Verotel VS CCBill A-B Test

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 2
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous 1 2 template Next
  • MikeFlirt
    Registered User
    • Jul 2010
    • 42
    #1

    Verotel VS CCBill A-B Test

    Hello!

    I'm Mike from The Art of Blowjob, the lucky guy who gets all of those blowjobs. I know, I know!

    I just wanted to share with you that we've been doing a lot of A-B testing and taking a good hard look at our stats and we've come up with a pretty great system for having great conversions. Hard work pays off!

    We're finishing up our CCBill affiliate area, but we've also been getting really incredible sales with Verotel, so we'd love for you to give it a try. You can send me an e-mail if you'd like to see for yourself. I'd love to help you make money while we share our beautiful porn. The Art of Blowjob is a great seller and all our little tweaks have only gone to show that!

    Mike
    Content Producer and affiliates manager for
    http://theartofblowjob.com/


    Messenger : [email protected] I don't use ICQ
    Tags: None
    • SwirlsGirl
      So Fucking Banned
      • Feb 2006
      • 2067
      #2
      Hey Mike Flirt, great idea, and thanks for sharing your results...

      just curious to know if I am reading the stats correctly...your stats are telling me that you made 2 1/2 the conversions with verotel then you did with other biller?

      Or in other words if you make $1500.00 with 600 visitors with one biller....that you could very well make $3000.00 with another biller same traffic??

      Is there a problem with my reasoning or assesment here?

      Thanks

        Comment

        • candyflip
          Carpe Visio
          • Jul 2002
          • 43069
          #3
          You leave lots of money on the table if CCBill is your only option.

          This pretty much verifies that.

          Spend you some brain.
          Email Me

            Comment

            • SwirlsGirl
              So Fucking Banned
              • Feb 2006
              • 2067
              #4
              Originally posted by candyflip
              You leave lots of money on the table if CCBill is your only option.

              This pretty much verifies that.

              What secret or dirty trick is verotel using to give their customers 2 and one half times more the monies?

                Comment

                • DWB
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 31779
                  #5
                  Did you send the same amount of traffic to both billers?

                  If so, I am blown away that Verotel outperformed CCbill by that much. That would speak volumes of the current state of CCbill if it's true.

                    Comment

                    • MikeFlirt
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 42
                      #6
                      Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                      What secret or dirty trick is verotel using to give their customers 2 and one half times more the monies?
                      I have no clue at all, and the charge back and credit is really low
                      Mike
                      Content Producer and affiliates manager for
                      http://theartofblowjob.com/


                      Messenger : [email protected] I don't use ICQ

                        Comment

                        • porno jew
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 10166
                          #7
                          interesting. thanks for the share.

                            Comment

                            • MikeFlirt
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 42
                              #8
                              Originally posted by DWB
                              Did you send the same amount of traffic to both billers?

                              If so, I am blown away that Verotel outperformed CCbill by that much. That would speak volumes of the current state of CCbill if it's true.
                              Almost 598 for Verotel and 591 For CCBill
                              Mike
                              Content Producer and affiliates manager for
                              http://theartofblowjob.com/


                              Messenger : [email protected] I don't use ICQ

                                Comment

                                • Socks
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 8475
                                  #9
                                  If CCBill is so terrible, why is it that many of the world's biggest sites use them exclusively? If I know anything about rich people is that they usually take care of their nickels, so why would Met Art, FTV Girls, X-Art, etc use CCBill as their ONLY biller, if there was even a chance of them losing mountains of money to do so?

                                    Comment

                                    • MikeFlirt
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jul 2010
                                      • 42
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Socks
                                      If CCBill is so terrible, why is it that many of the world's biggest sites use them exclusively?
                                      Again I have no clue maybe it's like that for our sites only, I was curious if any other webmaster have made the same test.
                                      Mike
                                      Content Producer and affiliates manager for
                                      http://theartofblowjob.com/


                                      Messenger : [email protected] I don't use ICQ

                                        Comment

                                        • bean-aid
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jun 2011
                                          • 16493
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by MikeFlirt
                                          Almost 598 for Verotel and 591 For CCBill
                                          That must be some really targeted traffic. Would like to see your results after 20K to each of this highly targeted, high converting traffic.

