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lmao, I see the media got you too choker
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i will do exactly nothing to prepare me for anything of this nonsenseComment
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As i said, youve never spent weeks without power have you?
Ever shit in a bucket for days because the city sewer system is on electric systems?
I have.
you guys can sit and talk on gfy but fact is if anything really happened you guys will not be prepepared if you are collecting coins and tyvek suits. I promise you.
and thats from someone who understands what cities look like with no power grid. and that only stretched a few states imagine entire nation, i bet you guys cant, because youve never even seen the tip of the ice berg.
the nation couldnt even handle hurricane katrina and the power failures it brought, you thin they can handle chernobyl in america with some coins and a sack of tyvek suits? LOL
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i spent 6 months of 14 hour days helping clean the oil spill. and also moved back from california to new orleans after katrina to help my family who lost multiple homes and my grandmother died after the storm. more than one person in m family lost everything in katrina, whole house washed away... in multiple states. fam in mississippi lost home and my folks here in new orleans did too.
yes, i speak from experience while people on gfy sit and yap.
theres a big difference between katrina and the oil spill though, perhaps wikipedia can help you since you clearly dont know what you are even referring to.Last edited by Fletch XXX; 04-08-2012, 04:11 AM.
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Correct me if I am wrong, from reading about the big storm last month, it was strong enough to have caused serious satelite damage, power grid outages, and lots of permanent damage to electronics. From what I have read the only thing that saved our asses was the earths tilt was such that the solar flare hit the earths magnetic field at the perfect angle to deflect it. If the earth's tilt had been the opposite of what it was we would be in a world of shit right now. But like I said, correct me if I am wrong about this. I do know that NASA was sending out serious warnings right before it hit us last month.ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466
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Every man dies. Not every man truely lives.Comment
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People want to believe in the end game disaster -- it justifies their basic belief.
But seriously, surviving in a zombie like existence has very limited appeal.
I still remember the air raid drills in the 1960's at school. We huddled in the school's basement under the asbestos wrapped heating ducts practicing for the Soviet nuclear attack that never came -- in the end, wasted effort for the event that would destroy our world as we knew it -- mental masturbation.Comment
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As far as an actual threat, intense solar flares make cell phone reception worse because radio receivers work on millions of a volt. The power grid runs on thousands of volts. The worst solar flair even wouldn't be detectable on the power grid. Lightening is billions of times stronger. Want to prepare for solar flares? Get a land line phone. Done.For historical display only. This information is not current:
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Dude, every federal agency, every expert on power grids says the opposite. So you know something they don't? And not to mention that in the last 50 years strong solar flares HAVE knocked out power grids all over the earth. So I guess all those news stories and people without power because of solar flares was a big conspiracy or something? Um, OkLast edited by Choker; 04-08-2012, 06:55 AM.ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466
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They will barter with everything they can get their hands on.
However, most people won't have anything at all, as you can see from the people LOLing in this thread. So get your weapons and take from them whatever you want. No need to barter with those types. In the grand scheme of things the weak are meant to die anyway.
Everything was bartered in Argentina. Weapons, jewelry, coins, food, ammo, medicine, sex, you name it. No reason to think the USA would be any different.
We are getting a compost toilet very soon. No need to shit in a bucket.
Because the nation is BROKE and in debt to the point of no return. Not because NASA is worthless.
They thought the same thing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'm sure.
The USA was very close to all out war with the Soviets during the Cuban missile crises. However, students hiding under desks and in the basements would not have saved them from such a catastrophic event. And by some freak chance it did, the radiation would have killed you later. So in that aspect, it was indeed a total waste of time. But the act of trying to prepare for something is not.
Fact of the matter is, people never know when a disaster is going to happen or the size of it. Maybe never. Maybe in 2 minutes after I make this post. It may be an earthquake, a power outage that lasts for a few days (or weeks), a currency collapse, a tornado, or something more sinister and destructive. Historically it has happened over and over and over again around the world, so it's not something that should be blown off so easily. Shit happens. Nothing wrong with being a little prepared for it.
However, the one thing everyone can count on, including the most prepared prepper, is it will never play out the way you planned. But even if you're just a little prepared, it will be better than not being prepared at all and having to be totally dependent on others.Comment
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Choker, you are fucking redneck idiot. Typical American white trash.Comment
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its getting caught in a gamma ray burst that you really gotta worry about. :D
the threat of major damage to the electricity grid from solar flares is real, unlikely that will result in some sort of apocalyptic situation though.Comment
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Cognitive Dissonance and the End of the World
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...harold-camping
"The more someone acts on behalf of a belief (and even suffers for it), the more and more that belief becomes important to them. People think, "I have done so much for this belief. If it weren't important I wouldn't have done that." This is a basic form of dissonance reduction."
Apparently there's a lot of self help information out there for people with end of the world fears and doomsday phobia.
You guys could always start a doomsday/end of the world cult and profit from that?Last edited by anexsia; 04-08-2012, 07:09 AM.Comment
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Gamma ray would be a game over thing. No need to worry about a situation that you can't do anything about. Didn't the miltitary release a report stating that it only takes a 2 megaton nuke 250 miles above the center of the US to fry the entire US grid? The Russian nuclear threat is far from over.ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466
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Perhaps your country is better prepared at a federal level to deal with such issues, thus no real need to alert people of any possible danger. It is also possible that where you are located geographically may not be an issue for such flares. Many nations did alert their people during the last big flares. We even had alerts here. My guess (totally uneducated guess) is that it has to do with where you are during the time they will hit.Comment
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"End of the world" fears I'll give you. But being prepared for situations that can and probably will eventually should be perfectly normal. This is like saying an ambulance crew needs help because they are prepared to help someone in the event of an accident.
