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brassmonkey 04-11-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880219)
You will be very disappointed when truth comes out.
Now go grab some some Olde English and celebrate.

you seem to know more about the drink you can have my share.

Fetish Gimp 04-11-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18880178)
There IS record of the second ambulance being cancelled because the second person had no need for it. Zimmerman probably should have at least been checked out, but it seems he didn't require it.

Mind you, that still doesn't mean that Trayvon didn't attack him.

It might be that Trayvon jumped on Zimmerman and he defended himself before Trayvon did any real damage. But then that means the witnesses saying that Trayvon beat the shit out of Zimmerman are unreliable, which in turn makes his position even more precarious.

uno 04-11-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18879868)
There is also a batshit crazy Aryan Brotherhood and the big Cholos presence, who I suppose would back him up.

The Aryans wouldn't consider him white. :2 cents:

The jewish name also would not help with them.

NaughtyVisions 04-11-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18880216)
52's wtf is that?

I'm confused, too.

I thought it was Colt 45...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NFoEEtzlE_.../colt45web.jpg


:winkwink:

Just Alex 04-11-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18880224)
you seem to know more about the drink you can have my share.

Not really. Thats why I was wrong about Colt 52. Its actually Colt 45. We don't drink that shit and I don't think stores by my house care to sell it either.
Anyway, enjoy your Kwanza tonight. Im off to watch my Flyers.

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 18880233)
I'm confused, too.

I thought it was Colt 45...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NFoEEtzlE_.../colt45web.jpg


:winkwink:

oh man good times :)

uno 04-11-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18879950)
Here is an interesting take on this, and how the Media, in some cases, had completely lied about the circumstances of this case...

http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-i-called...inglepage=true

"On March 17, I thought I had it all figured out. I wrote a post on my blog in which I pronounced America?s most famous neighborhood watch captain guilty:


How naive that post now seems. The narrative created by the media at that time was one of an innocent life taken for no reason at all, by a much older, heavier, and racist man itching for a confrontation.

That was before we found out there was only one gunshot and no coup de grāce. That was before we found out that George Zimmerman had not deluged the local police with 46 paranoid 911 calls in one year, but 46 calls over a period of eight years, which isn?t unreasonable for a community watch volunteer. The media had either lied about how often he called, or purposefully compressed the timeline.

That was before we learned that Zimmerman didn?t know Martin?s race when he made the call, and that race didn?t play a roll in any of the 911 calls the local police had on file.

That was before we discovered that George Zimmerman wasn?t the 240-plus pound bruiser in the five-year-old picture the media used as much as possible, but was listed at a much smaller 170 pounds by none other than the New York Times. That?s a nominal 20 pounds heavier than a teen that stood four inches over him.

That was before we found out that two eyewitnesses placed Martin on top of Zimmerman as the aggressor, and that at least one of them claims it was Zimmerman crying for help.

That was before ABC News attempted to claim police surveillance video disproved Zimmerman?s claim of being injured in what may have been a purposeful deception. The very same news organization was forced to later admit the presence of two lacerations on the back of George Zimmerman?s skull consistent with his claim of self-defense. In the end, details of the beating Zimmerman suffered at Trayvon Martin?s hands were only given a brief mention in the local news.

That was before NBC News was forced to fire a senior producer for selectively editing audio of Zimmerman?s 911 call in a deliberate effort to make him sound racist.

And of course, almost no one knows that on the night he took Trayvon Martin?s life, George Zimmerman willingly consented to take a voice stress analyzer test, a kind of lie detector test used by the Sanford police. He passed it.

The narrative has changed in the wake of new details, eyewitnesses, and embarrassing retreats. The actual story may in fact have been a textbook example of the proper use of deadly force.

