after prison. Weird, I know...
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there are studies suggesting that much of a persons behavior is directed by genetics.
sure, you can still learn. especially in the early years of life, also known as the forming years.
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So if there is no alarm system in the house, the poor owner mentioned in the story should just take it up the pooper like a trooper?
I didn't say that.

I'm a former US Marine. I've fired every gun you can imagine. I'm trained in and studied combat tactics. For two years I was an instructor teaching combat tactics to Marine officers. I'm forty-three years old now. When the police banged on my door at 2am last year because they had the wrong house, it took me two minutes to figure out what the fuck was going on and another two minutes to shut the alarm and get the door open - And even then I wasn't prepared to go into any kind of tactical situation.

Anyone who thinks they can go from a dead sleep to grabbing their firearms and getting into a gun battle with an unknown amount of combatants in the middle of the night in the dark is kidding themselves. The odds of me shooting my own family members is greater than shooting anyone else. The only person that can do this is James Bond - and he doesn't exist.
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