I'm starting to think no one here has ever taken a world history class. Because if you have, most of you wouldn't be saying some of the stuff you are saying.Comment
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i just don't believe in any of those scare tactics
not once in my life anything of that really happened and IF i am ever unlucky enough to be proven wrong, i have at least not wasted my time before worrying about eventualities
of course there's nothing wrong when living in Florida to prepare for a hurricane, don't get me wrong
but preparing for solar flares, civil war, zombie attacks or the end of the world in 2012 is just plain nonsense.Comment
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
what would happen if the 1859 event happened today
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...event-science/
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just turn your house in to a big faraday's cageComment
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Are you so sure you want to survive in a post apocalyptic world?
If you want to crawl out of your hole into world of abject misery, OK -- I don't even consider that as a realistic possibility.
As for a short term; weeks, a month or two I have that covered. Canned food, medications, water and ammo but living that way would be for shit. Once the medication ran out I would be dead in short time anyway so looting becomes a realistic possibility and with that realistic violence.
So, if you think you would have a safe life living from your stored horde of supplies think again -- you would spend most of your time defending your horded pile. So, with multitudes of armed scavengers wandering about -- do you really think you would be able kill them all Cowboy?
But there is plenty of profiteering to be had selling survival in the face of doom. I remember how the world would be destroyed when all the planets lined up -- nothing happened. Hopefully this will also be the case of the current dire predictions ... "They" haven't been right yet.
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Scared people spend money. It's a known fact. If you are making money selling to scared people Choker then i guess that's for choice. Trying to make people afraid however isn't cool.
People are afraid of the WRONG THINGS. Every day we are presented with scary news items on TV and scary headlines simple because they attract viewers and sell.
The sunspot cycle repeats roughly every 11 years. That means every 11 years the earth is more likely to be hit high energy Solar Mass Ejections. CME's do not hurt people and do not destroy power grids. They can disrupt them and damage sensitive components which can cause power failures, but thats about it. We know ahead of time when CME's are coming thanks to Nasa and http://www.spaceweather.com/. Whenever they put out a PR that says "CME on the way, again", headline writes go nuts.
Idiots buy guns, bullets and endless survival gear and worthless coins because they are afraid that the end of the world is right around the corner. Instead of thinking even just a little, they instead choose the belief EVERYTHING that is told to them and fear the wrong things. They are convinced that the end of the world is coming the day after tomorrow.
The reality is that people are much more likely to get hurt or killed just driving to the supermarket, or walking down the stairs. The same idiots who are preparing for the end of the world so they can live through the apocalypse think nothing about smoking cigarettes and eating fat-filled potato chips. It's insane.Comment
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This "end of the world" stuff is not exactly new -- movies have been made mocking it ...
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Choker.. may I ask how you are selling the silver? ( through third party service, direct through your own site etc? ) We bought a sizable number of 1oz silver bars from 1992 - 2005 & might be interested in selling some of it, if there is a profit to be made above and beyond just selling it at it's current value to local precious metal merchants.
and my humble opinion to your original question... yes... monetize it.. the market is right.Comment
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They would only go for specific target areas where there are either people annoyingly living on top of desired resources e.g Africa or places where it's going to be difficult to overthrow the current control mechanisms.
You are right that there are some things the Bankers would never want to risk losingLast edited by wehateporn; 04-08-2012, 02:36 PM.Comment
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Before an earthquake, forces build up underground, that is why an earthquake becomes due or overdue. Pandemics have no such forces building up, so we cannot say one is due. In the years just before the Swine Flu Pandemic there was a lot of planning going on around the world in preparation, there was too much foreknowledge, even the likes of IBM sent out there pandemic plan just a couple of years before. Pandemics are now a fig leaf for another agenda.Comment
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Mark makes a good point about the risk of driving. I know adults who'll happily scream away (at high pitch) about petty issues to the driver of their car on a motorway, but are completely terrified of flying on a large passenger jet (only since they watched Lost and Final Destination).
Also there was someone I knew who was really bad at crossing roads, I'd witnessed several near-misses. Sometimes I'd remind them "Be careful crossing the roads dude!"...this advice was never accepted, nor by those around me "Why are you telling him that?"Last edited by wehateporn; 04-08-2012, 04:36 PM.Comment
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We're talking about capabilities. It has been used here and there, with lives lost, but over the next 20 years you'll see far worse. It's all going to be tied in with the Climate Change (i.e. global taxes) and Agenda 21 (we control where you can live) Banker scams. "The weather is out of control because of global warming, so you must pay us carbon taxes. The weather is so bad in certain locations that you can no longer live there, you have to live over here where it's safe!Last edited by wehateporn; 04-08-2012, 04:45 PM.Comment
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Look into Agenda 21 some time, plenty to read (to put most off), there's a bottomless pit of money funding it "Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced"
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"Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level."
- excerpt, UN Agenda 21Last edited by wehateporn; 04-08-2012, 05:04 PM.Comment
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more john birch society nonsense.
http://www.treehugger.com/environmen...oogey-man.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society
The society opposed aspects of the 1960s civil rights movement because it claimed the movement had communists in important positions. In the latter half of 1965, the JBS produced a flyer titled ?What?s Wrong With Civil Rights?,? which was used as a newspaper advertisement
One of the founding members[22][23][24] was Fred Koch,[25] founder of Koch Industries, one of the largest private corporations in America.[26] Another was Revilo P. Oliver, a University of Illinois professor who later severed his relationship with the society and helped found the Neo-Nazi organization The National Alliance.
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