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DamianJ 04-11-2012 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18878714)
Wait ! (I have just re-read your post a few times...)

But... Isn't that exactly what you did, though???

Are you just realising Paul lies and posts utter contradictory bullshit to goad responses out of people?

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18878723)
Are you just realising Paul lies and posts utter contradictory bullshit to goad responses out of people?

Dont be so silly, you silly sausage you!

Paul is a VERY respected person in this industry - Much more than you yourself are!

I want to learn from Paul - I listen - I read - I (Unlike you) DONT Troll...

But when Paul says something I dont understand, I feel I need to question him - I NEED to understand..

PS: I'm travelling to Brighton on Friday, via your town, so shall I stop my MX5, so as we can both have a quick bum?

Serious question?

DamianJ 04-11-2012 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18878727)
Dont be so silly, you silly sausage you!

Paul is a VERY respected person in this industry - Much more than you yourself are!

I want to learn from Paul - I listen - I read - I (Unlike you) DONT Troll...

But when Paul says something I dont understand, I feel I need to question him - I NEED to understand..

All you need to understand is that no hotel, ever in the existence of mankind has ever said to anyone "How much do you want to pay" and Paul is just trolling.

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18878727)
PS: I'm travelling to Brighton on Friday, via your town, so shall I stop my MX5, so as we can both have a quick bum?

Serious question?

Sadly I'm in London on Friday, having a meeting with magician David Britland (who created The Real Hustle and writes a great deal for Derren Brown) to discuss some marketing work I'm doing on a project for him.

I can leave a key under the mat and you can let yourself in for a shit though?

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18878734)

I can leave a key under the mat and you can let yourself in for a shit though?

OR... I could pop in on the way back? After visiting Gary n Nat on the 16th???

Needs as must, etc....

Paul Markham 04-11-2012 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18878714)
Wait ! (I have just re-read your post a few times...)

But... Isn't that exactly what you did, though???

I qualified why I did it and in this situation it was right.

This situation was purely to find out what this guy thought it could be shot for. I've had the same situation at shows where people wanted me to shoot something that wasn't just your normal ATK level of porn, Stuff that's churned out for a price. Well it used to be.

For instance, Perfect Gonzo or Party Hardcore. To shoot this type of porn costs money. PG around $1,000+ a scene, PH anything around $25,000 a scene. The person asking obviously wanted something to match what he had seen. An obvious question would be "What's your budget?"

He's set out his requirements, so I can ask his budget and cut the conversation short or take him to the lounge to sit down ans sell to him what we can do for him.

Damian is a cut and paste merchant. The art of marketing and selling isn't copying the basic guidelines. It's adapting them to the individual needs.

Damian's ideas are to take a picture of me with a gun to a dogs head and some text. My customers are repeat buyers, they only need to know what the offer is or the new content. Same as going to see an editor. He knew what we shot and all he needed to see was a few pics of the girl. No selling at all once he knew us and the same should be applied to emailing ex members. If you did a good job in the first place. All you need to do is remind him you're still around and have some new content for him.

DamianJ 04-11-2012 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18878756)
Damian's ideas are to take a picture of me with a gun to a dogs head and some text. My customers are repeat buyers, they only need to know what the offer is or the new content. Same as going to see an editor. He knew what we shot and all he needed to see was a few pics of the girl. No selling at all once he knew us and the same should be applied to emailing ex members. If you did a good job in the first place. All you need to do is remind him you're still around and have some new content for him.

Split test one of the half dozen ideas I gave you with your badly designed, badly written amateur email and if mine gets less opens and clicks I will cut my cock off live on webcam.

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18878756)
I qualified why I did it and in this situation it was right.

Nahh... Thats cool... I just thought that you had spent most of the tread, explaining that YOU were a salesman...

My bad...

Paul Markham 04-11-2012 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18878764)
Nahh... Thats cool... I just thought that you had spent most of the tread, explaining that YOU were a salesman...

My bad...

Once a salesman, always a salesman. :1orglaugh

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18878734)
Sadly I'm in London on Friday, having a meeting with magician David Britland (who created The Real Hustle and writes a great deal for Derren Brown) to discuss some marketing work I'm doing on a project for him.

So, in otherwords, you consider THAT to be a priority over some 'Up-The-Bum-Fun' between us?

Well FUCK YOU (ANALY) !!!!11111oneoneone

Thats THE Last chance YOU shall get to suck my todger.. !

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18878787)
Once a salesman, always a salesman. :1orglaugh

I Still dont understand Paul - Seriously - I've never trolled your threads. I have had breakfast with you, and we have exchanged emails...

I WANT to learn from you... So please dont speak in riddles?

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18878734)
All you need to understand is that no hotel, ever in the existence of mankind has ever said to anyone "How much do you want to pay"...

Can you PROVE this?

Or are you just pointlessly TROLLING again?

Please give a link to you assertion.

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18878831)
Can you PROVE this?

Or are you just pointlessly TROLLING again?

Please give a link to you assertion.

I DEMAND that you do so RIGHT NOW!!!

Proof Or BAN !

etc...

DamianJ 04-11-2012 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18878756)
Damian is a cut and paste merchant. The art of marketing and selling isn't copying the basic guidelines. It's adapting them to the individual needs.

Post proof that I steal ideas or be banned. Again.

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18878836)
Post proof that I steal ideas or be banned. Again.

YUP... Me Myself and I etc....

DamianJ 04-11-2012 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18878831)
Can you PROVE this?

Or are you just pointlessly TROLLING again?

Please give a link to you assertion.

Post proof I am trolling.

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 05:04 AM

I'm eating my dinner... ???

DamianJ 04-11-2012 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18878843)
I'm eating my dinner... ???

Post proof or be banned.

Only common people or northerners eat dinner at lunchtime. CLUE, it's called LUNCHtime because it's the TIME you eat LUNCH!

CurrentlySober 04-11-2012 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18878847)
Post proof or be banned.

Fuck YOU gay boy!!! BUTT FUCK (as am I....)

http://i.imgur.com/VlZ4X.jpg

WOOT WOOT!

Now go after Markham ! *NOT ME lol


































* = "I'm still gonna fuck yah anyway... (HENCE THE DINNER PIC) So dont worry....

Cherry7 04-11-2012 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18878847)
Post proof or be banned.

Only common people or northerners eat dinner at lunchtime. CLUE, it's called LUNCHtime because it's the TIME you eat LUNCH!

Why did we have dinner ladies at school and not lunch ladies? At Eton they have lunch ladies?

ottopottomouse 04-11-2012 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18878884)
At Eton they have lunch ladies?

Pantry and Dining Room Assistants, serving luncheon.

DamianJ 04-11-2012 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 18878929)
Pantry and Dining Room Assistants, serving luncheon.

He wouldn't know, he went to the local socialist school, they had to grow cook and serve each other's lunch in a beautiful harmonic relationship where no women were exploited to serve food in a menial way. Comrade.

Cherry7 04-11-2012 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18878934)
He wouldn't know, he went to the local socialist school, they had to grow cook and serve each other's lunch in a beautiful harmonic relationship where no women were exploited to serve food in a menial way. Comrade.

If only that was true, I went to a grotty Comprehensive that was a Grammar school, where the food was tasteless crap, like mince meat poured onto the plate with mash and boiled carrots....


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