The revised narrative is that George Zimmerman wasn?t even actively volunteering as a neighborhood watchman, but was in the process of going to the store when he happened to see a hoodie-covered figure acting oddly in the rain, in a way that Zimmerman apparently interpreted as a burglar ?casing? the gated community. He called 911 and kept the dispatcher apprised of his current position as best he could, in order to try to bring the police to the scene so that they could talk with the suspicious figure. It wasn?t until partway through the call that Zimmerman was able to tell the dispatcher that he thought the suspect may be black, in a direct answer to the dispatcher?s question about the suspect?s race.

During the course of the 911 call, the dispatcher asks several times for an exact street address, which an apparently frustrated Zimmerman is unable to provide. At one point, Martin notices Zimmerman shadowing him, and disappears between buildings.

Zimmerman chooses to leave his vehicle, either to track Martin or get a street address of Martin?s current location for the responding officers. At this point, Zimmerman is no longer on the phone with the 911 operator. Trayvon Martin is allegedly on the phone with his girlfriend, right up until when the physical confrontation apparently takes place.

By piecing together the 911 call and the series of events as alleged by Martin?s still anonymous girlfriend, we can see that a man is following a teenager, and the teenager notices he is being followed. We see Zimmerman?s apparent frustration at being unable to get the police guided to the suspect ? his frustrated cry of ?these assholes always get away? ? and see two reasons Zimmerman would have left the car after first telling the dispatcher he didn?t want to because he didn?t know where Martin was at the time.

It is at this point that the confrontation between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman takes place. We have no living witnesses to the start of the confrontation, other than Mr. Zimmerman. He claims Trayvon Martin assaulted him by punching him in the face (breaking his nose), and then jumped on top of him and started pounding his head into the the pavement.

At this point, apparently two witnesses responded to cries for help. One witness, named ?John,? identified the man on the bottom wearing red (George Zimmerman) as the person crying for help in 911 calls as the other person (Trayvon Martin) was on top of him. ?John? moved to get a better view out another window when he heard the gunshot and then saw Martin on the ground.

A second eyewitness also identified George Zimmerman as the man on the ground crying for help.

Not one witness had a start-to-finish view of the confrontation, and even if they did, eyewitness accounts are notoriously inaccurate. But when the various aspects of the case are weaved together from what is publicly known, a more plausible and tighter narrative seems to coalesce.

Shortly after getting off the phone with the 911 dispatcher, George Zimmerman left his vehicle. He and Trayvon Martin engaged in some sort of a conversation, which is agreed upon (in a larger context) by both Martin?s girlfriend, who was on the phone with him at the time, and Zimmerman?s account.

At that point, the call between Martin and his girlfriend terminated, and her testimony is of no further value.

Zimmerman alleges that Martin punched him in the face, breaking his nose and knocking him down with one punch. Basic forensic details, such as the grass stains on Zimmerman?s back and the injuries to his face reported by police and the resulting swelling and bruising reported by the neighbor the next day, make this at least plausible.

Zimmerman claims that Martin then jumped on top of him and began bashing his head against the sidewalk, and he began crying for help. Again, this part of Zimmerman?s story is at least partially corroborated by the eyewitness testimony, police reports, the enhanced police department video that shows two substantial lacerations on the back of Zimmerman?s head, and the reported bandages and swelling the neighbor confirmed the next day.

Zimmerman claims that Martin then saw and went for his gun. There were no eyewitnesses to this portion of the confrontation, and the next eyewitness view (from ?John?) tells us what we already know: George Zimmerman fired a single shot from a 9mm pistol that hit Trayvon Martin, killing him. The rest of the actions from this point on are contained in police reports, but the confrontation was over, and Trayvon Martin lay dead or dying.

The Sanford police are being heavily condemned for mismanaging the investigation, but they did manage to do two things that may shed light on the whole story. They managed to get Zimmerman to the police station, where video surveillance confirmed his head injuries, and Zimmerman passed the voice stress analyzer they administered, which suggests he believes the story he gave to police.

When all these publicly known bits of evidence are combined, it suggests that a series of miscalculations and escalations by both men led to Trayvon Martin?s death.