                                            Comment

                                            • DWB
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 31779
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Socks
                                              If CCBill is so terrible, why is it that many of the world's biggest sites use them exclusively? If I know anything about rich people is that they usually take care of their nickels, so why would Met Art, FTV Girls, X-Art, etc use CCBill as their ONLY biller, if there was even a chance of them losing mountains of money to do so?
                                              Why do sponsors keep offering flv videos instead of mp4 knowing flv doesn't play on all devices?

                                              Why does everyone offer an inferior WMV download video option where there are so many better options?

                                              ANSWER: Habits / Trends

                                                Comment

                                                • SwirlsGirl
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                  • 2067
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by beaner
                                                  That must be some really targeted traffic. Would like to see your results after 20K to each of this highly targeted, high converting traffic.
                                                  Hey Beaner if you think about it....it really does not have to be highly targeted traffic...especially when we have a top affiliate tube site converting for us at 1/37...again thats tube traffic
                                                  Last edited by SwirlsGirl; 04-05-2012, 12:39 PM.

                                                    Comment

                                                    • signupdamnit
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                      • 6697
                                                      #14
                                                      Maybe someone has to cover the chargebacks generated by uploaded.to. Might as well be the losers who own paysites or are affiliates. Your 15% goes to good use - to help put you out of business.


                                                      ....I used to be a big CCbill fan.

                                                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

                                                        Comment

                                                        • SwirlsGirl
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                          • 2067
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                          Maybe someone has to cover the chargebacks generated by uploaded.to. Might as well be the losers who own paysites or are affiliates. Your 15% goes to good use - to help put you out of business.


                                                          ....I used to be a big CCbill fan.
                                                          But signupdamnit.....surely you do understand that increasing your traffic, is the only way to increase your sales....

                                                          Oops I am sorry I forgot Mike Flirt just *proved* that he found a way to increase his sales with the same amount of traffic
                                                          Last edited by SwirlsGirl; 04-05-2012, 02:18 PM.

                                                            Comment

                                                            • raymor
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 3745
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                                                              Hey Mike Flirt, great idea, and thanks for sharing your results...

                                                              just curious to know if I am reading the stats correctly...your stats are telling me that you made 2 1/2 the conversions with verotel then you did with other biller?

                                                              Or in other words if you make $1500.00 with 600 visitors with one biller....that you could very well make $3000.00 with another biller same traffic??

                                                              Is there a problem with my reasoning or assesment here?

                                                              Thanks

                                                              One problem - there's not yet enough data. It's fourteen sales. If one biller did one sale and the other did two at a specific moment in time, does that mean one converts twice as much as the other? No, that just means you looked at a point in time when the first biller had just made it's second sale.


                                                              I just flipped a coin six times. I got five tails and one head. That means nothing. If I flip the coin two hundred times, THEN the results will show that head and tail come up about equally. Fourteen sales doesn't tell you anything.
                                                              For historical display only. This information is not current:
                                                              support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627
                                                              Strongbox - The next generation in site security
                                                              Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control
                                                              Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

                                                                Comment

                                                                • raymor
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 3745
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                  You leave lots of money on the table if CCBill is your only option.

                                                                  This pretty much verifies that.

