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Rochard 04-11-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18879093)
"no fly zone" WTF is that? What if China will declare the sky over your house as a "no fly zone" and will patrol it? Is that ok with you? I bet it wasn't ok with Iraqis.

If China decided to declare the air space above my house a no fly zone I would be thrilled to death. Between the Sacramento Airport and Beale Air Force Base, the air space above my house is pretty crowded. (Although I do have to admit I do get a little chub during the rare event one of their jets goes screaming over my house.) I am guessing the US government might have a few issues with China's no fly zone, however.

I'm not going to debate the no fly zones over Iraq. I was merely pointing out that during the Clinton administration, Iraq fired on the US on a daily basis and shot down our planes and we didn't do much about it.

just a punk 04-11-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18879168)
Iraq fired on the US on a daily basis and shot down our planes

So did the UK and Russia to the Nazi planes during WWII. The foreign aggressor must get a resistance. Don't you agree?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18879168)
I'm not going to debate the no fly zones over Iraq.

It's a wise decision.

Bladewire 04-11-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Makaveli (Post 18878397)
WW3 is about to pop off real soon.

This is what they want you to believe, it's an election year in the U.S. :winkwink:

Rochard 04-11-2012 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18879188)
So did the UK and Russia to the Nazi planes during WWII. The foreign aggressor must get a resistance. Don't you agree?

It's a wise decision.

You seem to be missing the argument here.

You said "So what Russia should do in such a situation? Stay aside a watch as its soldiers being killed? No one country in the world would act this way.".

And I'm trying to show you that in many cases restraint is used - and entire nations don't always go to war over a single incident. Fuck, Israel has attacked US Navy ships and killed dozens and also bombed Iran before, people died, and wars didn't start.

ninavain 04-11-2012 08:25 AM

the Banksters finance both sides of all wars..war is a good way to clean people off the planet and push forth the next wave of the New World Order...to cripple the current monetary system in order to introduce a new one and a 1 world government/army ( NATO) there will come a day, that all the money you have in your pocket and bank will not do a damn thing to save your life. This conflict is all planned out and ready to roll...and in this scenario, you will see a nuke dropped in your life time.

The greatest economic collapse in history is on the way

GEORGE H. BUSH IN SEPT 11TH 1991





the late Tim Russet gets too bold and ends up dead

just a punk 04-11-2012 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18879210)
You seem to be missing the argument here.

You said "So what Russia should do in such a situation? Stay aside a watch as its soldiers being killed? No one country in the world would act this way.".

No, I don't miss anything, but you do. Russian peace keepers came into Ossetia according to the agreement with Georgia. I.e. Georgia has officially invited them in 1992 and then attacked them in 2008.

As about the US planes in the Iraqi sky, so they were invaders (Iraq didn't asked them to patrol the sky). What do you think will be with the US plane it it decide to "patrol" the Chinese or Russian sky? I tell you the secret: the plane will be shot down and it will be right. The same will do the US air-defense to the Chinese or Russian plane, and it also will be right.

So please DO NOT compare the situation in Ossetia with situation in Iraq. The USA army was an aggressor, Russian peace keepers - weren't.

just a punk 04-11-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18879210)
Fuck, Israel has attacked US Navy ships and killed dozens

Excuse me??? :helpme

wehateporn 04-11-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18879235)
the Banksters finance both sides of all wars..war is a good way to clean people off the planet and push forth the next wave of the New World Order...to cripple the current monetary system in order to introduce a new one and a 1 world government/army ( NATO) there will come a day, that all the money you have in your pocket and bank will not do a damn thing to save your life. This conflict is all planned out and ready to roll...and in this scenario, you will see a nuke dropped in your life time.

Good post there ninavain! A false flag nuke would be the perfect way to get WWIII started, I would expect to see it happen in the US and perhaps one in the UK, to get the whole of the West into war mode

wehateporn 04-11-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18879250)
Excuse me??? :helpme

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Barry-xlovecam 04-11-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18879250)
Excuse me??? :helpme

USS Liberty incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

ajrocks 04-11-2012 08:46 AM

America can't pay for another war, it's just not going to happen. Bush wasted all the money on Iraq. The good times of invading and stealing old are over.

wehateporn 04-11-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18879103)
so Russia and the USA stare at each other again over top of Iran.
economy improves.
no banking elite wants a nuclear war..lol

The Bankers eventually want to put their UN in control of the planet, it would be a very slow process without a world war that is eventually broken up by the Banker UN

2012 04-11-2012 08:46 AM


ninavain 04-11-2012 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18879103)
so Russia and the USA stare at each other again over top of Iran.
economy improves.
no banking elite wants a nuclear war..lol

actually the banking elite DO want a nuclear war. That would be global changing. All you need is 1

ninavain 04-11-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18879300)
The Bankers eventually want to put their UN in control of the planet, it would be a very slow process without a world war that is eventually broken up by the Banker UN

:thumbsup:thumbsup

directfiesta 04-11-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18879001)
The United States did it for years as Iraq fired on US planes patrolling the no fly zone.

