Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18883351)

Personally, i am 100% for the USA pulling out of the world and letting the rest of the world deal with the consequences. No more massive military budget. No more foreign aid. No more weapons. No more UN. No more trade deficits. No more military bases. etc etc etc.

That said, from a practical standpoint... why should china deal with it? China is going to do anything that rubs the US the wrong way, just as Russia does... which means letting N Korea have nuclear weapons and arm every radical/unstable government on the planet while they continue to threaten Korea, Japan et al. How do you think China will deal with it? N. Korea just tested a rocket. That is always 100% political. They want to challenge the US. They want to flex for the world. China and Russia are NEVER going to get in the way of that. How has China done anything to begin with? What did China do when they broke all their previous agreements, started enriching uranium, kicked out UN IAEA inspectors, threatened the USA with war if aid stopped to them etc etc etc. ?

If the world cared about N Korea, they'd send in teams in to wipe out their "Dear Leader" and all his loyal staff and try to feed the people. The world doesn't care about people. The world cares about posturing.

The US should not be playing "World Police" - but who tries to feed these people? Who takes an active role in talking to these idiots (apart from neighbors as it relates to their own security). Who sheds a tear for the millions of starved to death N Koreans over the last 20 years? I get people bitching about the USA trying to police the world... but at the same time, who's trying to prevent this idiot from selling nuclear weapons to HAMAS & Co.? No one. This is also a very serious problem and one that can't be ignored.

The UN and its member countries should be doing their job. But the UN is also nothing but a political platform for posturing at the direct expense of innocent people.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18883356)

And you shouldn't be ashamed you are an American.

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18883257)

which way did it go? lol

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18883371)

The US is marketed to as as World Police, but really they are being used to build a Clandestine Empire

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18883371)

The US is marketed to us as World Police, but really they are being used to build a Clandestine Empire

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18883374)

Exactly! Just as you are being used to pollute the gene pool.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18883371)

The US is marketed to us as World Police, but really they are being used to build a Clandestine Empire

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18883377)

In retrospect, what would you do different? Curious?

They beat me down LOL

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18883351)

Personally, i am 100% for the USA pulling out of the world and letting the rest of the world deal with the consequences. No more massive military budget. No more foreign aid. No more weapons. No more UN. No more trade deficits. No more military bases. etc etc etc.

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18883383)

Is it even possible to have a clandestine empire technically? I mean I understand the term JUMBO SHRIMP, but CLANDESTINE EMPIRE is that even possible? Just curious

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18883385)

I'm all for it too. But it will never happen. When a country needs it's military, it needs to be there AND be ready to fight - not like during WWII when the US wasn't ready and had to train and gear it up it's military.

We do need to slim down, however. We have bases all around the world, and frankly, we don't need them all.

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18883251)

There is no oil or other commodities so no excuse to make up WMD's and invade. I don't see a war with North Korea ever now that the lame excuse of communism has been put to rest.

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18883484)

The irony is they DO have WMDs and we (the west) have chosen to pretty much ignore them.

The UN is a waste of time, space and money - They will talk about it for a while and then condemn them. OH NO!! - Its the international equivalent of Rothstein calling you an idiot on GFY.

I genuinely think that we (in the west) for all it MANY MANY faults are closest to getting 'it' right. If we go in unilaterally to point them in the right direction and to protect our interests then I am all for it.

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18883498)

They have WMD's on themselves, Let them use them and then lets see China actually do something for once in their existance.


They are no threat to us unless you are a Republican.

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 18883522)

I forgot to mention the plight of millions of N Koreans - We have an obligation to them as fellow humans to protect them from abuse.

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18883538)

You know we really actually don't. If you want to think we do you're more left than I am.

Women in Africa are being raped by bayonets and extras everyday. Why should we care about the North Koreans?

The fucking Arabs stood up for themselves recently and I would far better support them.

I don't really get this US supporting everyone bullshit. 200 years ago we fucking fought our suppressors and kicked their fucking ass. Sure France was on our side but only cause they had an interest and a common enemy.

Fucking do something for yourselves or fucking suffer and stop begging like some common bums.

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18883261)

There is absolutely no wild life there. They have eaten everything. I think they are starting on the bed bugs now. It's amazing that common people won't rise up against these oppressive fucks. What does it take? Even the dumb ass camel jockeys have.

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 18883883)

They just launched another one. Seems like the first was a decoy.

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18884239)

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18884461)

On a side note, I have a Korean friend that thinks that it's hilarious that the term "Gook is seen as derogatory, apparently it's derived from "Han Gook", which simply means "Korean person" in Korea, and became part of the US vernacular after US troops started returning from Korea in the 1950s. They don't find it offensive at all.

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18884479)

Go around calling people gooks and see if they take offense to it. Guaranteed they do!

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18884644)

So you mean to tell me if a white guy goes to north korea he can start calling people gooks? I dont think so. Maybe if they are the same race I can understand. Kinda like black people calling each other the N word, then if a white guy says it hes racist?

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18884713)

Asking someone if they are Han Gook, vs calling them a Gook are two totally different things IMO. But hey whatever works!

Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 18885201)

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18884541)

Not Koreans in Korea, is my point.



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Originally Posted by Gabriel (Post 18885571)

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