                                                                  The margin of error on 14 samples is 4, meaning it's likely that in the next 14, CCBill will get eight and Verotel six. Wait until there are 100-300 sales before drawing any conclusions.
                                                                  For historical display only. This information is not current:
                                                                  support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627
                                                                  Strongbox - The next generation in site security
                                                                  Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control
                                                                  Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids

                                                                    Comment

                                                                    • MikeFlirt
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Jul 2010
                                                                      • 42
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by raymor
                                                                      The margin of error on 14 samples is 4, meaning it's likely that in the next 14, CCBill will get eight and Verotel six. Wait until there are 100-300 sales before drawing any conclusions.
                                                                      I totally agree I will let the test run a bit. I will keep you posted with that
                                                                      Mike
                                                                      Content Producer and affiliates manager for
                                                                      http://theartofblowjob.com/


                                                                      Messenger : [email protected] I don't use ICQ

                                                                        Comment

                                                                        • u-Bob
                                                                          there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                          • 33063
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Tip: put Verotel in the cascade and let someone other than Verotel handle the affiliate side of things because unless Verotel actually starts providing the info they are required to provide by law, I'm not touching any Verotel based program with a 10foot pole. For those in the EU it's a VAT disaster waiting to happen.

                                                                            Comment

                                                                            • candyflip
                                                                              Carpe Visio
                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 43069
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by raymor
                                                                              The margin of error on 14 samples is 4, meaning it's likely that in the next 14, CCBill will get eight and Verotel six. Wait until there are 100-300 sales before drawing any conclusions.
                                                                              I'm not drawing any conclusions from his. I've tested things myself.

                                                                              He post is just more verification for me

                                                                              Spend you some brain.
                                                                              Email Me

                                                                                Comment

                                                                                • Jakez
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 5656
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Nice info. I never understood why people won't promote a program ran on Verotel, they always converted just fine for me and never missed a payment over at least 6-7 years.
                                                                                  [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400

                                                                                  Killuminati

                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                    • femdomdestiny
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                                                      • 5185
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      exactly. But there is another problem. I have excel file with all my sponsors. There are many verotel sites but almost all of them don't have promo content or it is years old.
                                                                                      Femdom Destiny


                                                                                      --------------------------------------------
                                                                                      ICQ: 463-630-426
                                                                                      email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                        • The Ghost
                                                                                          IslandDollars.com
                                                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                                                          • 12188
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Keep posting info as you get more data Mike.
                                                                                          ISLAND DOLLARS
                                                                                          1000's of Exclusive TS scenes / Constant Updates
                                                                                          Best TS Network your surfers will ever join

                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                            • u-Bob
                                                                                              there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                              • 33063
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Jakez
                                                                                              Nice info. I never understood why people won't promote a program ran on Verotel, they always converted just fine for me and never missed a payment over at least 6-7 years.
                                                                                              Because Verotel refuses to give their affiliates the VAT info they need. Verotel, by law, has to give out that info, yet they refuse. So as an EU based affiliate you have 3 choices:
                                                                                              - not promote Verotel based programs.
                                                                                              - promote Verotel based programs and pay an extra XX% of your earnings in VAT while you don't have to. Just to be safe
                                                                                              - promote Verotel and risk hefty fines for not paying VAT you didn't have to pay in the first place when you get audited.

                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                • BNMedia
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2009
                                                                                                  • 433
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I've been trying Verotel at the top of my cascade for my sites with decent results, although sales overall haven't been exactly booming with any biller.
                                                                                                  I'm using rules within NATS so that all affiliate referrals will get a CCBill join page but type-in traffic will reach a different cascade. Currently Verotel - CCBill, but I'm soon adding Epoch and SegPay to try in the cascade also.
                                                                                                  ---------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                                  Webmaster of www.kinkykicks.net - Your 1 stop resource for ballbusting and cruel sexual femdom.
                                                                                                  Join our affiliate program at www.cash4kicks.com

                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                    • SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                                      • 2067
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by BNMedia
                                                                                                      I've been trying Verotel at the top of my cascade for my sites with decent results, although sales overall haven't been exactly booming with any biller.
                                                                                                      I'm using rules within NATS so that all affiliate referrals will get a CCBill join page but type-in traffic will reach a different cascade. Currently Verotel - CCBill, but I'm soon adding Epoch and SegPay to try in the cascade also.
                                                                                                      hey BNMedia hate to put you on the spot, but when you say decent results, would that mean "better" results with Verotel?