Pssstttttttt : The other way around ... USA/Brit were violating Iraqi airspace ...
Let's not get again in the ' no-fly zone ' illegality .... :2 cents:

seeandsee 04-11-2012 09:32 AM

Its plan, and we cant change nothing... they want oil...

sperbonzo 04-11-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 18878126)

I'm so proud of my people!!

Look at these numbers!

Christianity 2,039 million 32%
Islam 1,570 million 22%
Hinduism 950 million 13%
No religion 700 million 12%
Chinese folk religion 390 million 6%
Buddhism 350 - 1,600 million (2) 6%
Tribal Religions, 232 million 4%
Atheists 150 million 2%
New religions. 103 million 2%
Sikhism 23.8 million <1%
Judaism 14.5 million <1%


And yet somehow, we Jews RULE THE WORLD!!!! WooHoooooooo!


Oh yeah baby! We ROCK!!! You guys all have us outnumbered by 99.75% of the population, but WE JEWS CONTROL YOU!!



Sorry, I need to get back to my weekly "where do we incite the next riot and then blame it on sports fans" meeting!







.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh





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just a punk 04-11-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18879292)

Oh, shit happens.

sperbonzo 04-11-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18879427)
I'm so proud of my people!!

Look at these numbers!

Christianity 2,039 million 32%
Islam 1,570 million 22%
Hinduism 950 million 13%
No religion 700 million 12%
Chinese folk religion 390 million 6%
Buddhism 350 - 1,600 million (2) 6%
Tribal Religions, 232 million 4%
Atheists 150 million 2%
New religions. 103 million 2%
Sikhism 23.8 million <1%
Judaism 14.5 million <1%


And yet somehow, we Jews RULE THE WORLD!!!! WooHoooooooo!


Oh yeah baby! We ROCK!!! You guys all have us outnumbered by 99.75% of the population, but WE JEWS CONTROL YOU!!



Sorry, I need to get back to my weekly "where do we incite the next riot and then blame it on sports fans" meeting!







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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh





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(seriously though, the anti-semitism in Europe and on the left, is getting really out of control again... The Furhrer would be so pleased!) :Oh crap:helpme




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ninavain 04-11-2012 10:30 AM

MORE THIS SHIT IS REAL http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpre...lance-vessels/

DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism, Security
http://www.debka.com/article/21909/

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-e...-gulf-1.423557
U.S. deploys second aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf

sandman! 04-11-2012 10:47 AM

yea after the cold war ended there was a few years where russian was pretty fucked up and i could see the us doing that.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18878993)
I don't have any links to anything, but I just finished reading a book about Russian submarines during the cold war. The end of the book discussed how the US was funding nuclear scientists, including salaries and housing, in order to support them and prevent them from working for terrorists. The amount of support mentioned seemed to be a lot more than just the US paying to dismantle old nukes.


Bladewire 04-11-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18878083)
WASHINGTON – The Russian military anticipates that an attack will occur on Iran by the summer and has developed an action plan to move Russian troops through neighboring Georgia to stage in Armenia, which borders on the Islamic republic, according to informed Russian sources.

http://www.businessinsider.com/russi...certain-2012-4

I've met some really cool Russians in my life and this sucks, our countries always going against eachother like this is stupid and fewer and fewer of us fall for it as time goes on :2 cents:

just a punk 04-11-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 18879652)
I've met some really cool Russians in my life and this sucks, our countries always going against eachother like this is stupid and fewer and fewer of us fall for it as time goes on :2 cents:

I know a lot of good Americans too. As a Russian I have no anger against American people and I haven't felt any anger from Americans against myself when I've been there. I have many good buddies in the USA and I don't consider Americans as enemies. However, I do consider as an enemy the US government which is being ruled by Israeli lobby. To be fair, I feel the same hostility to the Russian government too. The politicians are using us like pawns in their dirty games.

I'm for a Global World without nationalities and puppet-master "elite" clans. :2 cents:

halfpint 04-11-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18879683)
I know a lot of good Americans too. As a Russian I have no anger against American people and I haven't felt any anger from Americans against myself when I've been there. I have many good buddies in the USA and I don't consider Americans as enemies. However, I do consider as an enemy the US government which is being ruled by Israeli lobby. To be fair, I feel the same hostility to the Russian government too. The politicians are using us like pawns in their dirty games.

I'm for a Global World without nationalities and puppet-master "elite" clans. :2 cents:

+ 1 :thumbsup


BTW There wont be a WW3 anytime soon either, the US, China, Russia ect dont want war and have said it many times, its all scare mongering as its been for years. :2 cents:

directfiesta 04-11-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18879562)
(seriously though, the anti-semitism in Europe and on the left, is getting really out of control again... The Furhrer would be so pleased!) :Oh crap:helpme




.

.. on the left ... You guys are so funny with your 2 dimension vision ...

