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EddyTheDog 04-12-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18883618)
because only on gfy people still debate whether the earth is round.

kind of a metaphor for this place really.

Like I said in another thread - You make me laugh....

_Richard_ 04-12-2012 10:22 PM

record tempatures for this winter, right?

how much did that storm in texas cost? don't they always have tornados?

hopefully this all works out like it does in the movies, and the people denying the loudest are the first to go

mikesinner 04-12-2012 10:28 PM

Global warming deniers make me laugh.

papill0n 04-12-2012 10:38 PM

climate and weather are different

thats what most people who comment on climate change dont understand.

Its a fundamental problem that makes even trying to debate most people on the topic pointless.They simply dont know what they are talking about.

Sukiho 04-13-2012 05:22 AM

they were good pilots for sure but I dont see why their knowledge of climate science should be held in any higher regard then any other random profession

arock10 04-13-2012 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 18883547)
global warming is like a religion for the stupid

And religion is like religion for the stupid?

u-Bob 04-13-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Constant Phil (Post 18882861)
Correlation does not always equal causation. We may never know in our life time what the main antagonist of climate change is.

Correct. And exactly because correlation can easily be mistaken for causation, the fundamental method used by empirical scientists is "controlled testing". You take at least 2 identical objects, change 1 thing the first object is exposed to and leave everything the same for the second object. If something about the first object changes (for example, it melts or turns into a gas) and the second object doesn't change, than you can then form an hypothesis about how by altering the thing you altered, the first object was affected. You then go on and test your hypothesis.

As far as I know, we have only 1 planet Earth, so it's impossible to do any kind of controlled testing. Testing the effects of a rise in CO2 in a tiny greenhouse and then extrapolating that simply doesn't hold up given the complexity of our planet (the geological processes involved, the effect of the sun, the natural occurring shift in the Earth's axis,...).

suesheboy 04-13-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18883474)
interesting read to give the op's post some perspective.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...?newsfeed=true

As is usually the case in these climate contrarian letters, this one has no scientific content, and is written by individuals with not an ounce of climate science expertise, but who nevertheless have the audacity to tell climate scientists what they should think about climate science.

Thank you.

EVEN IF CARBON DID NOT EFFECT THE CLIMATE, CARBON IS CREATING ACIDIFICATION OF THE WATER AND POLLUTION IS EFFECTING THE HEALTH OF ALL LIVING CREATURES.

There is no logical reason to pollute if we do not need to. Without a healthy environment, there will be no life as we know it.

The same idiots complaining how we are "ruining the future of our children and grandchildren with the burden of debt" don't give a damn about the biodiversity and our future ability to survive on earth. Money or life? Fucking greedy bastards!

CyberHustler 04-13-2012 06:00 AM

Sounds like a perfectly logical excuse to not give a fuck about the air we breathe... water we drink... the planet that sustains us...

mikesinner 04-13-2012 06:05 AM

I hate science deniers and science bashing. Problem is most of Americans are scientifically illiterate.

PR_Glen 04-13-2012 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18882795)
People have known the world is round for thousands of years. :2 cents:

they were referring to it being common knowledge through out the world. despite your greek buddies the rest of the world was in the dark about it.

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 18884110)
Thank you.

EVEN IF CARBON DID NOT EFFECT THE CLIMATE, CARBON IS CREATING ACIDIFICATION OF THE WATER AND POLLUTION IS EFFECTING THE HEALTH OF ALL LIVING CREATURES.

There is no logical reason to pollute if we do not need to. Without a healthy environment, there will be no life as we know it.

The same idiots complaining how we are "ruining the future of our children and grandchildren with the burden of debt" don't give a damn about the biodiversity and our future ability to survive on earth. Money or life? Fucking greedy bastards!


hold on you just changed the channel on this... nobody in here is fucking pro pollution!!!

the argument is whether we are directly effecting the climate on our planet or not... jesus.. whats next? you going to talk about how we are wrong because we are pro punching kittens?

u-Bob 04-13-2012 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18884122)
Sounds like a perfectly logical excuse to not give a fuck about the air we breathe... water we drink... the planet that sustains us...

That's a big leap you're making. Do humans have an effect on the environment? Of course they do, just like every other living being has an effect on its surroundings. Should people be allowed to simply dump chemical waste in rivers or gas their neighbors by burning harmful stuff in their backyard? Of course not. But, those things we can observe, measure, record and do something about.

Does the climate change? Of course, just look at history. Climate change is a fact of life. Since this planet came to be, every aspect of it has constantly been changing. Continents drift, volcanoes erupt, what once was a fertile plane is now the Sahara desert, you used to be able to walk across the Bering street,...

To think we now suddenly know everything there is to know about this planet, to think we now suddenly understand everything about this very complex system we live in, to think we can somehow tinker with this complex system by constructing a special tax system is naive at best...

Phoenix 04-13-2012 06:20 AM

50 top scientists from nasa out of a job......

u-Bob 04-13-2012 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 18884128)
I hate science deniers and science bashing. Problem is most of Americans are scientifically illiterate.

To be a scientist is to be critical but open-minded. To be a scientist is to question everything, including what you already think you know.

To question the ideas and conclusions of other people (even if they are scientists) does not make one a science denier or basher.

EonBlue 04-13-2012 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18883474)
interesting read to give the op's post some perspective.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...?newsfeed=true

As is usually the case in these climate contrarian letters, this one has no scientific content, and is written by individuals with not an ounce of climate science expertise, but who nevertheless have the audacity to tell climate scientists what they should think about climate science.

On the flip side 99% of people who believe in all of the global warming alarm-ism do so because of a movie produced by a politician with not an ounce of climate science expertise.

And believe it or not there are actual climate scientists who disagree with the "consensus" on climate change theory.


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