George Zimmerman used questionable judgment in leaving his vehicle. But if the evidence and testimony publicly known are to be believed, it was an angry young Trayvon Martin who committed the first crime of the evening when he threw a punch that knocked George Zimmerman down. At this point, Trayvon Martin became the aggressor.

Eyewitnesses and forensics suggest that Martin continued his assault, escalating it to assault with a deadly weapon when he began trying to smash Zimmerman?s skull on the pavement. If this is accurate, and Zimmerman was on his back crying for help while Martin pressed his attack, then Zimmerman had reason to believe he was under the threat of serious injury, maiming, or death at the hands of Trayvon Martin.

At that moment, in reasonable fear for his life, and apparently after a struggle for his gun if Zimmerman?s lie detector-cleared testimony can be believed, he fired a single shot at Trayvon Martin.

Ultimately, the forensics the public has not seen may be the ultimate arbiter of truth. If the ballistic trajectory is consistent with Zimmerman?s story, then Trayvon Martin was killed in a textbook case of self-defense. Florida?s ?stand your ground? law is utterly immaterial and Zimmerman committed no crime whatsoever.

"

Interestingly, the "stand your ground" would be on Trayvon's side if this armed guy was following him and started a confrontation. :upsidedow

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880237)
Not really. Thats why I was wrong about Colt 52. Its actually Colt 45. We don't drink that shit and I don't think stores by my house care to sell it either.
Anyway, enjoy your Kwanza tonight. Im off to watch my Flyers.

:1orglaugh

bigluv 04-11-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18880061)
Then why are there people saying Zimmerman had no cuts or bruises on his head or knuckles or body either guys? How are these men in a brawl that is life threatening and not showing a sign? Someone had told me there was enhanced video showing Zimmerman's head, but I havent seen it so I'm asking you. They did cancel the second ambulance at the scene that night because Zimmerman didnt need it. I'm not eating cable news on this thing, so seriously dont know.

edit: Oh and by the way, it wasn't my word saying there would have been signs on the dead mans body and hands, it was the coroner dude.

A funeral home employee is not a fucking coroner.
If you want to judge his credibility for yourself, check this video:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2388141/
The idiot goes on to offer an opinion about zimmerman's supposed lack of injuries based on whatever news videos are available.

Doesn't seem like a reliable source to me.

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 03:35 PM

wonder if they found some camera footage.

Bladewire 04-11-2012 03:42 PM

So much effort to simply, finally, be charged. Amazing :action-sm

alextokyo 04-11-2012 03:43 PM

Zimmerman may be in custody, but at least that stupid little monkey is still dead.

Every cloud... :2 cents:

GFED 04-11-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 18880272)
So much effort to simply, finally, be charged. Amazing :action-sm

There's no doubt that Zimmerman has been in "custody" this whole time. He probably asked for it. It's not like he can go out in public without the fear of someone murdering him. I also believe that he asked for this "trial" to prove his innocence. We all know that you're guilty until proven innocent in this country.

Sadly the outcome of this trial won't change public opinion nor will Zimmerman ever be able to walk in public again without fearing his life. This is a big waste of time and money to give "closure" to Trayvon's family. Unfortunately the massed hordes will still want blood after Zimmerman is acquitted.

bronco67 04-11-2012 03:53 PM

Please black people, don't start cheering in the streets and destroying property because you're happy. It's a victory, but show some class.

Bladewire 04-11-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 18880284)
There's no doubt that Zimmerman has been in "custody" this whole time. He probably asked for it. It's not like he can go out in public without the fear of someone murdering him. I also believe that he asked for this "trial" to prove his innocence. We all know that you're guilty until proven innocent in this country.

Sadly the outcome of this trial won't change public opinion nor will Zimmerman ever be able to walk in public again without fearing his life. This is a big waste of time and money to give "closure" to Trayvon's family. Unfortunately the massed hordes will still want blood after Zimmerman is acquitted.

That all remains to be seen. I've never been a part of the criminal legal system so, for me, the Trayvon case, among other things, brought forth the knowledge that you can carry a gun, follow someone, confront them, shoot and kill them, and not be charged for anything right away.