Here is the right ( Tea Party ) :

-A poster inviting people to a tea party rally which depicts tax money disappearing into a funnel with a Jewish Star of David on it

http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2009...-semitism.html

- A protest sign showing piles of the dead bodies of Holocaust victims, labeled "National Socialist Healthcare"

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...olocaust-sign/

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...sel-tea-party/

- Another protest sign stating "Obama takes his orders from the Rothschilds"

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...tea-party.html

- A note left by a tea party protester in which the writer called Rep. Anthony Weiner "Schlomo Weiner"

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...tea-party.html

- Another note written by a tea party protester addressed to Rahm Emanuel, signed with a swastika

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...tea-party.html

- white supremacist groups being allowed to distribute literature at tea party events

http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/Wh...ea_Parties.htm

- Tea party-distributed emails in which Jewish Texas State Rep. Joe Straus is attacked because he is not Christian

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...a-antisemitic/

and more discussions :

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennt...rty_signs.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...504566_pf.html

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/20556...-israel-hater/


:warning

Rochard 04-11-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18879365)
Pssstttttttt : The other way around ... USA/Brit were violating Iraqi airspace ...
Let's not get again in the ' no-fly zone ' illegality .... :2 cents:

Let's get into it.

How was it illegal? Basically, Iraq got bitch smacked by the US military (and others). When I say "bitch smacked" I mean "they got pummeled into the ground so quickly it was a huge embarrassment". At this point, the US could have dictated any terms it wanted to. The United States could have (and perhaps should have) disarmed the entire country. It's not like it hasn't been done before in history (namely with Germany).

Once you get to the point where bullets are flying, International law goes right out the fucking window.

sperbonzo 04-11-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18879722)
.. on the left ... You guys are so funny with your 2 dimension vision ...

Here is the right ( Tea Party ) :

-A poster inviting people to a tea party rally which depicts tax money disappearing into a funnel with a Jewish Star of David on it

http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2009...-semitism.html

- A protest sign showing piles of the dead bodies of Holocaust victims, labeled "National Socialist Healthcare"

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...olocaust-sign/

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...sel-tea-party/

- Another protest sign stating "Obama takes his orders from the Rothschilds"

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...tea-party.html

- A note left by a tea party protester in which the writer called Rep. Anthony Weiner "Schlomo Weiner"

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...tea-party.html

- Another note written by a tea party protester addressed to Rahm Emanuel, signed with a swastika

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/...tea-party.html

- white supremacist groups being allowed to distribute literature at tea party events

http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/Wh...ea_Parties.htm

- Tea party-distributed emails in which Jewish Texas State Rep. Joe Straus is attacked because he is not Christian

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...a-antisemitic/

and more discussions :

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennt...rty_signs.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...504566_pf.html

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/20556...-israel-hater/


:warning


Personally I think the right is screwed also... they are both trying to grow government!

But I have been to many tea party rallies personally, (as a libertarian), both in South Florida and in D.C. and I've never seen any anti-semetic slogans, and actually heard quite a few pro-israel speeches, so I've never seen what you are aledging.

In looking at your links,

The first one doesn't show a picture, just a graphic. Why not a photo showing it being held at a tea party rally?

The second one is not anti Jews, it actually is anti national health care, and is comparing it to the holocaust, which is stupid, but not anti Jewish.

The posts about what some people supposedly said, or notes that were supposedly written would do better with some kind of video evidence, (just like the congressmen that were supposedly spit on and called the "N" word, and none of the dozens of videos of them walking through the rally showed that happening).

The next post about the KKK planning to attend Tea Party rallies is not the fault of the other people there, just like the communist party members that show up at Occupy rallies are not the Occupy organizers fault.

The one with the emails seems pretty damning, but I had to laugh about the reference to contributing to Glenn Beck, since Glenn Beck is such a big Israel supporter! LOL

The rest are just discussions based on the assumptions based on things like those posed by the prior links.





Having said all that, I wouldn't be surprised by ANY direction that anti-semitism is coming from these days.



.:2 cents:

directfiesta 04-11-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18879809)
Let's get into it.

How was it illegal? Basically, Iraq got bitch smacked by the US military (and others). When I say "bitch smacked" I mean "they got pummeled into the ground so quickly it was a huge embarrassment". At this point, the US could have dictated any terms it wanted to. The United States could have (and perhaps should have) disarmed the entire country. It's not like it hasn't been done before in history (namely with Germany).

Once you get to the point where bullets are flying, International law goes right out the fucking window.

That is all bla, bla, bla ... There were no UN resolution for this .. and it is not the US that ' bitch slapped ' Iraq.. but a coalition ( funny how you use that only when convenient ). In fact, the Iraq first war cost near to nothing to the USA , Japan picking up most of the bill .... followed by S.A.

But lets keep the fantasy in your head ....

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/01/marvel1.jpg

Rochard 04-11-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18879825)
That is all bla, bla, bla ... There were no UN resolution for this .. and it is not the US that ' bitch slapped ' Iraq.. but a coalition ( funny how you use that only when convenient ). In fact, the Iraq first war cost near to nothing to the USA , Japan picking up most of the bill .... followed by S.A.

But lets keep the fantasy in your head ....

Who needs a UN resolution? No one needs a US resolution to do anything. You think Israel is going to wait for permission to bomb Iran?

It wasn't the US that bitch smacked Iraq? Really? The US had just under 700k troops involved. The second largest was Saudi Arabia, which had 100k. The UK had 45k.


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