                                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                                        • porno jew
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                                                          • 10166
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                          Maybe someone has to cover the chargebacks generated by uploaded.to. Might as well be the losers who own paysites or are affiliates. Your 15% goes to good use - to help put you out of business.


                                                                                                          ....I used to be a big CCbill fan.
                                                                                                          lol why would they have any chargebacks? because people aren't happy with getting access to unlimited content for a few dollars a month?

                                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                                            • BNMedia
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Nov 2009
                                                                                                              • 433
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                              hey BNMedia hate to put you on the spot, but when you say decent results, would that mean "better" results with Verotel?
                                                                                                              Today, yes Verotel has been better for us than CCBill was at the top of the cascade a couple of days ago for instance.
                                                                                                              However, I try and not read too much into this. I've tried altering the order of the cascade this week as an experiment and some days one hasn't performed any better than the other.
                                                                                                              By nature of the cascade a decline with one biller should send it to the next biller to convert the sale. However, I do also wonder if the end user who is a regular subscriber puts more trust in one biller than the other.
                                                                                                              I'll keep up my trials and maybe time will tell.
                                                                                                              Last edited by BNMedia; 04-09-2012, 02:58 PM. Reason: Added text.
                                                                                                              ---------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                                              Webmaster of www.kinkykicks.net - Your 1 stop resource for ballbusting and cruel sexual femdom.
                                                                                                              Join our affiliate program at www.cash4kicks.com

                                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                                • SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                  • 2067
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BNMedia
                                                                                                                  Today, yes Verotel has been better for us than CCBill was at the top of the cascade a couple of days ago for instance.
                                                                                                                  However, I try and not read too much into this. I've tried altering the order of the cascade this week as an experiment and some days one hasn't performed any better than the other.
                                                                                                                  By nature of the cascade a decline with one biller should send it to the next biller to convert the sale. However, I do also wonder if the end user who is a regular subscriber puts more trust in one biller than the other.
                                                                                                                  I'll keep up my trials and maybe time will tell.
                                                                                                                  Thanks for the clarity

                                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                                    • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                      • 6697
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                                      lol why would they have any chargebacks? because people aren't happy with getting access to unlimited content for a few dollars a month?
                                                                                                                      Touché...

                                                                                                                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

                                                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                                                        • AmeliaG
                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                          • 10663
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Your mileage may vary, but, as an affiliate, my experience is that Verotel does not pay and has hands-down the least good affiliate support in the business.

                                                                                                                          As raymor said, while the conversion ratio looks nice for both sides of the test so far, obviously the sample is not large enough to be statistically significant yet.
                                                                                                                          GFY Hall of Famer

                                                                                                                          AltStar Hall of Famer



                                                                                                                          Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com

                                                                                                                          Babe photography portfolio

                                                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                                                            • BFT3K
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                              • 10764
                                                                                                                              #32

                                                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                                                • faxxaff
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 2134
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                                                                                  Because Verotel refuses to give their affiliates the VAT info they need. Verotel, by law, has to give out that info, yet they refuse. So as an EU based affiliate you have 3 choices:
                                                                                                                                  - not promote Verotel based programs.
                                                                                                                                  - promote Verotel based programs and pay an extra XX% of your earnings in VAT while you don't have to. Just to be safe
                                                                                                                                  - promote Verotel and risk hefty fines for not paying VAT you didn't have to pay in the first place when you get audited.
                                                                                                                                  EU based Programs have to pay VAT from sales to EU based customers, but not affiliates since VAT is paid already. If you feel they violate tax laws you can inform Dutch revenue service. They will respond to you.
                                                                                                                                  Asian Babes

                                                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                                                    • Markul
                                                                                                                                      Likes Pie
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2007
                                                                                                                                      • 12403
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      So how did the test go with larger volumes?
                                                                                                                                      But.... I pulled out...