It's not like Zimmerman hasn't been arrested and charged for the much smaller offenses of resisting officer with violence and battery of law enforcement officer. Those are 3rd degree felonies. They were only dropped and then waived because he entered an alcohol education program.

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 04:05 PM

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Rochard 04-11-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 18880042)
Ok, so then Zimmerman should have just let him pound his head into the ground until he ended up dead... Then it would just be another black kid hauled off to jail and the whole outcry would be here just the same. It's fucking moronic. The Zimmerman guy said not a single fucking word that could even be considered racist, and he only told the cop that he *thought* the kid was black... but not until AFTER the cop asked him.

If Zimmerman would have shot any other race than a black kid then there wouldn't be so much fucking attention on the case. End of story. Everyone wants to make this out to be some racism fueled hate crime when all the evidence we have available says that it's not.

I actually wish the kid he killed was white... then we'd get a real investigation that's not fueled by morons playing the race card...

There is no proof that the kid so much as looked at Zimmerman.

For me it has nothing to do with race. I could care less what color the kid was or what color Zimmerman is. You have a armed full grown man who was stalking an un-armed kid. There is no proof that the kid attacked him, and no proof that there was even a fight. So far as we know, this Zimmerman just shot him dead for no reason.

escorpio 04-11-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 18880284)
Unfortunately the massed hordes will still want blood after Zimmerman is acquitted.

Or at least some iPods, gold chains and new Air Jordans.

GFED 04-11-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18880349)
There is no proof that the kid so much as looked at Zimmerman.

For me it has nothing to do with race. I could care less what color the kid was or what color Zimmerman is. You have a armed full grown man who was stalking an un-armed kid. There is no proof that the kid attacked him, and no proof that there was even a fight. So far as we know, this Zimmerman just shot him dead for no reason.

i'm not sure if you're being serious or if you're trolling...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

escorpio 04-11-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18880349)
There is no proof that the kid so much as looked at Zimmerman.

For me it has nothing to do with race. I could care less what color the kid was or what color Zimmerman is. You have a armed full grown man who was stalking an un-armed kid. There is no proof that the kid attacked him, and no proof that there was even a fight. So far as we know, this Zimmerman just shot him dead for no reason.

You forgot to say "the kid was armed with Skittles!"

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18880354)
Or at least some iPods, gold chains and new Air Jordans.

its cheaper that a bunch of anchor babies :2 cents: 100 tossed salads

escorpio 04-11-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18880361)
its cheaper that a bunch of anchor babies :2 cents: 100 tossed salads

Have you got your looting list made up?

Just Alex 04-11-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18880361)
its cheaper that a bunch of anchor babies :2 cents: 100 tossed salads

I would take 100 anchor babies over 100 useless and jobless porch chimps any time. At least anchor babies will be getting jobs and become part of workforce one day.

Just Alex 04-11-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18880368)
Have you got your looting list made up?

Do they have too make it up? I thought thats what black kid gets for his 5th b-day. Oh wait, 5th is neighbor kid's bicycle, then the list.

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18880368)
Have you got your looting list made up?

what looting list? :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880373)
I would take 100 anchor babies over 100 useless and jobless porch chimps any time. At least anchor babies will be getting jobs and become part of workforce one day.

i guess you don't know the math it's way more than 100. its kind of like a egg pod 13-15 per female :1orglaugh

Tom_PM 04-11-2012 04:38 PM

This case is a big deal and it has nothing whatsoever to do with race. Let the media play in its own puddle about race for a minute.

Its going to hinge on Zimmermans word and thats IF he testifies which I doubt he would. Hes going to have to produce some kind of video evidence almost to justify the shooting I think. And he can probably thank his police force and/or DA for leaking every damaging thing to the media so far. Not a good way to go about criminal case.

eroticsexxx 04-11-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880373)
100 useless and jobless porch chimps any time.

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Just Alex 04-11-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18880384)
what looting list? :1orglaugh



i guess you don't know the math it's way more than 100. its kind of like a egg pod 13-15 per female :1orglaugh

At least they all have same father and know his name. How many of your family members been featured on maury povich so far ? :1orglaugh

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880474)
At least they all have same father and know his name. How many of your family members been featured on maury povich so far ? :1orglaugh

0 :1orglaugh i like pulling your chain

ill stop now

Just Alex 04-11-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18880497)
0 :1orglaugh i like pulling your chain

ill stop now

You aren't pulling any chains homie. You just don't like getting punched twice as hard! No hard feeling, you can't have the best of me :1orglaugh
Don't stop. Didn't you have me on ignore, board ninja? :1orglaugh

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880518)
You aren't pulling any chains homie. You just don't like getting punched twice as hard! No hard feeling, you can't have the best of me :1orglaugh
Don't stop. Didn't you have me on ignore, board ninja? :1orglaugh

i can't help it! your racist rants crack me up! everyday like clockwork your here the whole day talking about racist nonsense. :1orglaugh chatter on my gfy nazi :pimp

Young 04-11-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18880354)
Or at least some iPods, gold chains and new Air Jordans.

Wait....are we talking about black people? Or your people?

NaughtyVisions 04-11-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880518)
Don't stop. Didn't you have me on ignore, board ninja? :1orglaugh

http://rlv.zcache.com/ninja_on_board...5zvw5v_400.jpg

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 18880556)
Wait....are we talking about black people? Or your people?

black people

Just Alex 04-11-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18880547)
i can't help it! your racist rants crack me up! everyday like clockwork your here the whole day talking about racist nonsense. :1orglaugh chatter on my gfy nazi :pimp

Racist rants? No, I call it statistics. :1orglaugh

davethedope 04-11-2012 05:54 PM

"black people" and "white people" are so fucking annoying

Young 04-11-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18880564)
black people

I know who escorpio is talking about...I'm just well aware that he has a distaste for his own people (Mexicans) and wishes he was of European decent (can't lie, it's awesome being Portuguese sometimes). His inferiority complex causes him to displace his hate for himself over to black people. Like most west coast Mexicans tend to do.

escorpio, sorry bro. You are what you are! Maybe you should let others live in peace too.:thumbsup

Just Alex 04-11-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 18880587)
I know who escorpio is talking about...I'm just well aware that he has a distaste for his own people (Mexicans) and wishes he was of European decent (can't lie, it's awesome being Portuguese sometimes). His inferiority complex causes him to displace his hate for himself over to black people. Like most west coast Mexicans tend to do.

escorpio, sorry bro. You are what you are! Maybe you should let others live in peace too.:thumbsup

Always thought of Portuguese as western European gypsies. Armpit of Spain. Isn?t it like the poorest member of EU along with Greece and Eastern bloc countries.

brassmonkey 04-11-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880579)
Racist rants? No, I call it statistics. :1orglaugh

calling someone a monkey is statistics ??

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Young (Post 18880587)
I know who escorpio is talking about...I'm just well aware that he has a distaste for his own people (Mexicans) and wishes he was of European decent (can't lie, it's awesome being Portuguese sometimes). His inferiority complex causes him to displace his hate for himself over to black people. Like most west coast Mexicans tend to do.

escorpio, sorry bro. You are what you are! Maybe you should let others live in peace too.:thumbsup

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Young 04-11-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18880602)
Always thought of Portuguese as western European gypsies. Armpit of Spain. Isn’t it like the poorest member of EU along with Greece and Eastern bloc countries.

Born and raised here in the U.S. Extremely successful by every measurement. I drive a $110,000 car and can see the entire city I live in from my balcony. I can't relate to the Portuguese from Portugal. Their plights do not effect me. Being Portuguese and looking white just makes it easier to get by in the U.S. As sad as it is.

Escorpio being a Mexican on the other hand...

Your attempts to troll me will be unsuccessful. Sorry "Just Alex" of GFY. I have accomplished to much to let shit for brains like you get to me.


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