                                                                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                                                                        • Mutt
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 34431
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I did a split test between CCBILL and Epoch, well over 300 sales during the test. I fully expected Epoch to convert better BUT the results were literally a dead heat.

                                                                                                                                          That test was enough for me, it put to rest for me the doubts I had about using CCBILL as primary over Epoch.
                                                                                                                                          I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

                                                                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                                                                            • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                              • 6697
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Socks
                                                                                                                                              If CCBill is so terrible, why is it that many of the world's biggest sites use them exclusively? If I know anything about rich people is that they usually take care of their nickels, so why would Met Art, FTV Girls, X-Art, etc use CCBill as their ONLY biller, if there was even a chance of them losing mountains of money to do so?
                                                                                                                                              It's been denied but there is a possibility that high volume customers get preferential treatment as far as scrubbing and declines while low volume customers face increased scrutiny.

                                                                                                                                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

                                                                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                                                                • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                  • 6697
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  I missed the year.

                                                                                                                                                  So how did the split test end and what were the results once conclusive?

                                                                                                                                                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

                                                                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                                                                    • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 8598
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Most successful programs now use a mix of their own merchant accounts as primary and third party processors as secondary or visa versa.

                                                                                                                                                      The more control you have over the scrubbing, payment forms and rebilling methods, the higher the conversions.

                                                                                                                                                      Mitch


                                                                                                                                                      Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                                      CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                                      Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                                      Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

                                                                                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                                                                                        • Sophie Delancey
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                                                          • 1249
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Whoa there, blast from the past. We're still with Verotel after several tests, as it always came out significantly on top.
                                                                                                                                                          Bright Desire - Smart, sensual porn.

                                                                                                                                                          [email protected] Skype - SophieDelancey Twitter - @SophieDelancey ICQ - 602670915

                                                                                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                                                                                            • crnidario
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2012
                                                                                                                                                              • 30
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I’m owner of few free tube sites with daily traffic of 200k unique visits. I want to use that traffic and start my first adult pay site. I did lot on my pay site and now is time to choose payment processor. As this is something new for me I need a little help. I have noticed that many of big sites such as Mofos, Brazzers, …….use 2 and 3 payment processors (Epoch, CCbil, Verotel). Why they do that? I suppose that they got some advantages? What kind advantages? Should I use just one processor or I need to have 2 or more processors.

                                                                                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                                                                                • _Richard_
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                                                                  • 30991
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                                                                                                  Why do sponsors keep offering flv videos instead of mp4 knowing flv doesn't play on all devices?

                                                                                                                                                                  Why does everyone offer an inferior WMV download video option where there are so many better options?

                                                                                                                                                                  ANSWER: Habits / Trends

                                                                                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                                                                                    • Bman
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1679
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      You still seeing the same conversion ratio?
                                                                                                                                                                      Anybody else?
                                                                                                                                                                      ICQ 228211529

                                                                                                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                                                                                                        • icymelon
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2007
                                                                                                                                                                          • 3220
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          is the traffic coming from 2 different sources or do you have a way to alternate each join hit so you are comparing apples to apples and not to oranges.
                                                                                                                                                                          Network Of Adult Blogs With Hardlink Rentals Available

                                                                                                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                                                                                                            • Sophie Delancey
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                                                                              • 1249
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              We stopped with CCBill a while back because we're happy with Verotel. And it was an A/B test, so it was coming from the same source.
                                                                                                                                                                              Bright Desire - Smart, sensual porn.

                                                                                                                                                                              [email protected] Skype - SophieDelancey Twitter - @SophieDelancey ICQ - 602670915

                                                                                                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                                                                                                • SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 2067
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  It's unanimous we did the test and are seeing much better results with verotel processing our membership sales.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Also for the record we removed ccbill as biller for some of our other goods and services and without adding any new traffic or advertising, we saw sales quadruple simply by removing ccbill as biller.

                                                                                                                                                                                  No reason to fabricate this statement and nothing to gain by posting the truth.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                                                                                                    • Bman
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1679
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                                                                                                      It's unanimous we did the test and are seeing much better results with verotel processing our membership sales.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Also for the record we removed ccbill as biller for some of our other goods and services and without adding any new traffic or advertising, we saw sales quadruple simply by removing ccbill as biller.

                                                                                                                                                                                      No reason to fabricate this statement and nothing to gain by posting the truth.
                                                                                                                                                                                      What do you think the reasoning is behind this? Just so much scrubbing from CCBILL? or have you tried anybody else ie Zombaio?

                                                                                                                                                                                      Whats your percentage of traffic coming from Affilates?
                                                                                                                                                                                      ICQ 228211529

                                                                                                                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                                                                                                                        • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 8598
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crnidario
                                                                                                                                                                                          I?m owner of few free tube sites with daily traffic of 200k unique visits. I want to use that traffic and start my first adult pay site. I did lot on my pay site and now is time to choose payment processor. As this is something new for me I need a little help. I have noticed that many of big sites such as Mofos, Brazzers, ??.use 2 and 3 payment processors (Epoch, CCbil, Verotel). Why they do that? I suppose that they got some advantages? What kind advantages? Should I use just one processor or I need to have 2 or more processors.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Actually most big programs (and many smaller ones these days as well) have their own merchant accounts and use third party processors to cascade to if declined by their own merchant account bank.
                                                                                                                                                                                          You don't actually see this many times because when having their own merchant account and using a gateway such as ours the merchant has the option ( and most often does) host their own secure payment form so the customer never has to leave their site and complete customization is possible this way as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Any other questions?

                                                                                                                                                                                          Thank you, Mitch Farber


                                                                                                                                                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                                                                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

                                                                                                                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                                                                                                                            • candyflip
                                                                                                                                                                                              Carpe Visio
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 43069
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by NETbilling
                                                                                                                                                                                              Actually most big programs (and many smaller ones these days as well) have their own merchant accounts and use third party processors to cascade to if declined by their own merchant account bank.
                                                                                                                                                                                              You don't actually see this many times because when having their own merchant account and using a gateway such as ours the merchant has the option ( and most often does) host their own secure payment form so the customer never has to leave their site and complete customization is possible this way as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Any other questions?

                                                                                                                                                                                              Thank you, Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                                                                              As a small site owner, the monthly minimums used to be too much. What are the requirements these days?

                                                                                                                                                                                              Spend you some brain.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Email Me

                                                                                                                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                                                                                                                • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 8598
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by candyflip
                                                                                                                                                                                                  As a small site owner, the monthly minimums used to be too much. What are the requirements these days?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hi,

                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you are located in the US, we can setup start ups. If you are outside of the US, 10k per month.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Would you like more information?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by NETbilling; 05-17-2013, 04:30 PM.


                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mitch Farber
                                                                                                                                                                                                  CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                                                                                                                    • SwirlsGirl
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 2067
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Bman
                                                                                                                                                                                                      What do you think the reasoning is behind this? Just so much scrubbing from CCBILL? or have you tried anybody else ie Zombaio?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Whats your percentage of traffic coming from Affilates?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      We can only speculate what the reason is for the disparity, but I just wanted to confirm what the op of the thread found to be true, and that is that since we stopped using ccbill as primary biller we are seeing much better results and much small intervals between no sales periods

                                                                                                                                                                                                      In fact for one other area of our operations we removed ccbill entirely and the results are spellbinding....

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sales have shot into the stratosphere with no more 0 sales days or 3-4 day sales holes either and all we did was remove ccbill as the biller no extra traffic, no advertising...there I said it...

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Make of the info what you wish not trying to throw anyone under the bus...just stating the facts as they relate to us.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Previous 1 2 template Next
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Working...